GOP to Planned Parenthood: Hand over records

[vminfla]

Source: Associated Press

A Republican-led House panel has asked the Planned Parenthood Federation of America to hand over more than a decade's worth of documents in a probe of whether the organization improperly spends public money on abortions.

Democrats and Planned Parenthood supporters say the 90-year-old group is audited regularly and publicly and that the probe is the latest Republican run at shutting it down


Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/gop-planned-parenthood-hand-over-records-214350203.html

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No comment, just disbelief.

[livetohike]

1. The GOP would like everyone who has had an abortion to

start wearing a red A so they can be identified. I'm convinced that's where this is all going.

[LiberalFighter]

2. To bad they couldn't hand over fake documents or maybe they have real ones

of high profile Republicans having abortions.

[bongbong]

3. Privacy?

There is no right to privacy in the New & Improved USA. Only the government is protected by saying "National Security!". Planned parenthood should use that excuse.

[amb123]

18. +100

In today's America, "The only people who care about Privacy are the Guilty!"

:mad: :scared:

[Nuclear Unicorn]

32. They can get what they want without patients' names but it isn't about that

It's too much hassle to stop individual women so instead they will harrass providers.

By the time they're done regulating, taxing, inspecting and licensing PPFA to death we'll pine for the days of obnoxious sidewalk "counselors."

[Ineeda]

4. It might serve them right if they get what they've requested.

(Although I vehemently object to the proposal) They'd be buried in documents that would be contrary to their agenda. Only 3% of the services PP provides is related to abortion. The rest is general women's health care. Imagine wading through a decade of paperwork for STD's, birth control, cancer screening, and adoption counseling? Of course, the patient's identifying information would have to be redacted. I'm 100% sure they wouldn't find a single violation of the law, so they'd be looking through a massive haystack to find a needle that isn't there. To be clear, I am absolutely not in favor of complying with this request.

[hootinholler]

13. On radaction:

Who will be paying for that? I seriously doubt the committee will be ponying up funds so it will force PP to spend money that would otherwise go to care.

:grr:

[booley]

28. To quote the Lawyer from RoboCop 2

"It doesn't matter if evidence exists.. I'll find it."

This is a fishing expedition and it doesn't matter how squeaky clean an organization tries to be, there is no record that can't be made to look suspicious.

It's not as the truth is any impediment to the GOP.

[Bjorn Against]

35. I just saw the RoboCop movies again for the first time since I was a teenager

I was too young to realize just how subversive those movies were then, but I can sure see it now. The first movie almost seems prophetic, the themes about the privatization of public resources and the efforts of the corporation to take away the officer's humanity and make him a mindless robot that serves their interests are more timely today than when the movie was released almost 25 years ago. The sequels were really cheesy compared to the original, but even they carried a strong anti-corporate message.

[Botany]

5. We should win the next election(s) in a walk* because ....

.... Republicans are nasty towards women and that is a a huge a voting block. If every
women in America who has gotten health care and or reproductive consultation from
Planned Parenthood was aware of just how plain nasty the republicans are and would
get out and vote it would be a landslide.

BTW a short list of who the republicans have been nasty to:

Women
Gays
Students
Latinos
Firefighters
Cops
Teachers
State and Local Govt. Employees
Unions
Environmentalists
Seniors
African Americans
Democrats
the Middle Class
the Poor
People who have suffered a natural disaster
the unemployed
the sick
Construction workers .... no need for the President's "Jobs Act"
The President
The President's nominees
Postal Workers
9/11 rescue workers

The list of who the Republicans have been nice to:

The Rich

[AlbertCat]

6. a short list of who the republicans have been nasty to:

The list of who the Republicans have been nice to:

The Rich

**************

Hmmmmm....

I wonder how many on your 1st list would also go on your second list.


Like there are no rich

Women
Gays
Students
Latinos
State and Local Govt. Employees
Unions
Environmentalists
Seniors
African Americans
Democrats
People who have suffered a natural disaster
the sick
The President
The President's nominees

[blackspade]

10. What is your point?

[joeglow3]

16. Seemed obvious to me

People will overlook the abuse if their pockets are getting lined.

[blackspade]

19. So you are saying that all of these folks are getting their pockets lined?

Women
Gays
Students
Latinos
State and Local Govt. Employees
Unions
Environmentalists
Seniors
African Americans
Democrats
People who have suffered a natural disaster
the sick
The President
The President's nominees

[joeglow3]

21. Where did I say ALL of them?

The point is that there are people in all of those categories.

[blackspade]

31. So, in other words the Rich.

Just like Botany was pointing out.
The fact that any one of these folks might also fall into any one or more of these categories is irrelevant.

