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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 03:38 PM
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(California) fiscal nightmare: deep cuts on horizon
Source: San Francisco Chronicle

California faces deep mid-year cuts to its universities, community colleges, social service programs and public schools - which may have their year shortened - because the state will collect billions in revenue less than expected, according to a report released today.

The report by the Legislative Analyst's Office says the state faces a budget deficit in the current fiscal year largely because it will collect only $300 million of $4 billion that Gov. Jerry Brown and the Legislature added to the budget just days before it was approved in June. Critics had called the sudden infusion of projected revenue "phantom money" that was conjured to avoid deeper spending cuts.

... The first tier, just over $600 million in spending, includes $100 million in cuts each to the University of California and California State University Systems.

... The second tier of cuts could include up to $1.8 billion to K-12 schools and might mean reducing the school year by up to seven days and eliminating school buses. Community colleges also would take a $72 million cut.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/11/16/BASO1LVO2M.DTL&tsp=1
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 03:59 PM
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1. Cutting government spending in the middle of a recession is insane. n/t
-Laelth
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 04:28 PM
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2. What was insane, was racking up debt during the good years under Bush.
That's how we got in a situation where in the bad times, we can't afford to rack up more debt to sustain spending when things are lean.

You are correct that spending would help. Cutting it is horrifying. BUT, Bush bled this country dry over almost a decade. Now what do we do?
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Iliyah Donating Member (828 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 04:32 PM
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3. Plus the 1%
is still not paying their fair portion of the taxes same with corporations. Corporations refused to create jobs and are sitting on trillons of dollars while send jobs overseas. Citi Bank will be laying off 3,000 people and I bet these jobs are already in India.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 05:05 PM
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6. Since 1981 we've had stupid tax cuts for the rich and increased taxes for the not-rich.
Out tax system has been insane for 30+ years. I agree.

But cutting spending now is still not a good idea. Governments should borrow and spend more in a recession. California still has no trouble selling its bonds.

-Laelth
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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 05:51 PM
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10. a plan
30 MILLION PRODUCTIVE JOBS TO REBUILD US INFRASTRUCTURE, INDUSTRY AND AGRICULTURE: THE PROGRAM TO END THE ECONOMIC DEPRESSION

The US and the world are gripped by a deepening economic depression. There is no recovery and no automatic business cycle which will revive the economy. This bottomless depression will worsen until policies are reformed. The depression results from deregulated and globalized financial speculation, especially the $1 quadrillion world derivatives bubble. The US industrial base has been gutted, and the US standard of living has fallen by almost two thirds over the last four decades. We must reverse this trend of speculation, de-industrialization, and immiseration. Current policy bails out bankers, but harms working people, industrial producers, farmers, and small business. We must defend civil society and democratic institutions from the effects of high unemployment and economic breakdown. We therefore demand:


1. Measures to reduce speculation and minimize the burden of fictitious capital:

End all bailouts of banks and financial institutions. Claw back the TARP and other public money given or lent to financiers. Abolish the notion of too big to fail; JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, Citibank, Wells Fargo and other Wall Street zombie banks are insolvent and must be seized by the FDIC for chapter 7 liquidation, with derivatives eliminated by triage. Re-institute the Glass-Steagall firewall to separate banks, brokerages, and insurance. Ban credit default swaps and adjustable rate mortgages. To generate revenue and discourage speculation, levy a 1% Tobin tax (securities transfer tax or trading tax) on all financial transactions including derivatives (futures, options, indices, and over the counter derivatives), stocks, bonds, foreign exchange, and commodities, especially program trading, high-frequency trading, and flash trading.

Set up a 15% reserve requirement for all OTC derivatives. Use Tobin tax revenue and a revived corporate income tax to provide immediate tax relief to individuals, families, the self-employed, and small business by increasing personal exemptions and standard deductions. Stop all foreclosures on primary residences, businesses, and farms for five years or the duration of the depression, whichever lasts longer. Set a 10% maximum rate of interest on credit cards and payday loans. Re-regulate commodities markets with 100% margin requirements, position limits, and anti-speculation protections for hedgers and end users to prevent oil and gasoline price spikes. Enforce labor laws and anti-trust laws against monopolies and cartels. Restore individual chapter 11.



2. Measures to nationalize the Federal Reserve, cut federal borrowing, and provide 0% federal credit for production:

Seize the Federal Reserve and bring it under the US Treasury as the National Bank of the United States, no longer the preserve of unelected and unaccountable cliques of incompetent and predatory bankers. The size of the money supply, interest rates, and approved types of lending must be determined by public laws passed and debated openly, passed by the congress and signed by the president. Stop US government borrowing from zombie banks and foreigners -- let the US government function as its own bank. Reverse current policy by instituting 0% federal LENDING with preferential treatment for tangible physical production and manufacturing of goods and commodities, to include industry, agriculture, construction, mining, energy production, transportation, infrastructure building, public works, and scientific research, but not financial services and speculation.

Issue successive tranches of $1 trillion as needed to create 30 million union-wage productive jobs and attain full employment for the first time since 1945, reversing the secular decline in the US standard of living. Provide 0% credit to reconvert idle auto and other plants and re-hire unemployed workers to build modern rail, mass transit, farm tractors, and aerospace equipment, including for export. Extend 0% federal credit for production to small businesses like auto and electronics repair shops, dry cleaners, restaurants, tailors, family farms, taxis, and trucking. Maintain commercial credit for retail stores. Create an unlimited rediscount guarantee by the National Bank for public works projects to provide cash to local banks for bills of exchange pertaining to infrastructure and public works. Repatriate the foreign dollar overhang by encouraging China, Japan, and other dollar holders to place orders for US-made capital goods and modern hospitals. Revive the US Export-Import Bank. Set up a 10% tariff to protect domestic re-industrialization. Nationalize and operate GM, Chrysler, CIT, and other needed but insolvent firms as a permanent public sector. Maintain Amtrak and USPS.


