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kpete (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 01:03 PM Original message |
Richard Trumka Threatens To Abandon Democrats In 2012 Unless They Fight Harder For Labor |
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UrbScotty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
1. Enjoy President Pawlenty (nt) |
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atreides1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 01:14 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Like things are so different now! |
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nobodyspecial (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 01:42 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. Look at Wisconsin and Florida |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 02:34 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. the D's are pulling the same shit in |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 04:01 AM Response to Reply #19 |
107. Local Boston media have been pointing out a very odd phenomenon. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 10:19 AM Response to Reply #107 |
191. It's also an "odd phenomenon" .... |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 06:13 PM Response to Reply #12 |
46. agreed. Now it is the RIGHT THING to do to push Dems to the left. It is the only thing to do. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 04:16 AM Response to Reply #46 |
109. Could not agree more, but HOW do we do that? |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 10:47 AM Response to Reply #109 |
210. the union's stance is terrific. I was supporting it. |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 07:32 AM Response to Reply #46 |
146. Absolutely! NOW is the time to push - they're marching farther right at every opportunity |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 09:02 AM Response to Reply #146 |
170. If by "inundate," you mean calls, letters, emails and online petitions, they don't respond to |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 10:22 AM Response to Reply #170 |
192. It's going to take Americans understanding we are all LABOR -- |
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comtec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 12:37 PM Response to Reply #192 |
237. We need a LABOR party |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 10:36 AM Response to Reply #170 |
201. Yes, we did all those things, but also said "but we'll support you no matter what" |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 10:47 AM Response to Reply #201 |
211. bingo! |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 08:13 PM Response to Reply #12 |
55. For labor to say it will back the Dems no matter what is for labor to give up |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 04:28 AM Response to Reply #55 |
110. Anyone who says "no matter what" has not only given up, but has become part of the problem. |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 10:46 AM Response to Reply #110 |
209. Indeed... |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 07:20 AM Response to Reply #55 |
140. I agree....They've been taking labor for granted for ages. n/t |
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 08:40 AM Response to Reply #140 |
165. "Where else can they go" |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 10:26 AM Response to Reply #165 |
193. It's been the overall perspective of the Dem Party for decades .... |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 11:06 AM Response to Reply #165 |
225. They may not have to "go" anywhere in terms of donating money |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 10:37 AM Response to Reply #165 |
292. According to his nephew, Nader tried to shake up the Dems in 2000 |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 07:24 AM Response to Reply #55 |
143. We'd be lucky to hane things back like Clinton's term. Jobs & a balanced budget with |
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bulloney (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 08:30 AM Response to Reply #143 |
162. Clinton also threw labor under the bus by pushing for passage of NAFTA and WTO. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 09:09 AM Response to Reply #143 |
173. Clinton set the table for a lot of the problems we're having today. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 10:33 AM Response to Reply #173 |
198. Correct -- people have to understand that Nixon was to the left of Obama... but Nixon... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 10:31 AM Response to Reply #143 |
195. Clinton engaged in a huge attack on 60 years of Welfare Guarantees ... |
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lark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 12:32 PM Response to Reply #55 |
235. Sorry, BO is much worse than Clinton |
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Blacksheep214 (682 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 11:49 PM Response to Reply #12 |
86. Nicely said! nt |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 04:12 AM Response to Reply #12 |
108. The critical issue is: How do we stop the ever rightward drift? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 10:37 AM Response to Reply #108 |
203. Liberals are a huge voting bloc -- |
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Beartracks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 01:09 PM Response to Reply #12 |
245. +1 to you!! |
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pnorman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 03:35 AM Response to Reply #4 |
106. "There's Not A Dime's Worth Of Difference Between....." |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 05:17 AM Response to Reply #106 |
117. No one but you used those words. |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 07:16 AM Response to Reply #106 |
139. No there isn't a dimes worth. There is a hundred+++ dollars worth. |
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lark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 12:38 PM Response to Reply #139 |
238. What would be different, really? |
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kjackson227 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 01:07 PM Response to Reply #238 |
244. We have to fight WITHIN this party to bring about the change... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 10:37 AM Response to Reply #106 |
204. Whatever the differences, they are fading fast -- |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 02:15 PM Response to Reply #4 |
