Canada eyes Asia after U.S. delays Keystone project

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Source: Reuters

HONOLULU, Nov 13 (Reuters) - Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper said on Sunday his country will make a bigger push to sell its energy products to Asia after Washington delayed a decision to approve the Keystone XL Canada-to-Texas oil pipeline project.
"This does underscore the necessity of Canada making sure that we are able to access Asia markets for our energy products," Harper told reporters on the sidelines of the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation forum.
"That will be an important priority of our government going forward and I indicated that yesterday to the president of China."

Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/feedarticle/9945280

[msongs]

1. sounds like another lie and fake cause and effect linkage nt

[Vincardog]

2. The dirty KEyStone pipe was to sell to China. If the Koch bros want to refine asphalt let them do it

in Canada

[CHIMO]

4. Could Be

But another scenario has it being shipped from the Gulf to the East Coast of Canada for a $20/b profit. All for US corporations.

[Vincardog]

6. It was always only going to raise the price of Midwest gas. Most likely pollute the Water and

Definitely push global climate change deep into the unrecoverable abyss

[FreakinDJ]

3. Fuck Texas and their Nonunion Polluting Bullshit

[Swede Atlanta]

5. Whatever....................

There is no "domestic" market anymore. All of the world's resources, including oil, are global. They are sold on the global market. I am opposed to the current plans for the Keystone pipeline but am not opposed to refining and using North American oil in North America. But this does nothing to reduce our dependence on foreign oil. Today Canada is the largest exporter of oil to the U.S. and has been for some time.

[Vincardog]

7. All of the world's resources, including oil, are global. Not true. This would have raised the price

of MW gas by .20/gallon

[SoapBox]

8. So...this is blackmail?

Take your f'ing toxic "frack'n" stuff and spill it all over your own country.

[freedom fighter jh]

9. The secretary of state should be negotiating with Canada to stop this.

There are many problems with the pipeline but the worst, IMO, is that it would accelerate climate change. Using tarsands oil will do that whether the oil is transported via pipeline or in some other way. The U.S. should be trying to stop Canada from selling tarsands oil to Asia for the same reason the pipeline should have not be approved -- because too much fossil fuel use will make the planet uninhabitable to the human race.

[prdel]

10. How do you propose to do that?

Canada is literally sitting on hundreds of billions of dollars of revenue in the tar sands. What can we do to keep them from cashing in? Kick them out of the NHL? There's too much profit for the oil companies, and too much tax revenue for Ottawa, for them to just abandon it. Sorry, ain't gonna happen. If we refuse to buy it, someone else will (or maybe already did, if Harper is talking to the Chinese).

[AlwaysQuestion]

11. Ah shucks, don't worry about Canada.

C'mon, guys, not to worry about whether or not this bodes well for the U.S., China, Canada or the environment. What is important is that it bodes well for any and all corporations connected in anyway to the tar sands of Alberta. There will be no winners among the plebes in any of the three countries. We the workforce of the rich don't tell government what it can and cannot do; that's the prerogative of the ruling classes. Once we wrap our collective heads around that one, we can better understand our respective roles; namely, that we are mere servants and expendable fodder for wars.

Basically, people are people around the world--no matter where you go. That's why I have always hated wars--they pit man against man when neither has anything against the other until their respective governments pile on the rhetoric, the fear and the propaganda and then give you and I instruments of destruction and order us to go at it. When will we plebes learn.

Same with this pipeline thing. In all our countries, our respective governments will say whatever is necessary to swing things around such as they will please the international corporations. And never ever worry about Canada. We are but a puppet of the U.S. To think otherwise is to be delusional. Our Mr. Harper will do as he is told. Thus, you may be sure that whatever Harper says, it has had prior approval of your President. Ya just can't listen to the "news" for the real goods. It just ain't there. Thus, in IMHO, it is foolhardy to take any stock of what Harper has to say.

[Dutchmaster]

12. Good, let em

Don't want that mess coming through my backyard.

[truthisfreedom]

13. Every electric car purchased frees up enough electricity in the grid to accommodate charging it.

Here's how. Every gallon of gas requires 5kWh of electricity on average to refine. That's why you see giant transmission lines going into refineries. Electric cars (like the Tesla Roadster) can easily drive 20 miles or more on that much electricity. That's the approximate mileage an equivalent sports car gets! So each gallon of gas you DON'T buy frees up the grid enough to drive an electric car as far as a gas car would drive on that gallon of gas!

So many claim that electric cars will require building up the grid. That's a complete falsehood. Every electric car on the road will reduce our dependency on gas and improve our electric infrastructure at the same time.

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16. !

Thanks!

[mistertrickster]

14. Why doesn't Canada refine that shit right there in Canada? Because they

don't want the pollution?

Yeah. I think that's probably it.

[whosinpower]

15. There are allot of us canucks

Who are against the pipeline because we feel that the refining should be done in Canada actually. There are allot of us who beleive that we should be doing the value adding to our own resources rather than just exporting them.

But, of course, this is all kabuki theatre. Under Nafta - all oil and gas exports must go through the US. So - Harper is rattling a sabre that will break the NAFTA agreement, and I am 99 percent positive that it is just empty rhetoric.