Tenet NEVER spoke to GWB in the entire month of August of 2001

[Bozita]

listening to him live online

[BeyondGeography]

1. And Dumbo-Yah never asked to talk to him

[damnraddem]

27. Oh, but Dubya assured us last night that ...

he regularly asked by be briefed by Tenet on terraism.

[nolabels]

42. Damn, can't even get the lies going the same way anymore

No wonder that worm squirmed so badly this morning.

To think the guy is charge of the CIA, them guys at the company must be ashamed. They can't even get a good liar to be the figure head of the place. :nopity:

[indie_voter]

2. Wasn't GWB on vacation that month? Did Tenet talk with Cheney? n/t

[pschoeb]

18. Cheney on vacation as well, in Wyoming

"Vice President Dick Cheney took time off from his month-long working vacation Monday to outline his plans for August in Jackson Hole and to reflect on "an amazing year."

Cheney, who will live at his Teton Pines home about six miles west of Jackson until Labor Day, defended his energy policy, supported a local decision to limit drilling around the Gros Ventre Wilderness, recalled a life of service in Washington and said his health problems are not affecting his ability to fish for trout on his favorite Western waters."



http://www.jacksonholenews.com/Archives/NewsArchive/2001/010815-News.html

[justjones]

22. Then who was running the country? n/t

:shrug:

[0007]

35. If this is a pop quiz, I'd say probably Ralph Reed & Condi

[AlCzervik]

3. Didnt *

say that he talked to Tenet everyday? Was that only on "Work" days and not vacation days?

[PsN2Wind]

8. How can you expect

someone that has already put in a grueling 7 months to relax if he's constantly having to think about running the entire country.

Don't want to have to edit, so change running to ruining.

[Blaze Diem]

9. If not Tenet, then WHO briefed Bush while he was at the ranch in August?

Who did Tenet give this info to, & to what urgency did that person inform vacationing George?
Was it Condi's job?

Should be interesting how Bush responds to this same question when he is asked. Maybe Cheney will just answer it for him...

Who's lying?

[Media_Lies_Daily]

20. OSP was filtering the intel information and was briefing Junior.

[snippy]

11. Yes, everyday. This could mean Bush lied. Hard to believe.

Bush is the most compulsive and incessant liar in the history of American politics.


Bush claims that John McCain has an illegitimate Negro daughter and the yawning boy was not there and was not yawning and besides he was standing some place else and Richard Clarke had complete access to Bush and Rice which proves that Clarke was out of the loop which is Clinton's fault which means that unnamed White House sources may be identified whenever Bush wishes even though everyone except Bush himself knows where he was during his Alabama National Guard service which was after he volunteered to go to Viet Nam but before he was no longer required to take a flight physical and about the same time that God ordered Bush to smite Saddam which is Clinton's fault because the 60 lines of embryonic stem cells amd more arsenic in the water and more mercury in the air prove that republican science is better than sound science but the Bush administration did not illegally conspire to illegally reveal the identity of a covert CIA operative which resulted in 2,000,000 new jobs being created because democrats support terrorism and are not good Americans just as the Jews were not good Germans and the White House is cooperating with the 9/11 commission which is why the White House withheld documents and called the republicans on the commission before Clarke testified since the dental xrays prove that Bush spoke with the CIA director everyday and did not ignore either the repeated warnings of the dangers of al Qaeda and Osama or the August 2001 intelligence briefing specifically warning of the upcoming 9/11 attacks because the United States is a nation with a mission and that mission is to bring freedom to every single person in the world which will cut the deficit in half if you do not count those parts of the deficit which will increase under Bush which is Clinton's fault but the boxes from China were labeled "Made in USA" which resulted in 2,600,000 new jobs being created even though the $400 billion decorative medicare turkey was not labeled $550 billion and was passed without bribery or criminal deception which proves that government spending under Bush has gone down if you do not count the increased government spending under Bush which is Clinton's fault and Bush's plane to Baghdad was spotted because before Saddam bought the uranium and became an urgent but not an imminent threat which is Clinton's fault Bush had no plans on his desk to invade Iraq since the invasion was not planned before Bush took office even though it was the subject of Bush's first national security council meeting and the aircraft carrier was too far offshore for the Navy to make a large enough "Mission Accomplished" banner to describe the WMD we have found in Iraq some of which Saddam was giving to Osama for following Saddam's plans and using Iraqi hijackers on 9/11 which is Clinton's fault but everyone who pays income taxes got a tax cut which created 3,000,000 new jobs and allowed Iraqi oil revenue to pay for the cost of the reconstruction of Iraq after the invasion by a small number of troops who would be greeted with floral program related activities except for the dead and wounded troops who are being brought home secretly which is Clinton's fault since Bush is the one who hugs the mothers and the widows and the wives and the kids and that is why Bush who will use the jawbone of an ass to force OPEC to open the spigots and who is responsible for good economic numbers but not bad economic numbers which is Clinton's fault wrote the poem that he did not write blaming Laura for dropping the dog.

There is no subject so somber, serious, or shallow that Bush will not lie about it. The only other option is not to lie. And that apparently is something Bush can not do.

