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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 05:31 PM Original message |
Sand Dune Lizard Could Cost Jobs in Texas If Added to Endangered Species List |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
1. Right -- it's never outsourcing, union-busting, capital flight to lower wages, etc. that "cost jobs" |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 07:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
26. + 1 brazillion |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 07:12 AM Response to Reply #1 |
54. Ah, the Spotted Owl claim all over again. |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 08:20 PM Response to Reply #1 |
65. This is huge news out here |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
2. Good. |
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0rganism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
3. or: Oil Industry Jobs in Texas could cause extinction of Sand Dune Lizard |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 05:47 PM Response to Reply #3 |
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rfranklin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 05:51 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. There is zero evidence that the lizard will cause job losses... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 05:55 PM Response to Reply #8 |
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0rganism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 06:00 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Really? can't we at least try for apples-to-apples comparisons? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 06:08 PM Response to Reply #10 |
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Vinee (421 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 06:39 PM Response to Reply #10 |
21. when you put it that way I guess I feel like jobs are still way more fucking important. |
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0rganism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 09:43 PM Response to Reply #21 |
45. I guess we'll just have to fucking disagree, then |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-02-11 12:30 AM Response to Reply #21 |
67. Then why is your answer to any job shortage ''put chain gangs to work''? |
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zonkers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 08:19 AM Response to Reply #10 |
57. I can't tell you that lizards's exact place in the scheme of things but failure to adopt |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 06:05 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. Sand dune lizards have as much to do with loss of jobs in Texas |
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individual rights (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 06:08 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Three... |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 06:11 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. I vote for more jobs in renewable energy and fewer oil-based jobs. (nt) |
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individual rights (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 06:12 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. One for jobs... |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 07:06 PM Response to Reply #6 |
25. It's a test. |
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individual rights (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 07:43 PM Response to Reply #25 |
34. I don't believe in the supernatural, so I'll take the jobs. |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 07:11 PM Response to Reply #6 |
27. False dichotomy. It's corporate profits vs a liveable planet. THAT's the issue. |
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individual rights (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 07:46 PM Response to Reply #27 |
36. Does a livable planet require sand dune lizards? |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 09:07 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. there's one certain way to find out.. |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 09:48 PM Response to Reply #36 |
47. Wouldn't putting a national rail system in place create jobs Einstein? |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 09:50 PM Response to Reply #36 |
48. Ask the animals that are effected by their loss. |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 07:59 AM Response to Reply #36 |
56. spoken by a true member of the right wing... |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 11:49 AM Response to Reply #36 |
59. Yup |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-02-11 08:55 AM Response to Reply #36 |
73. Unknown. But it certainly doesn't require oil. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
4. Then again, this could all just be corporate fear-mongering. nt |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
5. Some things |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
7. how about providing jobs in renewable energy. |
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0rganism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 06:03 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Adding Sand Dune Lizard to ESL could create Jobs in Renewable Energy |
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Crowman1979 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
16. WHAAA? But Gov. Perry said that unemployment was at -1% |
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kentauros (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-02-11 07:29 AM Response to Reply #16 |
70. More like Perry's brain capacity is at -1% |
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morningglory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
18. That's what we need: every square inch of the country |
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Vinee (421 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 06:40 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. yeah, oil...who needs it? |
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OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 07:20 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. That thinking is pathetic. Absolutely pathetic. |
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christx30 (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 07:43 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. I can't fill up my tank |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 09:54 PM Response to Reply #33 |
49. Cool. Then Texas can be one huge Port Arthur - how attractive!!! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 07:44 PM Response to Reply #28 |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 09:42 PM Response to Reply #35 |
44. How about all those jobs lost due to the oil spill in the gulf? |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 01:59 PM Response to Reply #44 |
62. Oil spills are far more likely offshore than on land |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 02:35 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Tell that to all the fishermen that have nothing to catch. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 08:32 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Um . . . tell them that statistically offshore oil spills are more common than on land oil spills? |
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Vinee (421 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 07:49 PM Response to Reply #28 |
37. Is it? how so? Do tell. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 01:58 PM Response to Reply #28 |
61. Presumably you're typing this on a computer made of rocks and wood |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 07:17 AM Response to Reply #22 |
55. And yet . . . |
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Vinee (421 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 11:57 AM Response to Reply #55 |
60. Try living without it. Good luck. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
20. ABC News' Robin Gradison contributed to this story. |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 09:08 PM Response to Reply #20 |
40. i think we have an american petroleum spokesmodel here on the thread.. |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
23. Isn't it peculiar how corps are suddenly concerned about jobs when their bottom line is threatened. |
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MyUncle (798 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 07:01 PM Response to Original message |
24. I like having Oil Industry jobs in Texas. I don't think they'll kill off the lizards. |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 09:42 PM Response to Reply #24 |
43. what you say is what will happen, it will CREATE jobs not cost jobs |
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bloomington-lib (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 07:21 PM Response to Original message |
29. "the biggest threat facing the oil business in memory" |
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0rganism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 09:48 PM Response to Reply #29 |
46. Whoa! You win the thread! |
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plumbob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 07:22 PM Response to Original message |
30. BULL-SHIT! Not one square inch of Texas has ever been disqualified, ever, |
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quaker bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 07:36 PM Response to Original message |
31. If they are endangered |
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bulloney (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
32. Sand dune lizard? Is that Gov. Perry's nickname? |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 11:01 PM Response to Reply #32 |
51. His nickname for what he tweets to college girls... |
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saras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
38. If I have to choose, people can always get other jobs. Species can't just get new niches. |
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rwsanders (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 09:13 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Exactly, |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 06:50 AM Response to Reply #38 |
52. Excellent point. |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 08:54 AM Response to Reply #38 |
58. Very good point. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 02:00 PM Response to Reply #38 |
63. "People can always get other jobs" |
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Macoy (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-02-11 06:59 AM Response to Reply #63 |
68. people can always get other jobs? |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-02-11 07:12 AM Response to Reply #63 |
69. There's a difference between "unemployment" and "extinction" ... |
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primavera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-02-11 08:03 AM Response to Reply #38 |
72. +1 n/t |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
42. they "could" but they'll probably ADD jobs |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
50. Wonder if 'W' ever found any sand dune lizards in Midland? |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 06:54 AM Response to Original message |
53. 2101 Headline: "Extinct Sand Dune Lizard Held Key to Cancer Cure" |
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kentauros (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-02-11 07:33 AM Response to Reply #53 |
71. How about |
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John_Adams (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-02-11 05:10 PM Response to Reply #53 |
74. I've heard a similar thing said about the aborted scientific researcher. |
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