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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 06:37 PM
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African women say rebels raped them in Libyan camp
Source: McClatchy

By David Enders | McClatchy Newspapers

JANZOUR, Libya — When the sun sets on the refugee camp for black Africans that has sprung up at the marina in this town six miles west of Tripoli, the women here brace for the worst.

The rebels who ring the camp suddenly open fire. Then they race into the camp, shouting "gabbour, gabbour" — Arabic for whore — and haul away young women, residents say.

"You should be here in the evening, when they come in firing their guns and taking people," one woman from Nigeria said Wednesday as she recounted the nightly raids on the camp. "They don't use condoms, they use whatever they can find," she said, pointing to a discarded plastic bag in a pile of trash.

As she spoke, other women standing nearby nodded in agreement.




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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 06:44 PM
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1. Recommend
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 06:50 PM
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2. Sad
simply, Sad.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 06:50 PM
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3. Contributed to by racism at its ugliest.
:(
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 07:05 PM
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5. I expect Amb Susan Rice to take up for these women immediately
with the same alacrity that she spread the rumors of mass rape that turned out to be false.
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Vattel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 09:04 PM
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6. I do wonder what she thinks about this news.
And I wonder what the new Libya will be like. I hope that the revolution, in spite of all of the horrible violence it unleashed, including the horrific acts of violence and racism described in the OP, will at least yield a government that is more just than its predecessor. I worry, and I suspect Rice does too, that it won't.
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EvilMonsanto Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 07:01 PM
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4. I'm sorry but...
Who put the rebels in power again?
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Kurska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 09:28 PM
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7. Very sad, but it still doesn't make Gadaffi Just.
I hope the men who raped these women are found and punished.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 11:02 AM
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15. What does that have to do with anything? Does it make the US aggression for regime change just?
These women were raped, because of racism and the "black mercenaries" invented by racist war propaganda.

Saddam Hussein (another guy the USG armed and aided for a long time) was incomparably worse to his people than Gaddafi was to Libyans. Were you therefore for the Iraq invasion? What about five years later? And what will you be thinking of this latest adventure where USG has no business in five years?
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 09:48 PM
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8. If this is true, it is very sad.
However, the following does not make sense:

Relations between Libyans and black African workers have long been troubled. Many Africans came here without official documentation from the Libyan government and grew accustomed to abuse as a part of life, something they accepted in trade for employment in oil-rich Libya.

"Sometimes your boss beats you or doesn't pay you," said Stacey Alexandra, 26, who said she had spent the last three years in Libya cleaning private homes and hotels and sending money back to family in Cameroon. "Now everyone here wants to leave. This country is too racist."

Alexandra showed a scar on her arm that she said had come from an assault on the street as she was leaving her home last month as the fighting intensified.

"It was a group of young men," she said, adding that they did not appear to be a faction fighting for either side.

So how can they say it is the rebels??


There is a Human Rights Watch report that states:

Human Rights Watch has not found evidence of killings of Africans in Tripoli or systematic abuse of detainees, but the widespread arbitrary arrests and frequent abuse have created a grave sense of fear among the city’s African population, Human Rights Watch said.


http://www.hrw.org/news/2011/09/04/libya-stop-arbitrary-arrests-black-africans

I hope the NTC gets to the bottom of this, not only for the protection of the women, but also to make sure the rebels are not doing it, and if they are not, put a stop to false reports.


One of the things that has astounded me in this conflict, are the number of reports by the media that have been completly wrong.





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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 09:56 PM
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9. One of the things that has astounded me is...
...the number of reports grasping at straws trying to box the revolutionaries in as some homogeneous group of raping islamist racist terrorists.
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 10:15 PM
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10. Don't forget their wasteful and dangerous practice of engaging in celebratory gunfire
Another thing used to prove how "bad" they are--worse than Gaddafi!1!! :)
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AverageJoe90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 09:49 AM
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12. So much for the 'liberal' MSM......
On the other hand, if they were Muslim Brotherhood ya wouldn't hear a damn peep out of any of the mainstream channels.....
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 03:55 AM
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13. LOL, some "revolutionaries". They're NATO mercs, more like it, for all practical purposes.

As for the Islamist, terrorist, al-Qaeda connection/association, that is simply a matter of public record and has been extensively covered even in the MSM; and so has been the horrific record of the "rebels"' murderous racism and nearly systemic discrimination/hate crimes against the Black Africans (who have been overwhelmingly on Gaddafi's side; and um, no, not because they were Gaddafi's "mercenaries").

Not that any of this should come as a shock to anyone who's done any research on the US government's lengthy and extensively documented record of foreign interventions, subversions/overthrows and what not. :shrug: The only thing that is surprising is that so many people are still fooled by corporate propaganda and its false narrative. :shrug:
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Prometheus Bound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 05:25 AM
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14. Amen!
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 11:46 AM
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17. The AQ claims are Right-Wing spewage.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 11:50 AM
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18. you're misinformed
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 11:47 PM
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20. Gosh, the sanctimonious interventionists would never do such a thing.
Bring on the Viagra, bring on the rape squads. Let's not forget that Qaddafi never said he'd kill the civilians of Benghazi; he's a butcher anyway.

It goes both ways, and people with a prejudice tend to dismiss their own side's infractions while amplifying those of their enemy.

The warmongers who barked for war did so while insulting anyone who didn't want to intervene as some kind of savages or enablers of a tyrant, but the continuing innocent victim bellyaching from these pro-war interventionists is long past nauseating. Everything bad that happened or will happen since March 19th is the fault of the pro-war people, and they need to take responsibility.

It is amazing how a bunch of people who demanded intervention in a sovereign nation's affairs still demand some kind of aristocratic immunity from any reproach. How dare any of us philistines deny their right to use force of arms to browbeat foreigners into behaving as we require.

If the revolution gets a bit unstable and messy in the next year--as most tend to do early on--this will be used to help unseat Barack Obama next year. Somehow this will also be the fault of those who said we shouldn't be engaging in this adventure, because nothing means anything anymore except that Barack Obama is perfect, and the rest of reality is as as fantastical as evolution or gravity.

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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 05:49 AM
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22. rabid pro-"interventionists", taking responsibility for anything?.. you've gotta be kidding.

i agree with your comment overall, though.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 10:36 PM
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11. One can be on the right side of a rebellion and still be biggoted racist asshole.
Unfortunately, :(
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 11:32 AM
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16. "the right side of a rebellion" sounds just about right, in this case.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 12:27 AM
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21. That would describe half of the U.S. in 1776-1865
All men are created equal unless they were african slaves.
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 02:17 PM
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19. That's a switch.
In Africa, it's usually the UN peacekeepers raping the locals, not the rebels.
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