FIRE THE LIAR

[louis-t]

41. Hey, this is my kind of rant!

good job, but you forgot the moon and mars!

[pmbryant]

14. "The way my administration worked was that I met with Tenet all the time."

Straight from the transcript: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/14/politics/14BTEX.html?pagewanted=all&position=

(emphasis is mine)

As a matter of fact, I was dealing with terrorism a lot as the president when George Tenet came in to brief me. I mean that's where I got my information. I changed the way, the relationship, between the president and the C.I.A. director. And I wanted Tenet in the Oval Office all the time. And we had briefings about terrorist threats. This was a summary.

Now in the, what's called the P.D.B. there was a warning about bin Laden's desires on America. Frankly, I didn't think that was anything new. I mean major newspapers had talked about bin Laden's desires on hurting America. What was interesting in there was that there was a report that the F.B.I. was conducting field investigations. And that was good news that they were doing their job.

The way my administration worked was that I met with Tenet all the time. I obviously met with my principals a lot. We talked about threats that emerged. We had a counterterrorism group meeting on a regular basis to analyze the threats that came in. Had there been a threat that required action by anybody in the government, I would have dealt with it. In other words, had they come up and said this is where we see something happening, you can rest assured that the people of this government would have responded and responded in a forceful way.

[Bozita]

15. Great find! ... It's official ... the sumbitch is a LIAR

thanks

[F.Gordon]

23. I'm starting to believe the fuckhead* never read.....

...the August 6th thingee. You point out a "quiet" quote...

What was interesting in there was that there was a report that the F.B.I. was conducting field investigations. And that was good news that they were doing their job.

He is not wording his response in the past tense. He's wording it in the present tense. As though he just read it.....

Just my 1.34 cents worth

[enough]

25. Exellent find -- thank you. (NT)

[louis-t]

43. Anytime * talks about newspaper articles, remember:

he doesn't read newspapers.

[ohiosmith]

4. What's the web address please?

[Bozita]

12. here...

http://www.2600.com/offthehook/hot2.ram

[ohiosmith]

13. Thanks

[Rufus T. Firefly]

5. But last night, when asked about the 8/6 PDB, he said

"I was dealing with terrorism a lot as the President when George Tenet came in to brief me." He also said "...I met with Tenet all the time..."

Good thing press conferences aren't under oath.

[AlCzervik]

7. I guess it depends

on you define "Time"

[bushisanidiot]

6. Everyone and their grandma knows pres. DIPSHIT took the entire month of

august off. it was unprecedented!! what kind of word game is tenet playing?? does he think we're as stoooopid as dumbya??

[The Backlash Cometh]

10. Condi claims that they weren't in office long enough to do anything, so

why did Bush take a month long vacation in the seventh month?

[lostnfound]

34. Great point.

It was amazing that Tenet admitted he didn't talk to Bush that entire month.

Hey, aren't we -- the American citizenry -- "the boss"? We need to write in the job description, 'no more than 2 weeks vacation during first year on the job'...or less, like most working stiffs.

[grasswire]

16. condi wasn't at the ranch in early august

There's testimony from her about meeting with him via teleconferencing (she couldn't exactly remember when or how).

So who delivered his daily briefings then?

[DoYouEverWonder]

21. If they were teleconferencing does that mean

there's video tape of these meetings or recordings?

Sure would clear up a lot of questions and doubts?

[joeunderdog]

32. dupe--double pumped

http://www.takebackthemedia.com/true911.html

[joeunderdog]

33. Here's my favorite movie about it...

http://www.takebackthemedia.com/true911.html

[teryang]

17. Like two conspirators to first degree murder

...they never talked while the operative facts were being executed.

[jeanmarc]

19. That blows apart Bush's first defense last night

"And of course that concerns me. All those reports concern me. As a matter of fact, I was dealing with terrorism a lot as the president when George Tenet came in to brief me. I mean, that's where I got my information.

I changed the way that the relationship between the president and the CIA director. And I wanted Tenet in the Oval Office all the time. And we had briefings about terrorist threats. This was a summary.

Now, in the -- what's called the PDB, there was a warning about bin Laden's desires on America. But, frankly, I didn't think there was anything new. I mean, major newspapers had talked about bin Laden's desires on hurting America.

What was interesting in there was that there was a report that the FBI was conducting field investigations. And that was good news, that they were doing their job.

The way my administration worked, Ed, was that I met with Tenet all the time. I obviously met with my principals a lot. We talked about threats that had emerged. We have a counterterrorism group meeting on a regular basis to analyze the threats that came in. Had there been a threat that required action by anybody in the government, I would have dealt with it."

Yet you did not meet with him or even speak to him during your 'working' vacation? Couldn't fit it into your busy fishing and clearing brush schedule?

The reporters question that Bush's above misleading answer was:

"QUESTION: You've mentioned it at Fort Hood on Sunday. You pointed out that it did not warn of a hijacking of airplanes to crash into buildings, but that it warned of hijacking to obviously take hostages and to secure the release of extremists that are being held by the U.S.

