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alp227 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 11:49 PM Original message |
Former student accepts deal in Rutgers suicide case |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 11:58 PM Response to Original message |
1. This isn't due to her social status. It's due to the fact that she didn't plan |
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alp227 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 12:08 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. OK thanks for clarifying; I didn't check all the facts about what Ravi/Wei did n/t |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 12:13 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. She's also agreed to testify against Ravi, her former friend. |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 12:30 AM Response to Original message |
4. even if it hadn't resulted in death they should have been kicked out |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 12:37 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. They both left Rutgers, though I've never seen actual evidence reported |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 12:46 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. she described the guy Tyler was with as looking "sketchy" with ragged clothes |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 12:52 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Never heard anything of the sort. Where is that info came from? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 12:54 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Are you suggesting she's guilty because she thought someone looked sketchy? |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 12:57 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. no, i'm saying she knew what Ravi was doing |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 01:38 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. That doesn't prove anything about what she knew about Ravi's plans. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 07:23 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. I wonder how long she let him continue to live stream the video |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 02:10 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. He didn't stream the video with her at all. After the first time, |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 04:46 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. I do not believe that is clear. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 04:50 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. yeah, he did plan to stream the videos and I thought it was pretty clear that was at Molly's |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 04:53 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. If it was streamed at all, it was during the first encounter. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 04:55 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. was Molly at the first one only? How woud it not be planned if he set up the camera? |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 05:02 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. He didn't set up the camera. The camera was on his laptop. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 06:10 PM Response to Reply #22 |
31. by set up I meant pointing it to the target and turning it on, and so he did set it up |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 05:34 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. He planned it, he set up the camera. Molly didn't have anything to do with that. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 06:15 PM Response to Reply #25 |
33. showed her images of him spying on someone- which he had romised to stream on Twitter |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 06:53 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. You're twisting the timeline. Is that on purpose or do you just not understand? |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 07:23 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. So Ravi didn;t set up the camera a second time? Whoa I never heard that.! |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 08:08 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. I didn't say that. I think I read that his roommate discovered it, |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 08:15 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Actually it makes Molly look like she stood by and let it happen again. Maybe thatls why she |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 08:18 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. How? He tweeted about it, the roommate found out about it, |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 05:31 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. It was never streamed. And there was no indication |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 06:13 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. the victims parent referred to Molly's actions as "unlawful" today- what do you think that means?" |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 07:01 PM Response to Reply #32 |
41. I'm not making excuses for Ravi. I support the charges against him. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 08:32 PM Response to Reply #41 |
52. Those are not the "facts." If the images were never streamed, |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 09:00 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. PW was unaware of the reports that images were distributed. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 04:05 AM Response to Reply #54 |
58. Not true. I knew those claims were initially made, |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 03:21 PM Response to Reply #58 |
73. The claims might be disputed by his defense. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 03:59 AM Response to Reply #52 |
57. Could you show me a link to that quote? |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 06:53 AM Response to Reply #57 |
59. no one is saying Molly distributed them, but you already knew that |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 12:59 PM Response to Reply #59 |
67. Ravi is NOT being prosecuted for disseminating images. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 01:15 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. yet the prosecuter said he did share them. So he's being charged w/ lesser crime? |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 03:18 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. No, he isn't being charged with lesser crime. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 03:16 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. Why do you keep saying that? |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 04:22 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. that's what I thought, but I rmember there being speculation about another charge |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 05:29 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. It never got streamed at all -- whatever Ravi had planned. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 06:39 PM Response to Reply #23 |
38. no "webcast" just images and maybe video clips then? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 08:16 PM Response to Reply #38 |
48. No images were broadcast on the internet. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 09:04 PM Response to Reply #48 |
55. It was pretty well established that the victim stopped it, certainly not Molly, LOL. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 05:51 PM Response to Reply #16 |
28. The prosecution initially claimed that, but withdrew that claim. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 06:22 PM Response to Reply #28 |
36. wasn't that ONLY because the victim found out the camera was set up- again? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 06:49 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Could be. But Molly was only involved in the first incident. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 07:16 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. i thought that is the one he disributed images from |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 08:21 PM Response to Reply #43 |
50. She wasn't charged with distributing any images. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 08:30 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. I didn't say she was. I;m saying it looks like she knew he had done it |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 03:55 AM Response to Reply #51 |
56. "It looks like" isn't evidence of anything. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 07:12 AM Response to Reply #56 |
60. I had never seen reports that someone told Tyler, did you? |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 10:29 AM Response to Reply #60 |
65. Tyler actually found out from checking Ravi's tweeter feeds. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 01:19 PM Response to Reply #65 |
70. okay, so she was making that shit up. I know I specualted Molly say the tweets or heard the gossip |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 10:29 AM Response to Reply #56 |
64. Nobody told Tyler. Tyler found out from checking Ravi's tweeter |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 12:58 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. she's crazy to speculate that Molly told Tyler, and dishonest to minimize the second attempt by |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 06:29 PM Response to Reply #28 |
37. Im not interested in what Molly;s lawyer says, but thanks! |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 04:53 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. It seems they (he?) planned on streaming from Molly's place. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 05:39 PM Response to Reply #19 |
26. The police say it wasn't streamed. Isn't that good enough for you? |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 06:20 PM Response to Reply #26 |
35. very private images did get out on the internet, and Molly was among those who knew where they came |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 07:04 PM Response to Reply #35 |
42. Show me a link that proves that. I've never seen that stated anywhere. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 09:43 AM Response to Reply #42 |
63. here: |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 08:33 PM Response to Reply #26 |
53. That's not what prosecution says. |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 04:15 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. it's interesting of all the things that have been said |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 04:58 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. sounds like she participated -or her lawyers would be all over the news |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 05:58 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. She's pleaded not guilty. But, in any case, the only thing |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 05:44 PM Response to Reply #14 |
27. There was never any indication that she was involved with the planning. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 06:18 PM Response to Reply #27 |
34. she wondered what he was doing LOL, you mean Ravi didn;t tell her like he did all of Rutgers? HA. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 08:12 PM Response to Reply #34 |
46. Why do you keep distorting the timeline? He didn't tweet about it |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 07:15 AM Response to Reply #46 |
61. I think you need to get up to speed with this. Sorry, you missed quite a bit of reporting. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 08:56 AM Response to Reply #5 |
62. That's Called "Accessory" IIRC |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 07:47 AM Response to Original message |
12. It's a plea to testify against Ravi. She'll be able to testify as to what he said, |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 04:43 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Considering prosecutors recently brought additional charges |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 05:59 PM Response to Reply #15 |
30. I doubt that, too. n/t |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 01:18 PM Response to Reply #15 |
69. They might--if only to avoid appeals that might not work out in their |
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