269. Then you have nothing to worry about. n/t |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 01:17 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. gosh! He might even keep extending the Patriot Act! Oh. Wait... |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 05:04 PM Response to Reply #1 |
38. maybe the fucking dems should do something rather than hold us hostage.. |
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Terry_M (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 06:09 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. Crude, but exactly how I feel. |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 06:35 PM Response to Reply #38 |
47. Amen, Brother. And a K & R - I just wish Brother Trumka had been |
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Hardrada (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 12:54 AM Response to Reply #47 |
97. We only were in political activities last year because we had a |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 01:37 AM Response to Reply #47 |
101. +1 |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 04:35 AM Response to Reply #47 |
111. As of 2008, unions were still the single largest donor group for Democrats. |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 07:33 AM Response to Reply #111 |
149. But all those angry and dissatisfied Dems stayed home in 2010 |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 10:04 AM Response to Reply #149 |
184. Exactly. "intelligent people learn from their mistakes..." |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 01:12 PM Response to Reply #184 |
246. Thanks, you just made my point. Unions elect our president and if they stay home |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 01:58 PM Response to Reply #246 |
263. Everyone should listen to their auntie! Well said!!!!!! n/t |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 04:20 PM Response to Reply #246 |
276. So remind me how much "change" unions got for "electing our President?" |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 06:28 PM Response to Reply #276 |
280. Dude, stop supporting Obama and Democrats by all means. You just made life easy for me. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 10:08 AM Response to Reply #149 |
186. If that's true, then we'd stop voting for "the lesser evil" -- in fact, |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 09:18 AM Response to Reply #111 |
175. You think unions can compete with 1.4 million per day? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 10:04 AM Response to Reply #111 |
185. Unions give 1 penny for every $1 corporations give -- |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 04:53 AM Response to Reply #47 |
113. "Unitl leadership stands up for working families & puts screws to members to do the same" |
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ccinamon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 08:14 AM Response to Reply #113 |
159. Here in Texas a majority of the union membership votes |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 10:09 AM Response to Reply #159 |
187. How long does it take Texans to figure out who's eating their lunch? |
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Autumn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 08:06 PM Response to Reply #38 |
53. Can I just say |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 04:42 AM Response to Reply #38 |
112. Dems should do something--How about maybe, you know, change? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 10:13 AM Response to Reply #112 |
189. Democrats unfortunately have been growing more silent over decades .... |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 07:16 AM Response to Reply #38 |
138. A campaign based on "yeah we suck, but the other guy is way worse" |
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ccinamon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 08:11 AM Response to Reply #38 |
157. +1... |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 09:50 AM Response to Reply #38 |
181. +1 |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 10:40 AM Response to Reply #38 |
205. We voters do not have leverage over the Democrats -- that's obvious .... |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 02:18 PM Response to Reply #38 |
272. Go ahead. While Unions are trying to hurt the Dems they are digging their own graves... |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 06:11 PM Response to Reply #272 |
278. Get informed on the Democratic collusion with GOP to destroy unions and working families |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 06:24 PM Response to Reply #278 |
279. You can try to deny reality all you want. It's over for Unions if Obama goes in 2012 and possibly if |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 07:29 PM Response to Reply #279 |
281. Learn the difference between a Democrat and a "conservadem/DLCer" only one is on your side |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 10:10 AM Response to Reply #281 |
289. You can keep trying to spin that crap. The point remains. Unions are dead men walking if they stop |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 10:29 AM Response to Reply #289 |
291. We had a super-majority in congress and the Prez and Unions were still attacked |
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iwishiwas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 03:56 PM Response to Reply #278 |
300. I sincerely second the e-motion. |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 12:25 AM Response to Reply #272 |
284. yet here you are, defending the democratic party.. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 10:13 AM Response to Reply #284 |
290. Like Unions? Like women? Like the GLBT community? You are wrong AGAIN. n/t |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 12:14 PM Response to Reply #290 |
294. unions?! you're fucking shitting me, right? |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 08:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
54. Bullshit |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 04:56 AM Response to Reply #54 |
114. +1 |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 07:22 AM Response to Reply #54 |
141. Well said! If politicians will not fight for us then we will close our wallets to them |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 10:43 AM Response to Reply #141 |
206. We have to do more than that -- |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 11:43 AM Response to Reply #141 |
231. I agree with this but we do have a major hurdle now: Citizen's United |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 12:54 PM Response to Reply #141 |
243. We did that in 2010...Look what that got us! Loss of congress and many governers. |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 12:27 PM Response to Reply #243 |
