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Dover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 12:56 PM Original message |
U.S. to Build Up Military in Australia |
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TygrBright (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
1. What the F***? WHY?!? |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 01:08 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. The Australians want us there |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 01:21 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. And their economy is doing better than ours. Let them pay to build up their own military if they |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 01:30 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. It saves us money too so it is mutually beneficial. nt |
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plumbob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 03:18 PM Response to Reply #14 |
27. How would it save us money as compared to not going there? |
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freshwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 03:38 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Yup, this is weird. And it keeps that Pentagon pig flying... |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 04:51 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. We have vital national interests in the Indian Ocean |
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formercia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 05:11 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Auusies like their Beer Very Cold. |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 05:33 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. God punished me by sending me to Australia after I was married. nt |
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formercia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 05:37 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. You should have gone before you were married. |
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plumbob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 07:31 PM Response to Reply #30 |
39. What interests would those be? Giving free rides to HB-1 workers |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 07:44 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Free movement of maritime commerce. |
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plumbob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 09:38 PM Response to Reply #42 |
49. Let the sellers provide for free movement. It's a cost of doing business. |
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newspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-12-11 02:57 PM Response to Reply #30 |
56. I love the "we have interests in the region" |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-12-11 03:18 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Our economy depends on those sea lanes in the Indian Ocean |
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newspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-12-11 03:26 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. yeah, well how is that rebuilding infrastructure going? |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-12-11 05:15 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. The MIC accounts for about 4 percent of GDP |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-11 10:46 PM Response to Reply #30 |
75. we need a national debate about just how far we want to go in our colonialism |
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24601 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 07:47 PM Response to Reply #5 |
43. Kiwi's could invade any day now. n/t |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 10:02 PM Response to Reply #43 |
51. Look a 100 miles to the north. nt |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-11 03:14 PM Response to Reply #51 |
70. Okay, what am I supposed to be looking at? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-12-11 04:51 AM Response to Reply #5 |
52. Deleted message |
Harmony Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-12-11 02:44 PM Response to Reply #5 |
55. How are the Australians weak? |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-11 03:23 PM Response to Reply #5 |
71. Correction. The sycophantic Australian government wants you there... |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-11 01:11 PM Response to Reply #1 |
69. You took the words right out of my mouth. |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
2. We are the most war mongering country in the world. |
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Dover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 01:09 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Did you read the article? |
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TygrBright (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 01:23 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. Yanno, I just don't believe in the Yellow Peril... anymore than I believed in the Red Menace. |
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AverageJoe90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 02:52 PM Response to Reply #12 |
22. The Soviets weren't ever a real threat in this part of the world for the most part......... |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-11 10:52 PM Response to Reply #6 |
77. " beefing up their arsenals" is what led to WWI - this is just dumb |
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AverageJoe90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 02:53 PM Response to Reply #2 |
23. China will probably be much worse. nt |
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cottage10 (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
3. And we are borrowing money from China... |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
4. "The move could help the U.S. military...to spread its influence west and south across the region" |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 01:09 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Countries is the region are concerned with Chinese expansion into the Indian Ocean |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 01:23 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Then let those countries do something about it. We should stay out of it. n/t |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 01:34 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. The US and global economy depends on the free flow of oil |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 02:40 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Of course it has to do with oil. God forbid that we endanger the profits of the big oil companies. |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 02:55 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. No - our entire economy depends on that flow of oil |
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plumbob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 07:36 PM Response to Reply #24 |
40. Just wouldn't happen. For instance, I'm enjoyed electricity at 6.6 cents |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-15-11 09:54 AM Response to Reply #24 |
79. and THAT is the reason we need to decentralize energy & be serious about alternatives |
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dixiegrrrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 01:52 PM Response to Reply #4 |
16. Exactly as outlined in The Grand Chessboard. I recommend reading it. |
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AverageJoe90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 02:48 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. Iran is an obstacle to what, exactly? |
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dixiegrrrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 03:33 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. I recommend the book, or at least the preface. |
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Swede Atlanta (906 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
8. Shrink the military not grow it.... |
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Dover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 01:18 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Our shrinking footprint is exactly why this is happening... |
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plumbob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 07:38 PM Response to Reply #9 |
41. Get their own damned umbrellas. I want health care for Americans |
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area51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-11 11:37 AM Response to Reply #41 |
67. +1 n/t |
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Citizen Worker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
13. Would someone please define "US interest" in Australia. The term is often used to justify our |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 02:41 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. Our interest is in the Indian Ocean |
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cstanleytech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
17. Does this mean we will be closing our bases on Okinawa? |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 03:12 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. No - just like Australia, Japan want the US military around. nt |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 07:58 PM Response to Reply #25 |
44. nobody wants to pay for the military but they want it |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 09:35 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. The Japanese have payed for a large and modern military |
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cstanleytech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-12-11 01:39 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. Is Japan paying the for the upkeep of the bases? |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-12-11 03:46 PM Response to Reply #53 |
59. They pay about nine billion annually |
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Fool Count (878 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-13-11 04:14 PM Response to Reply #44 |
64. China? Whom did China occupied, attacked or bombed ever? |
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Lurks Often (505 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-11 08:49 AM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Maybe you should do some research |
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Fool Count (878 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-11 09:20 AM Response to Reply #65 |
66. If that's all you can pin on China, I will very confidently stand by |
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Lurks Often (505 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-11 12:31 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. Ah, the denial method |
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Fool Count (878 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-11 04:49 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. Tibet is not a country. It was under Chinese rule of some form |
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Lurks Often (505 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-11 06:30 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. I'm guessing the Dalai Lama would disagree with you about Tibet, |
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Fool Count (878 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-11 07:15 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. Oh, those lovable United States. They just can't say no when |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-15-11 09:15 AM Response to Reply #74 |
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alp227 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
18. Has ANY candidate other than Ron Paul advocated shutting down intl bases? |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 03:17 PM Response to Reply #18 |
26. RP only one. |
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Ter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 06:52 PM Response to Reply #18 |
37. Gary Johnson |
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Hotler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 05:05 PM Response to Original message |
31. Now is not the time to point fingers. |
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4_TN_TITANS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
33. And Rome keeps extending it's reach |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 05:53 PM Response to Original message |
36. US military bases are vital to protecting strategic kangaroo scrotum reserves |
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Sancho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 07:21 PM Response to Original message |
38. oh hell! are there wmd's in Australia? Invade!! Attack!! |
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24601 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
45. Lady, I may not know anything about this thing you call sex, but if |
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Safetykitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
46. Unfreakingbelievable. We will NEVER stop. It will never end. |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 08:26 PM Response to Original message |
47. I think that is an absurd excuse to have build up in Australia. |
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unkachuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
50. '..."permanent and constant" access to Australian facilities...' |
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Harmony Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-12-11 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
54. Don't buy the propaganda |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-13-11 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
61. China was my first thought before even clicking on this thread. |
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Harmony Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-13-11 11:36 AM Response to Reply #61 |
63. There is no future struggle |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-13-11 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
62. Joeys and koalas need to be taken down! |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-11 10:51 PM Response to Original message |
76. "Chinese intentions are uncertain"---they're going to attack Australia? Yeah, right |
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