Did that trigger some specific actions on your part in the administration, since it dealt with potentially hundreds of lives and a blackmail attempt on the United States government? "

You can delegate authority, but you cannot delegate responsibility, you dumb son of a bitch!

[enough]

26. And that last question he absolutely DID NOT EVEN BEGIN to answer. (NT)

[skypilot]

24. Wasn't it Tenet who...

...gave Bush the infamous Aug.6th PDB?

[MidwestTransplant]

28. No, it was a CIA briefer

Bush was in TX then.

[wabeewoman]

29. The most astonishing thing about this

is how utterly passive this whole administration is. Condi said noone told her to do whatever, bush says well if anyone had told me someone was going to fly into buildings, bush says if the general asks we'll give him more troops. Why the hell are they all so passive??? They seem to be sitting back waiting for someone else to do it. That is no way to run a country.

[WhereIsMyFreedom]

36. This is exactly the message that is getting lost

People are questioning whether Bush was dealing with Terrorism before 9/11 and his response is that he was getting regular updates from Tenet, he knew what was going on, etc, etc... He's not answering the question. If he knew everything that he's claiming he knew, then what was he doing about it? Nothing! I've never heard him claim that he DID anything about any of it. The "FBI was investigating it", so he didn't do anything. He didn't pressure the FBI, the CIA, Condi, Ashcroft, Immigration, Secret Service, local police, airlines to do anything about it. He just sat on all of that information waiting for someone to tell him what to do.

Tenet briefed him every day. Sure, then what the F did he do about it? That's the question to ask, not debate whether Tenet briefed him.

PS. I'm not saying this debate is wrong, I just wish the focus would switch to this other aspect.

[leftchick]

39. ex-cia guy on MSRNC just brought it up!

It was beautiful, Larry Johnson, ex-CIA and former repuke bush* voter laid it all out! He said after seeing a PDB like that and knowing the pResident was so UNCURIOUS as to not ask ONE follow-up question about it was scary and irresponsible!

[RoadRunner]

30. This is what what was on Bush*'s "mind" in August 01

"Bush did mention Rice at the session -- but only to say that she and White House counselor Karen Hughes had "briefed" him on the Chandra Levy matter after the two aides watched then-Rep. Gary A. Condit's television interview about the missing intern. "

the "session" is the 8/24/01 briefing.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A2676-2004Apr10
scroll down

[Bozita]

31. UPI and the Moonie Washington Times are the first to carry this story

here it is:

http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040414-110312-5542r.htm


Tenet did not see Bush in Aug. 2001


WASHINGTON, April 14 (UPI) -- CIA Director George Tenet told the Sept. 11 commission he did not see President Bush once in August 2001, the month before the massive terror attacks.

"In this time period I'm not talking to him, no," Tenet said in response to questions from Commissioner Tim Roemer.

Tenet said he did not pass along information he received about Zacarias Moussaoui, who was attending flight school in Minnesota to the president or his staff.

more...

[Chomskyite]

37. I think it's time for Kerry to do some talking about this.

There're just too many places where things Bush says do not jibe with what 9/11 commission witnesses have said. And if Bush can't be trusted to do what he's supposed to do--proactively--to make sure the agencies are doing their jobs, that's the ballgame as far as many voters are concerned.

Kerry get out there! Talk about these inconsistencies. They mean everything.

[goforit]

45. Kerry is part of the Bush plan...........Why would he bother.

It is so frustrating!!!!

Hope the people wake up soon!!!

[yardwork]

38. It sounds to me like it's possible that * was drying out in August.

It sounds like his handlers removed him from Washington to sober him up, or whatever it took to get him "normal" again.

Nobody bothered to talk to * during August 2001 because * wasn't sober or well enough to talk. It would have been pointless.

In the absence of * Cheney was running the country.

Shrub feels guilty every time the issue of 9/11 comes up because it reminds him of his first major drunken bout as president.

This is just a theory, but one I haven't seen discussed much. We know that other presidents have had severe health problems that impeded their ability to govern. We know that these problems were hidden at the time, with the complicity of the press.

It is clear to me that * is totally incompetent and very possibly brain-damaged. So who was in charge in August and September 2001?

[DoYouEverWonder]

40. So is the WH lying or is Tenet lying?

Here is the WH statement from on March 21, 2004


White House Rebuttal to Clarke Interview

Monday, March 22, 2004; 10:28 AM

THE WHITE HOUSE

Office of the Press Secretary

<snip>

The Facts:

· In addition, unlike President Clinton, President Bush met every morning with his Director of Central Intelligence, George Tenet, for an intelligence briefing. Secretary Card, Dr. Rice, and the Vice President sat in on the briefings. The threat posed by al Qaeda and the need for a response was discussed regularly at these high-level meetings, as well as in frequent, regular discussions between Dr. Rice and Tenet.

[goforit]

44. Tenent is as bad as O'Niel.....just doesn't know who's side to be on.

Hmmmmm........

If only we had our checks and balances again.

:argh:

[leftchick]

46. I would bet on the proven liars...

they have not done anything but lie since stealing the WH.

[Cronus Protagonist]

47. He was idle all the time. He's the country's first American Idle Winner