san diego blackout

[bananas]

Source: kogo am 600

widespread outage
listening to kogo am 600
typing on my cellphone


No link yet.

[gateley]

1. Whoa - wonder what's up? nt

[bananas]

4. the entire county seems to be out

the sdge website is down
people calling into the radio
north as far as oceanside
east to Julian
south to national city

traffic lights are out

[bananas]

20. 800-600-kogo is phone # for kogo am 600

in case anybody needs to call them
www.kogo.com

[YvonneCa]

23. LINK to San Diego...

...live press conference:

http://www.fox5sandiego.com/news/breaking_news_livestream/

[YvonneCa]

25. They are saying it will be out all night...

...and into tomorrow. Don't know of any terrorism connection...

[Bosonic]

27. Possibly an industrial accident?

http://twitter.com/#!/Mytopstory

((BREAKING NEWS)) Unconfirmed reports of an explosion at Sea Power Plant in Yuma, AZ.
14 minutes ago

Update the unconfirmed reports say the explosion at Sea Power plant it happened right before the power outages.
11 minutes ago

[MrsCorleone]

2. From what I can tell, most all of San Diego is without electricity.

San Diegans will miss Obama's speech unless SDG&E gets the power up soon. How perfect. :sarcasm:

[villager]

3. most of the county (!) according to Twitter updates...

n/t

[bananas]

5. san clemente is out

android app iheartradio to listen to logo
I have a Walkman
I'm going to save my phone battery

[villager]

7. apparently all the way to the border: Yuma to Southern Orange County

wow...

[Bosonic]

I'm seeing tweets that also say Phoenix is blacked out

Can anyone verify this?

[villager]

10. Seeing more Tweets saying that, myself....

n/t

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[former9thward]

19. No, I am in PHX. No blackout here.

[Bosonic]

29. Thx for info (ChandlerJr too)

[bananas]

11. is san onofre nuclear generating station in the blackout region? nt

[villager]

17. Yup.... So is Camp Pendleton...

n/t

[frylock]

14. those of us at work wouldn't have been able to watch anyway

[aggiesal]

24. Forget the speech ...

We're going to miss the NFL football opener !!!

[MrsCorleone]

6. According to SDG&E, San Diego County and South Orange County are w/out power.

[Miss_Underestimated]

8. just in time for the president's speech!! n/t

:eyes:

[PatrynXX]

15. so which tea party fan

threw the switch off ?

[MrsCorleone]

31. Power went out about 15 minutes before speech started.

Very convenient. It was almost impossible to watch via cellular because of system overload.

Sucks.

[sdfernando]

9. It was weird..

It was weird...was in a meeting and I heard the AC kind of rev down and up a bit...lights dimmed then up the everything went out. Ran into our Data Center to check the UPSs. By the time I got there the generator had kicked in. Now I'm stuck at work until the power comes back up. Need to be here in case we need to have the fuel refilled for the generator. Hopefully it won't be that long!

[boppers]

59. For you, sdfernando:

From: http://xkcd.com/705/

[David Sky]

12. My heart goes out to my friends in San Diego county!

Evidently the cell towers are working, for some at least, who have texted into this web site.

Does this have anything to do with the nuke plant in San Onofre, (between San D and Los Angeles)?

I don't want to start rumors, San Onofre doesn't supply ALL power in that area, only a relatively small amount.

This sounds like a major transmission line tripped off overloads on other supply lines by over burdening them with demand.

What's the weather like there today? Sunny and exceptionally warm 90 .. (San Diego is often in 70's)

Maybe the high temps and demand for power tripped it off.

[frylock]

13. sitting in a dark office in scripps ranch..

not really looking forward to the drive home.

[urgk]

18. This isn't an NFL game blackout by chance?

As in, they won't play it on local TV because all the stadium tickets haven't been sold?

Serious question. Not trying to make a joke.

[SoapBox]

21. It's really, REALLY hot in Southern California!

...overloaded maybe.

[David Sky]

34. That was my thinking when I read that it was like 90 in downtown San D.

That's unusual for the city, not so unusual 20 miles inland. But I think there's probably an overload of power demand due to high temps in downtown and coastal areas.

[Sisaruus]

22. Telecommunications, too?

Only 1 out of 20 cellphones of patrons in my son's bar is working.

[alp227]

26. KOGO? You mean the local Limbaugh station?

Sorry that SD lacks a real news radio station. KOGO is the local Rush Limbaugh station and has in this current daypart (3-6PM) Roger Hedgecock, former mayor turned right wing blatherer. I wonder if KNX (a real news station) up in LA is covering this if you can receive it down there or maybe listen online.

[Dreamer Tatum]

28. Yeah, they're faking the SDG&E news conference right now.

Jesus.

[bananas]

33. the local news staff are on-air taking calls and reporting

continuous local live news coverage
good signal throughout the county

[cpwm17]

38. And you forgot: Roger Hedgecock - former prison inmate

It's part of the right-wing radio resume.