As it stands though the vast majority of the folks on the list are part of the bottom 80%.
That means that:
Women
Gays
Students
Latinos
Firefighters
Cops
Teachers
State and Local Govt. Employees
Unions
Environmentalists
Seniors
African Americans
Democrats
the Middle Class
the Poor
People who have suffered a natural disaster
the unemployed
the sick
Construction workers .... no need for the President's "Jobs Act"
The President
The President's nominees
Postal Workers
9/11 rescue workers
Federal civil servants and retirees
Disabled veterans
The arts / artistically creative community

Are all getting screwed by the rethugs, corporations, and Democratic enablers (I'm looking at you Blue Dogs and DLC/Third Way).

The attack on Planned PArenthood is just another in a long list.
It will be an absolute travesty if they manage to do to Planned Parenthood what they did to ACORN.

[Muskypundit]

23. Reddddddd herring.

Yum.

[Zambero]

17. My observation

One doesn't always require a "point" in order to reach a conclusion, or absent that to raise a question: Just how many segments of society can Republicans continue to demonize and/or alienate without self-destructing? That Republicans manage win elections at all, given their record of exclusion and blatant overreach, is astounding.

[blackspade]

20. See #19 above

I was questioning AlbertCat's comment.

[Zambero]

25. Added to list:

Federal civil servants and retirees
Disabled veterans
The arts / artistically creative community

[angel823]

39. agree we "should" win

But the real question is how do we get this message out there to all the people? Who else will do it, if not us? We need to be our own media, as many DUers have pointed out in recent posts related to the media coverage of Wall Street and other protests.

My parents and many neighbors self-identify as teaparty folk, although I am convinced they truly don't understand what they are supporting. And I don't believe we should give up on all of them. If we are to have a true "American Spring" then we need all of us, (or as many of us as we can get) to say, enough is enough:

No more person hood for corporations. If you do business here, pay some taxes damn it. Why do we give oil companies making record profits, quarter after quarter, extra tax breaks while infrastructure crumbles? Create meaningful and transparent campaign reform.

Why are first responders, nurses and other health care providers, teachers, postal workers (let's just choose to use the post office instead of fedex or ups...no brainer!) and the lower to upper middle classes taking the hit? We are the job creators. It seems obvious to us, but how do we get that message across? And simply choosing "D" instead of "R" doesn't solve the problem nowadays, so it's harder still. Whoever is in office, we must hound them, and never "sit down and shut up". That's American Spring to me.

Angel in a very dry Texas

[CTyankee]

7. Waita minute! What about JOBS, JOBS, JOBS???

Where's the connection?

[ehrnst]

8. How about Haliburton and Blackwater? (nt)

[think]

15. EXACTLY! nt

[Gregorian]

24. No vaginas. Not applicable.

Kill all of the people you want, just don't involve a vagina.

These creeps are obsessed with private parts. Not life. They're confused.

[ehrnst]

42. "Solution" looking for a "Problem." (nt)

[blackspade]

9. Planned Parenthood to GOP:

Fuck Off.

[Dogtown]

11. K&R n/t

[hootinholler]

12. OFFS! Oh For Fucks Sake.

[Zambero]

14. An attempt to "ACORN" another organization that doesn't fit the RW agenda

Smoke, mirrors, intrusions of privacy, halting medical care and screenings that save women's lives. Whatever it takes.

[buckrogers1965]

22. The should refuse to hand over any records.

Just quote HIPAA regulations that congress passed as grounds to not turn over any health records.

[GreenPartyVoter]

26. +1

[Solly Mack]

27. Fuckers

[glinda]

29. Audit and hand over your f*^&^^$ records asshats.

[Beaverhausen]

30. and this is creating jobs how?

Seriously, this is what they spend their time on?

[Le Taz Hot]

33. Planned Parenthood to GOP:

"Kiss my ass!"

[MH1]

34. It's all the fault of the Blue Dogs!!!! ... oh wait ....

if we had a few more DINOs and Pelosi still had the gavel, this bullshit wouldn't be going on. If a few more dems had voted in 2010, this bullshit wouldn't be going on.

I don't like centrist dems much but one thing they do is keep the gavel where it belongs and out of the hands of the American Taliban.

[Rhiannon12866]

36. Good God.

x(

[Festivito]

37. Seems more a partisan political stunt, rather than another PP shutdown attempt.

And, stunt, is what it should be called.

[vminfla]

40. I doubt it is mere gamesmenship

The GOP has been aggressively targeting Planned Parenthood, sometimes denying funding where Planned Parenthood is the only healthcare provider at all.

[Festivito]

41. I think they're desperately trying to keep the abortion issue an issue.

This shows that there is a fight and keeps their hoodwinked thinking that Repubs are doing SOMETHING.

Abortion is a code-word that religions can use, gain a big donation, and earn it by supporting Republicans without using the party name and putting their non-profit status at risk.

They lost the battle on gays. They need to push the abortion issue harder.

[angel823]

38. wow

I guess I need to send Planned Parenthood another donation soon. I'm almost 50 - in my young, poor, sexually active days, Planned Parenthood was my source for health care. I can't believe anyone would be against "planning your parenthood". Isn't that the definition of being responsible for yourself?

Angel in a very Dry Texas.