295. Did we live through the same 2010??? Cause mine didn't make any demands of politicians |
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TxVietVet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 07:34 AM Response to Reply #54 |
150. I'm with you on that. |
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dotymed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 08:00 AM Response to Reply #54 |
156. I hate to be a pessimist. |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 09:02 AM Response to Reply #156 |
169. +1000! nt |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 10:59 AM Response to Reply #156 |
220. "Bipartisanship is another way of saying one party rule" -- |
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dotymed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 12:52 PM Response to Reply #220 |
242. Man, |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 10:46 AM Response to Reply #54 |
207. Liberals are a huge voting bloc -- but unorganized -- |
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fredamae (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 11:25 AM Response to Reply #54 |
230. I agree! I am giving to |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 07:38 PM Response to Reply #230 |
283. +1000 - My thoughts exactly -- I'm donating based on voting record not pretty speeches |
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MNBrewer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 08:21 PM Response to Reply #1 |
61. So you're saying that Democrats will continue to abandon labor and the working class? |
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TxVietVet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 07:35 AM Response to Reply #61 |
152. Yeah, sure, you betcha. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 10:48 AM Response to Reply #61 |
212. Duh? Have you been totally unaware of what Obama/Duncan have been doing to teachers? |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 09:21 PM Response to Reply #1 |
70. My goodness! |
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AllTooEasy (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 11:55 PM Response to Reply #70 |
88. Predicatable response, but True; enjoy President Dirtbag Repuke in 2012 |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 01:34 AM Response to Reply #88 |
100. Actually, |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 01:39 AM Response to Reply #88 |
102. ok |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 10:50 AM Response to Reply #88 |
213. Actually, I'd like to be enjoying a Dem President Sen. Bernie Sanders in 2012 ... |
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SoapBox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 09:33 PM Response to Reply #1 |
72. Oh ya... |
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AllTooEasy (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 12:15 AM Response to Reply #1 |
91. SCREW UNIONS if they are stupid enough to support Repukes; |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 05:11 AM Response to Reply #91 |
115. Replacing incumbents is not easy. Party policy is to support incumbents and incumbents have a |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 07:33 AM Response to Reply #91 |
148. No union should support repukes, but why should they give money to Dems |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 10:51 AM Response to Reply #91 |
215. Maybe they'll support Sen. Bernie Sanders for president in 2012 ... he can run on Dem ticket!! |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 10:59 AM Response to Reply #215 |
219. Woah!!!! |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 10:55 AM Response to Reply #91 |
218. It seems you've missed the entire point which was . . . |
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dotymed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 06:45 AM Response to Reply #91 |
287. I used to believe the same way. I still have |
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Sherman A1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 02:51 AM Response to Reply #1 |
104. Yeah, right.... |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 10:10 AM Response to Reply #1 |
188. I don't believe that is the issue. |
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booley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 12:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
239. Really getting sick of this false dichotomy |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 01:41 PM Response to Reply #239 |
256. Same logic as "pink pony" ... if you want to move left, then you're going right--!! |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
2. Good. As a union member, I support this utterly. |
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cyberpj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 01:30 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Ditto. But it should have come a decade or two earlier. I'm afraid corporate support trumps union |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 01:33 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. I agree that we have gone on to long hoping that throwing money and volunteers will somehow |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 02:50 PM Response to Reply #10 |
21. 'moral weight', gimme a break... |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 02:52 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Oh, there is definitely moral weight in showing people that withholding our labor is the right thing |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 05:15 AM Response to Reply #23 |
116. The strike and the vote. |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 09:06 AM Response to Reply #116 |
171. The vote? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 10:52 AM Response to Reply #21 |
216. Exactly ... but has to be done in a measured way -- showing and growing strength as it goes ... |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 03:08 PM Response to Reply #10 |
28. Are you old enough to remember the way unions abandoned Carter |
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hulka38 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 07:52 PM Response to Reply #28 |
49. To that extent Carter shares a large part of the blame |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 08:06 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. Yes, I agree but what I am trying to say is that there are a great many |
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sulphurdunn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 08:31 PM Response to Reply #52 |