I called my mother in South San Diego (Otay Mesa), a few miles north of the Mexican Boarder, and as reported, the lights were out in her neighborhood also. She says that it has been hot, which is not normal for San Diego. That could be what caused the blackout? Though most people near the coast don't have AC.

[rainbow4321]

30. Possibly up to 5 million without power

http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/2011/09/power_outage_diego_oc_angeles_heat.php

A power outage affecting all of San Diego County has been reported today, and now we're seeing tweets that the lights have gone out in Dana Point, Laguna Niguel and Mission Viejo. : The San Diego Union-Tribune now says this thing goes from Arizona to Baja Califorina to South Orange County. We're estimating that if all of San Diego and TJ are out this could potentially affect 5 million people.

[Bosonic]

32. Blackout shuts down San Onofre nuclear reactors

The blackout affecting large swaths of San Diego County led to a shutdown of two reactors at the San Onofre nuclear power plant.

Gil Alexander, a spokesman for Southern California Edison, said the power outage did not cause any safety issues. Alexander said a fluxation in power caused the reactors to shut down at 3:38 p.m. but that the overall plant continues to have power.

He said the system worked as it was supposed to during a loss of power.

Across San Diego, businesses are closed, traffic is snarled and the trolley system is down. San Diego International Airport was on backup generators.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/09/blackout-san-onofre-reactor.html

[David Sky]

35. KPBS News release on web site:

SDG&E Loses Power In Entire System; Million Affected-Residents Urged To Remain Home
BY KPBS
Originally published September 8, 2011 at 4:24 p.m., updated September 8, 2011 at 5:13 p.m.
SAN DIEGO — A major transmission line supplying power to massive Southern California went down at about 3:38 PM, leaving millions of people in the region without power.

A San Diego Gas and Electric spokesman said at a news conference that they do not have an estimate as to when power will be restored. Some customers may be out for days.

Officials do not know the cause at this time, but do not believe it is related to terrorism.

The sudden loss of electricity led to numerous reports of people stuck in elevators, serious traffic jams caused by the loss of traffic signals throughout the region and serious confusion.

There are media reports of outgoing flights grounded at San Diego Int'l Airport, emergency personnel are being called into work, police officers are being deployed to intersections and San Diego Mayor Jerry Sanders has activated the Emergency Operations Center, usually reserved for major disasters, like wildfires.

The San Diego Trolley has also been shut down and many stores have closed because they cannot process sales through their cash register.

San Diego State University has cancelled classes for the day & sirens were heard wailing on the campus at about 4:45 PM for several minutes.

We will update as soon as more information is available. For more immediate updates, follow the KPBS News Twitter account: @kpbsnews

[Odin2005]

36. WTF?

[russspeakeasy]

39. Ken Lay lives...

:evilgrin:

[Odin2005]

40. LOL!

[MrsCorleone]

46. LOL!

:hi:

[krispos42]

37. AP: "Power out for millions in Calif., Ariz., Mexico"

By JULIE WATSON - Associated Press | AP – 4 mins 50 secs ago

SAN DIEGO (AP) — A power outage is affecting millions of people across southern California, Arizona and Mexico. San Diego Gas & Electric Co. Darcel Hulce said that crews Thursday believe the outage was caused by a system breakdown and assured people it was not the result of a terror attack.

All outgoing flights from San Diego's Lindbergh Field have been halted and police stations are using generators to accept emergency calls.

The outage that started shortly before 4 p.m. PDT extends from San Clemente, Calif. to San Diego to Yuma, Arizona. It also is affecting cities south of the border across much of the state of northern Baja.

Hulce says power may not be returned until Friday.

<end>

http://news.yahoo.com/power-millions-calif-ariz-mexico-002048883.html

[tawadi]

41. SDG&E Says Power Outage Countywide May Last Overnight

http://coronado.patch.com/articles/power-out-throughout-san-diego

[thelordofhell]

42. Corporate negligence on infrastructure black out Southern California

Greedy pigs laying off people who maintain the power grid. Fuckin' bastards

[Dreamer Tatum]

43. You have no fucking goddamned idea what's going on.

FAR too soon to start spouting bullshit.

[thelordofhell]

44. Then why wasn't it a brownout?

The grid is supposed to compensate for this, it didn't. Something got overloaded or shorted that wouldn't have if there were enough spent on infrastructure of the power grid in this country.

[Dreamer Tatum]

61. It was human error. Shit happens. nt

[thelordofhell]

65. Which is why the power grid is supposed to have redundancies

So "shit happens" doesn't black out the entire southwest border for 7 hours. The power infrastructure has been ignored by the private companies that were entrusted to maintain it, only to pocket their profits and let it dilapitate. Expect more "shit happens" until people die by the thousands because nobody is paying attention right now.

[Dreamer Tatum]

66. Get off your soapbox.

In this case "redundancy" would have meant an entire backup grid. Not feasible, not practical.

Anyway, you're really just axe-grinding against those bad old companies, when you haven't presented
one whit of evidence of malfeasance. You ARE aware that they're regulated, yes?

Please don't respond until you can prove your assertions.

