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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 01:42 PM
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Bin Laden's will says his children must not join al-Qaida
Edited on Tue May-03-11 01:43 PM by kpete
Source: Guardian UK

Bin Laden's will says his children must not join al-Qaida
Newspaper prints will that says wives should not remarry and states his regret at neglect of children due to 'devotion to jihad'

Ian Black, Middle East editor
guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 3 May 2011 11.57 BST

Osama Bin Laden's last wish, according to a document purported to be his will, was that his wives not remarry after his death and his children not join al-Qaida.

Al-Anbaa, a Kuwaiti newspaper, reported on Tuesday that the will, marked "private and confidential" was dated 14 December 2001, three months after the 9/11 attacks, when US forces were hunting him in Afghanistan.

The four-page document, written on a computer and signed by "your brother Abu Abdullah Osama Muhammad Bin Laden," predicts that he would die by the "treachery" of those around him. Al-Anbaa does not reveal how or when it obtained the will or whether it was able to authenticate it. Al-Majallah, a Saudi-owned Arabic magazine, published a similar document in 2002 but it was dismissed as a fraud by a pro-jihadi website.



Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/03/bin-laden-will-wives-children



WILL:
http://www.alanba.com.kw/AbsoluteNMNEW/templates/international2010.aspx?articleid=192850&zoneid=13
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 01:47 PM
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1. Gee, a true believer...
Just like the rich folks in the USA who won't send their own children to war but will sacrifice those of the poor folks.
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timefortherevolution Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 04:15 PM
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12. great point
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 09:45 AM
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23. Fortunate Son.
Some folks inherit star spangled eyes
Ooh, they send you down to war, Lord
And when you ask them, "How much should we give?"
Ooh, they only answer More! more! more!
John Fogerty
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 01:47 PM
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2. He won't let his wives remarry?
Are they required to abide by that?

Seems unfair/sexist.
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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 03:52 PM
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11. Have you read the Quran?
Yes, I would say it is very unfair & sexist!!
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 06:27 PM
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14. Qur'an doesn't say wives shouldn't remarry nor is it unfair or sexist.
Islamic Law states that woman and men should wait three months to remarry (after death or divorce).

This is likely a forgery, I highly doubt this is a legit document.
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 06:31 PM
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15. Yes, it seems weird in every way.
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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 09:05 AM
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21. DO WHAT? The Quran is "NOT" unfair to women or sexist?
Are you serious? Have you read the Quran? Are you a woman? The Bible is not fair to women either but the Quran is worse!

I never said the Quran said women could not remarry...And you are wrong about the waiting period for widowed women it is not 3months that is for divorced women...It is 4 months & 10 nights for widowed women.

Surah 2:234

If any of you die and leave widows behind, they shall wait concerning themselves four months and ten days: when they have fulfilled their term, there is no blame on you if they dispose of themselves in a just and reasonable manner. And Allah is well acquainted with what ye do.

As far as not sexist or unfair to women...

Surah 4:34

Men have authority over women because God has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because God has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart and beat them. Then if they obey you, take no further action against them. Surely God is high, supreme.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 09:31 AM
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22. I see no issue with either. Depends on interpretation.
Men have responsibilities to protect and care for the women they are with. What more do you want?

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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 05:29 AM
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26. At least you are honest about your support for...
the FALSE idea men are superior to women & if women do not obey their master then they should be beat. What puzzles me is why in the hell would you spend your time on DU if you support such BULLSHIT?

However, I know what is actually going on...You misspoke or ran your mouth about something you clearly did not know anything about & once confronted about your mistake instead of simply admitting you were wrong you doubled down.

SAD!!!
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 07:20 AM
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28. LOL, to you your opinion to me mine.
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WatsonT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 10:31 AM
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25. Let me guess: the Koran is not sexist, but the Bible is?
The koran is sexist of course.

People around here have a major blindspot when it comes to Islam. If this were any other religion people would pile on, but because it's Islam we're supposed to look the other way and pretend none of this stuff is actually part of it.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 08:32 AM
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17. Who would enforce that?
Are these "requests" going to be honored?
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 01:49 PM
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3. I think I'll take this with a grain of salt------who knows,who cares?
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 01:54 PM
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4. I hope it's true.
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cosmicone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 02:04 PM
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5. Who got his favorite rubber duckie? n/t
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 02:56 PM
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6. Yup, just dictating the terms of dispersal of his "property".
Those poor women aren't even seen as having any independence at all. Sickening.

Hope this is just some fake but sounds about right for this misogynistic, despicable human being.
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 03:02 PM
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7. IF authentic, very powerful.
Edited on Tue May-03-11 03:03 PM by Jefferson23
The wish for his wives is not unusual, nor of interest to me. His advice to his son's, very interesting..warning them
about treachery it seems. So it's not worth it for them as a result...hmm.

And this: He ends his will by advising "the mujahideen wherever they are" to suspend "the fight against the Jews and the Crusaders and start to purge your ranks of agents and defeatists."


That's it, purge your ranks and re-group? I'd give a lot to know if this were his only will and that he in fact wrote it.


* on edit for spelling.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 03:15 PM
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9. HITLER: Germany betrayed me. Let them die. All meglomaniacs
go this way.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 03:04 PM
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8. thnks for posting n/t
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 03:32 PM
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10. Who gets the camcorder? nt
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 08:44 AM
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18. LOL!
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 06:12 PM
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13. Pretty funny since he wanted his sons to be suicide bombers. Sociopath.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 08:15 AM
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16. It also reads, no green M&M's at his funeral. nt
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 08:47 AM
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19. "his children not join al-Qaida"
Edited on Wed May-04-11 08:48 AM by originalpckelly
Just like every other leader in the history of the world. It's good enough for other people's sons, but for his own.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 08:49 AM
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20. "Written" on a computer?
"treachery" of those around him

So, he was paranoid about folks around him,despite their amazing loyalty. ($15 million buys a lot.) Good.
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 10:02 AM
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24. With all those rabbits they should join 4H n/t
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Bragi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 06:05 AM
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27. I smell BS /nt
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