62. If things need go to all the way |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 09:04 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. It is my children, grandchildren and great grandchildren that I am |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 05:21 AM Response to Reply #66 |
118. There is no "holding the line" as long as we allow Dems to move right. See Reply 108. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 10:46 AM Response to Reply #66 |
208. Show me who is "holding the line", |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 11:03 AM Response to Reply #208 |
223. Obama's 2 new trade agreements -- Korea and Colombia ... and little discussion here ... |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 12:16 AM Response to Reply #62 |
93. How many families are you willing to throw down that rabbit hole? |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 05:24 AM Response to Reply #93 |
119. Probably as many as others insist on throwing down the rabbit hole of "lesser of two evils.' |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 07:06 AM Response to Reply #119 |
136. I'm sorry but if I'm forced to choose between two evils |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 07:35 AM Response to Reply #136 |
151. Thing is, no one is forcing you to choose between two evils. |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 07:49 AM Response to Reply #151 |
154. Fine. I'll throw my vote away on a third party. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 11:05 AM Response to Reply #93 |
224. It's elites/corporations who are in control of the downward spiral -- and their $$ buys it .... |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 09:38 PM Response to Reply #28 |
73. Wow. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 05:27 AM Response to Reply #73 |
120. +1 |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 12:28 AM Response to Reply #28 |
96. Remember "ABC" ... "Anybody but Carter" -- Everyone abandoned Carter ... |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 07:58 AM Response to Reply #28 |
155. You certainly said that bettter than I could. Agreed 100%. |
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ccinamon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 08:32 AM Response to Reply #28 |
163. Very well put jwirr! |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 09:28 PM Response to Reply #10 |
71. hmm... |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 05:38 AM Response to Reply #71 |
122. Corporatists succeed by sowing division and also by converting as many workers |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 12:24 AM Response to Reply #10 |
94. How do you "educate" a corporate elected official of the importance of unions? |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 08:14 AM Response to Reply #94 |
158. That's what unions have been trying to do for the past 30 years and it's gotten them nowhere. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 12:15 AM Response to Reply #9 |
92. Agree -- Look at what Obama and Duncan and Rahm have been doing re teachers ... |
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Sherman A1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 02:50 AM Response to Reply #2 |
103. Agreed & Well Said |
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Cal Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
3. "what workers want is an independent labor movement" |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 10:01 AM Response to Reply #3 |
183. Agree -- |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
5. Republicans *won't* embrace parts of the agenda the corporate Dems are likewise abandoning... |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
7. why would unions support Democrats? |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 05:49 AM Response to Reply #7 |
124. At some point, people and principles have to trump party, or we're all doomed to |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
8. Deleted message |
hay rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 01:57 PM Response to Reply #8 |
17. "Where else are you going to go?" |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 05:07 PM Response to Reply #17 |
39. i've been saying all along that 8 years of bush wasn't enough to wake these dumbnuts up.. |
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hay rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 05:35 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Sadly, agree. |
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AllTooEasy (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 11:49 PM Response to Reply #17 |
87. If Obama goes down in 2012; Unions will be permanently and completely destroyed |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 05:44 AM Response to Reply #87 |
123. I'd like to stop asshole politicians from getting elected, period. |
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hay rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 08:53 AM Response to Reply #87 |
166. If Obama is re-elected, the decline will only continue. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 01:51 PM Response to Reply #87 |
261. Everytime Dems "win" they move further to the right ... and when they lose ... |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 05:35 AM Response to Reply #17 |
121. There is always the danger that an Obama loss would be spun the same way |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 01:56 PM Response to Reply #121 |
262. Exactly ... when Dems win, we lose ... when Dems lose, we lose ...!! |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 02:54 PM Response to Reply #8 |
24. I hope you emailed him with this idea. It's a good one. n/t |
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MidwestTransplant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
11. Sure and bring Wisconsin to the nation. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 06:07 AM Response to Reply #11 |
127. Please see Reply 19. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 01:40 PM Response to Reply #11 |
255. Amazing that people don't see this. n/t |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
13. "Who the &$*# else 'ya gonna vote for, chumps?" |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
14. Sam Stein does a little editorializing there |
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CBHagman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 11:22 PM Response to Reply #14 |
84. Thank you for pointing that out. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 06:05 AM Response to Reply #14 |
126. Good catch. He never praised either Party. Blind support of any Party is not the answer. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
15. Republicans are thrilled to hear it. Good luck under Republican rule, union workers! |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 02:57 PM Response to Reply #15 |