[thelordofhell]

69. Dream on dreamer

Redundancy does not mean an entire backup grid, it means that the power grid can re-align itself when a part goes out because of "shit happens". Stop sticking up for the weak power grid in this country and start standing up for the jobs that would happen to update it and keep it modern as opposed to the slacking and foot dragging that will eventually plunge some city into a days long blackout that will kill thousands.

This is not a "soapbox"......it is a fact, our power grid is woefully maintained. Why don't you go look it up on google.......it's everywhere. Now go stick up for the power companies somewhere else, your shtick is getting old here.

[Javaman]

70. +1 nt

[Occulus]

48. It's a valid point, though.

All infrastructure, throughout the US, is in bad shape, and our power grid is frighteningly vulnerable.

We need to start fixing shit. Yesterday.

[slackmaster]

58. Republicans will blame it all on Obama

Mark my words.

[Dreamer Tatum]

60. It was simple human error. Go find another outrage. nt

[slackmaster]

63. I hear a little bird chirping outside

:crazy:

BTW, it's just after 7:00 AM here. I haven't read the newspaper yet, and I have absolutely no idea what triggered yesterday's power outage.

But I can say with certainty that partisans of all stripes will find a way to blame it on partisans of other stripes, no matter what actually happened. I'm just stating a fact. There is no outrage here at all. I'm just glad the power is back on, and that I didn't lose any perishable food or run out of beer before it ended.

[Javaman]

71. Your reply was...odd. nt

[tawadi]

45. K&R

[Occulus]

47. "san diego blackout"

"no link yet"

:spray:

:rofl:

Oh. You weren't punning.

[UpInArms]

49. I am only going to comment about this from a very rural America perspective

my electric service is "iffy" at best

This week, we have had 4 "blackouts."

That means that everyone within a 30 mile radius has lost power and waited for - oh - however long - until, the power came back on.

How does that feel, you ask?

Well, in the middle of the day - when attempting to work - everything stops.

Stops.

If you have a hardwired telephone, you can still talk to someone. If there is also a cellphone, you can talk to 2 people simultaneously. If you are doing research on the internet, it stops.

If it is at night, you sleep. If it is in the evening, you can light an oil lamp and have the "amish" experience.

Yawn.

All I can say is:

Get used to it. Power comes - power goes. If you are on the "grid," you are subject to power loss.

Figure out if you are part of the problem or part of the solution.

What is the solution, you ask?

Well, that is part of the problem and we need to figure out why we have decided to be so dependent on power. Be powerful. Stop being part of the problem. Stop being dependent on something - someone - to deliver your power.

Stay safe.

[CreekDog]

50. Stop being dependent on power?

A city is about civilization and interdependence.

In a city, you depend on things. In fact, that's the point --it is also the beauty of it.

You see it as a negative to depend on somebody --it's not, in fact it's the very point of civilization.

[UpInArms]

51. I understand that

How do you deal with the loss of power - in our case - 4 times in the past 5 days?

We pay a high price for our utilities, but they find we are "too expensive" to maintain. What happens to the cities when the utility companies find that for them?

Is this the future?

Just askin'.

[CreekDog]

52. I don't know but I do know that the next step isn't everyone trying to fend

If you're in a dense urban area, in an apartment, in multiresident complexes, etc. it's not feasible to just fend for oneself.

And the reflexive, American-style, individualist approach when solving the problems for everybody gets difficult --it makes the problems even more difficult to solve.

I understand if you're in the countryside you can have a diesel generator, solar panels, and seemingly do have to fend for yourself.

But to suggest that because of infrastructure failures we need to rely on ourselves, that's just giving up on society...oh, there may be a point where that actually is a consideration, but not after some power failures.

That's my frustration.

[UpInArms]

53. this is a huge discussion in our household

how do we - as a nation - deal with the corporative ownership of our power?

Do we attempt become self-sufficient (almost impossible and very expensive)

or, do we just sit back and buy oil lamps and candles?

There is so much not working in our world right now - how do we - or when do we - collectively or individually - find a way to make it work differently?

[Delphinus]

62. I really like

what you have to say and the thoughts/questions your words have generated.

[CreekDog]

67. Those are big questions

I wish I had the answers. :shrug:

[FiveGoodMen]

72. "how do we - as a nation - deal with the corporative ownership of our power?"

We take it back from them or we deserve what we get.

How did we ever fall for privitization?

[AnotherMother4Peace]

54. 10:20 pm - finally came back on - electricity being restored to San Diego county slowly nt

[bananas]

55. Yup - power back in Mission Valley nt

[tawadi]

57. Yay!

[slackmaster]

56. It's back on now.

What did I miss?

[MrsCorleone]

64. Link to the transcript of Obama's Address inside:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/09/08/address-president-joint-session-congress

The media in SD county is doing a piss poor job of reporting on Obama's speech. It's as if it never happened.

[slackmaster]

68. I've spoken with a couple of dozen people here so far this morning, and not one has mentioned it

The power outage had a major, direct, immediate impact on every person here.

[bananas]

73. I don't care what he has to say anymore - actions speak louder than words.

A lot of us are just disgusted with his actions.