25. Sure thing, look Duncan's support of teachers unions.... |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 03:39 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. IS Duncan running for office? Does Trumka mention Duncan? |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 04:23 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. So it is just a few whiners who oppose this 'charter' scam? |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 04:57 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Again, is Duncan running for office? Did Trumka mention Duncan? Your red herring is lame. |
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kelly1mm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 09:06 PM Response to Reply #37 |
67. Are you serious? My wife is a teacher and USED to support this administration. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 10:00 AM Response to Reply #67 |
182. Lots of teachers USED TO support the president |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 09:50 PM Response to Reply #37 |
74. Deleted message |
Nay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 09:37 AM Response to Reply #74 |
179. Thank you, chervilant. At age 60, I also am glad I'm in my twilight years. I |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 06:33 AM Response to Reply #37 |
129. The guy who put Duncan in charge of national education policy is running. |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 10:32 AM Response to Reply #37 |
197. Are you serious. Look who appointed him along with the Wall Street insiders. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 01:27 PM Response to Reply #37 |
249. I know lame. |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 08:14 PM Response to Reply #30 |
56. So who appointed Duncan and continues to support him? |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 01:25 PM Response to Reply #30 |
248. Why is Duncan Secretary of Education? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 02:01 PM Response to Reply #248 |
264. Same "Fox in charge of chicken coop" game-playing GOP has been giving us ... |
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mountainlion55 (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 05:56 PM Response to Reply #15 |
42. Organized labor is the last best hope for a decent middle class |
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BIGFOOTSDADDY333 (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 08:16 PM Response to Reply #42 |
59. thank you. cwa4340 here.nt |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 05:59 AM Response to Reply #15 |
125. "Good luck under corporatist rule, union workers!" would have been a more accurate post. |
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vi5 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
16. Good and I hope they stick to it.... |
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florida08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
18. He's right |
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brooklynite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 02:37 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Much better to let unemployment insurance end... |
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jtuck004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 03:32 PM Response to Reply #20 |
29. I care. Because unemployment is not going to go on forever and I want someone |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 03:57 PM Response to Reply #20 |
31. let's ask the 99ers what they think of the help they've received from the Dem reps |
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hay rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 04:43 PM Response to Reply #20 |
36. Much better to pay the ransom again and again |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 05:15 PM Response to Reply #20 |
40. unemployment DID end for the 99ers.. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 07:09 AM Response to Reply #20 |
137. Unemployment would not have ended. .The "compromise" was a convenient fiction for both Parties. |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 10:37 AM Response to Reply #20 |
202. That is a red Herring. They could have demanded two separate bills. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 01:39 PM Response to Reply #202 |
254. I think Obama did exactly |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 01:36 PM Response to Reply #20 |
252. It wasn't simply on principle. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 02:06 PM Response to Reply #20 |
265. We say we want to move to the LEFT and you say we want to move to the right? |
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xphile (565 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 04:20 PM Response to Reply #20 |
275. And what has been done for the99ers? |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 06:41 AM Response to Reply #18 |
130. Bush tax cuts expired and Bush was out of office before they expired. Tax cuts now in effect are |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 01:29 PM Response to Reply #18 |
250. " Going along to get along ain't working." |
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PFunk (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
22. About f'ing time. |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
26. What took so long? Should have been done long ago. n/t |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
27. Purge all the DLCers. Good. (nt) |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
32. If Republican lawmakers embrace parts of the AFL-CIO's agenda, |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
33. I think this is good for both the unions and the Democratic Party. |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 10:10 PM Response to Reply #33 |
77. Sigh... |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 03:28 AM Response to Reply #33 |
105. Just wow |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 12:07 PM Response to Reply #105 |
232. "Happy"? Where did I sound happy? I just want Washington to stop |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 08:14 AM Response to Reply #232 |
288. Union dues are NOT used for political contributions |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 06:52 AM Response to Reply #33 |
132. LOL! |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 01:42 PM Response to Reply #132 |
257. Funny. I agree. nt |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 10:50 AM Response to Reply #33 |
214. The workers bought the corporate propaganda hook, line an sinker. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 02:10 PM Response to Reply #33 |
266. Unions are the underpinning for all wages and conditions of employment -- !! |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 02:33 PM Response to Reply #266 |
273. Just in case your reading comprehension isn't up to snuff, I'm agreeing with Trumka. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 02:47 PM Response to Reply #273 |
274. Think I was probably replying to someone else -- |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 04:34 PM Response to Reply #33 |
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MasonJar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
35. I don't blame him one bit. If the Dems don't support Labor why should Labor support them? |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
43. Unions are fighting for their very existence... |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
44. Bullshit HuffPo/AOL anti-Dem shit-stirring media spin. Trumka meant and said nothing of the sort. |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 07:54 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. HuffPo as accurate as FAUX? How could that be? |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 07:00 AM Response to Reply #50 |
133. He did state clearly that unions will not be in the pocket of ANY party. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 07:04 AM Response to Reply #44 |
135. Probably best and quickest to read his speech with no spin from anyone. Here's the link. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 02:11 PM Response to Reply #135 |
267. +1 -- Thanks for ... TEXT OF SPEECH ... (above) |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
48. Me Too... |
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GreenTea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
51. I KNOW of many groups including ones I donate to and thousands more of non union people who will NOT |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 01:44 PM Response to Reply #51 |
260. PLUS ONE...............nt |
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BIGFOOTSDADDY333 (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 08:15 PM Response to Original message |
57. labor should groom their own candidate.get some agreed upon |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 02:14 PM Response to Reply #57 |
268. They could support and draft Sen. Bernie Sanders ... who could run on a Dem ticket ... |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
58. Demand-side Economics! Screw! Supply-side Freakanomics! Labor IS Capital! nt |
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MJJP21 (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 08:18 PM Response to Original message |
60. Whats TRUMKA |
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ccinamon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 08:21 AM Response to Reply #60 |
160. Exactly MJJP21! |
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unkachuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 08:38 PM Response to Original message |
63. K&R....excellent!....n/t |
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Taft_Bathtub (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
64. America needs a Labor Party nt |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
65. what has he done for the unions that helped him into power? |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 07:24 AM Response to Reply #65 |
142. Trumka covered that pretty well in his speech. Please see quote in Reply #126. |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
68. Good for Trumka! The Democrats have been far to busy courting |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
69. eventually the workers will once again have a say in our party |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 07:38 AM Response to Reply #69 |
153. The DLC can't send us anywhere we refuse to go. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
75. Successfuly primary anti-labor Dems. Problem (slowly) solved. n/t |
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Dyedinthewoolliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 10:06 PM Response to Original message |
76. Time for us to be like Europe |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 02:16 PM Response to Reply #76 |
270. Maybe it could be an alternate Dem Party ... like a split in the party? |
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Dyedinthewoolliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 01:05 AM Response to Reply #270 |
285. Or just anyone |
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RoccoR5955 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 10:19 PM Response to Original message |
78. I'm all with him! The Dems have to work harder for Labor |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 10:30 PM Response to Original message |
79. I have been sick of the bullshit slave labor they have either made contributions in creating or |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 02:18 PM Response to Reply #79 |
271. "Harvesting slave labor all over the world" for elite/corporations ....trade agreements... |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
80. I love this part of the article: |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 12:37 PM Response to Reply #80 |
297. K/R -- |
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Oilwellian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 10:53 PM Response to Original message |
81. Good |
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Populist_Prole (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 11:04 PM Response to Original message |
82. Another K&R |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 11:05 PM Response to Original message |
83. k&r |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 11:26 PM Response to Original message |
85. If they support even one Republican, I just might start crossing their picket lines. |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 06:45 AM Response to Reply #85 |
131. Party over class, no surprises there. n/t |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 09:21 AM Response to Reply #131 |
176. This would only apply to the AFL-CIO. |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 09:36 AM Response to Reply #176 |
178. Yeah, the biggest labor federation in the US. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 12:09 AM Response to Original message |
89. They waited too long -- the $$ they have now is meaningless -- !! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 12:13 AM Response to Original message |
90. If unions had any real power they would be working for a candidate of their own ... |
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davidswanson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 12:24 AM Response to Original message |
95. rapture-like |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 01:04 AM Response to Original message |
98. Take us for granted no more . . . nt |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 01:21 AM Response to Original message |
99. Yes Please My Democrats! Fight harder for our unions ! |
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Mr. Jefferson (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 06:26 AM Response to Original message |
128. LOL... |
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Tripod (534 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 07:00 AM Response to Original message |
134. k&r |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 07:25 AM Response to Original message |
144. Every Labor and Liberal group should take this stance - no unconditional support! |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 07:26 AM Response to Original message |
145. Trumka is correct....They're tired of being taken for granted. |
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TxVietVet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 07:33 AM Response to Original message |
147. I've been a union member for over 35 years. |
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tinwi (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 08:23 AM Response to Original message |
161. This was so the right thing to do |
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Mosaic (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 08:39 AM Response to Original message |
164. It is time to create a powerful Social Democratic Party in this country |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 09:07 AM Response to Reply #164 |
172. Wrong - what we need is a labor party. nt |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 12:46 PM Response to Reply #172 |
241. The Democratic Party IS the party of - oh, wait. |
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kstewart33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 08:57 AM Response to Original message |
167. Oh please. And just where are they going to put their money? |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 09:42 AM Response to Reply #167 |
180. They should put it into union growth and expansion. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 10:16 AM Response to Reply #180 |
190. +1 -- |
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Hotler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 09:01 AM Response to Original message |
168. k&r n/t |
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felix_numinous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 09:14 AM Response to Original message |
174. Corporatist will just bait and switch. |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 09:35 AM Response to Original message |
177. HUGE K & R !!! |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
194. he needed to go a step further: if Dems don't do they job, union should run its own candidates |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
196. Holding politicians accountable for their actions . . . |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
199. Either an empty threat, or thanks for nothing, labor. Enjoy the GOP. |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 11:00 AM Response to Reply #199 |
222. Speaking of empty threats . . . |
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MNBrewer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
200. This is exactly what all the constituencies that are taken for granted by the Dems should be doing |
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certainot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
217. orgs like labor walk on by while 1000 corporate radio stations call them leeches, bottom feeders all |
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radhika (563 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
221. Check this message from Dream Act Supporters to Obama |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
226. SOLIDARITY!!!! |
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fredamae (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
227. I have called and |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
228. If Republican lawmakers embrace parts of the AFL-CIO's agenda, the union federation will respond in |
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blackdem76 (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
229. The US could end up with four parties. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
233. When it come to labor issues, |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
234. I am afraid that Dems will respond by leaning even FARTHER right. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 01:44 PM Response to Reply #234 |
259. If there is a threat that they may lose the unions, they will have to do just that. n/t |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
236. He can say that, but in the end he will have nowhere else to go |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
240. Minnesota found a solution and it isn't bipartisan-DFL, There are other possibilities. k&r n/t |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 01:16 PM Response to Reply #240 |
298. Bipartisan is another way of saying one party rule ... |
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kjackson227 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
247. We know how to erect change, but it's going to take time and effort... |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
251. Beyond Stupid. It isnt hard to figure out what Republicans think of Unions |
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baseballguy2001 (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
253. TOTAL empty threat |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 01:43 PM Response to Reply #253 |
258. And if it isn't an empty threat, we've already lost and unions will be history so no use in worrying |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 07:36 PM Response to Original message |
282. What does "fight harder" mean? |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 11:38 AM Response to Reply #282 |
293. kill the trade deals |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 01:10 AM Response to Original message |
286. Democrats betray labor |
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BOG PERSON (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
296. it's probably not a good idea for a union to be totally dependent on an outside political party |
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iwishiwas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
299. And stick to your word! |
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