3. Measures to re-industrialize, build infrastructure, develop science drivers, create jobs, and restore a high-wage economy:

State and local governments and special government agencies modeled on the Tennessee Valley Authority will be prime contractors for an ambitious program of infrastructure and public works subcontracted to the private sector. To deal with collapsing US infrastructure, modernize the US elgeneration, pebble bed, high temperature reactors of 1,000 to 2,000 megawatts each. Rebuild the rail system with 50,000 miles of ultra-modern maglev Amtrak rail reaching into every state. Rebuild the entire interstate highway system to 21st century standards. Rebuild drinking water and waste water systems nationwide. Promote canal building and irrigation. For health care, build 1,000 500-bed modern hospitals to meet the minimum Hill-Burton standards of 1946.

Train 250,000 doctors over the next decade. The Davis-Bacon Act will mandate union pay scales for all projects. For the farm sector, provide a debt freeze for the duration of the crisis, 0% federal credit for working capital and capital improvements, a ban on foreclosures, and federal price supports at 110% of parity across the board, with farm surpluses being used for a new Food for Peace program to stop world famine and genocide. Working with other interested nations, invest $100 billion each in: biomedical research to cure dread diseases; high energy physics (including lasers) to develop fusion power and beyond; and a multi-decade NASA program of moon-Mars manned exploration, permanent colonization, and industrial production. These science drivers will provide the technological spin-offs to modernize the entire US economy in the same way that the NASA moon shot gave us microchips and computers in the 1960s. These steps will expand and upgrade the national stock of capital goods and enhance the real productivity of US labor. Return the federal budget and foreign trade to surplus in 5 years or less.


4. Measures to defend and expand the social safety net:

Restore all cuts; full funding at improved levels for Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps, jobless benefits, WIC, Head Start, and related programs. Offer Medicare for All to anyone under 65 who wants it at $100 per person per month, with reduced rates for families, students, and the unemployed. Pay for this with Tobin tax revenues and TARP clawback, and by ending the Iraq and Afghan wars. Seek to raise life expectancy by five years for starters. No rationing or death panels; savings can come only by finding cures. Quickly reach a $15 per hour living wage. Repeal the Taft-Hartley Act and affirm the right to organize. Pass card check to promote collective bargaining.


5. Measures to re-launch world trade and promote world recovery:

Create a new world monetary system including the euro, the yen, the dollar, and the ruble, plus emerging Arab and Latin American regional currencies, with fixed exchange rates and narrow bands of fluctuation enforced by participating governments. Institute clearing and gold settlement among member states. Replace the IMF with a Multilateral Development Bank to finance world trade and infrastructure.

The goal of the system must be to re-launch world trade through exports of high-technology capital goods, especially to sub-Saharan Africa, south Asia, and the poorer parts of Latin America. Promote a world Marshall Plan of great projects of world infrastructure, including: a Middle East reconstruction and development program; plans for the Ganges-Bramaputra, Indus, Mekong, Amazon, and Nile-Congo river basins; bridge-tunnel combinations to span the Bering Strait, the Straits of Gibraltar, the Straits of Malacca, the Sicilian narrows, and connect Japan to the Asian mainland; second Panama canal and Kra canals; Eurasian silk road, Cape to Cairo/Dakar to Djibouti, Australian coastal, and Inter-American rail projects, and more. American businesses will receive many of these orders, which means American jobs.


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This program will create 30 million jobs in less than five years. It will end the depression, rebuild the US economy, improve wages and standards of living, re-start productive investment, and attain full employment with increased levels of capital investment per job. Most orders placed under this program will go to US private sector bidders. Because of the vastly increased volume of goods put on the market, inflation will not result.


http://www.mediafire.com/file/a6a655srp04b55c/5%20Point%20Plan%20To%20Rebuild%20America.txt
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 10:50 PM
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22. I only had the time to skim that text,
but by what I can glean it is impressive.

Do you know who authored it?

I'd like to pass this proposal on to some enterprising people in the Integral/Ken Wilber orbit.
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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 06:30 AM
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24. I was passed the link to the text document some time ago
From what I gather, it was first published as a PDF 2 years ago here : http://tarpley.net/five-point-program.pdf . Tarpley is a large proponent of returning to the FDR mode of governance, and using the power of the 'American System' http://tinyurl.com/298oelm and here http://tinyurl.com/dxcht8 as originally envisioned by Alexander Hamilton, Henry Clay, et al. to pull the country from the grasp of the Anglo-American banking cartel.
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 06:57 AM
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25. Thanks.
I'm somewhat familiar with Webster Tarpley and will pursue the other links as well.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 05:31 PM
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9. +1
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nineteen50 Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 06:04 PM
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12. The financial sector crashed the economy and the politicians
are going to pay for it with austerity policies.
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Imajika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 06:29 PM
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13. Racking up debt was a mistake...
But this is a state issue, has nothing to do with the former resident of the White House.

Bush is an idiot, but California has simply spent far more than it takes in for years and years now. They should probably raise taxes, but it seems Californians oppose further tax increases. So what's left? Maybe the occupy movement will have had some effect and people will be open for tax increases on the rich. Unfortunately, so long as states compete many of those rich people and business will just leave and go to a lower tax state.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 07:05 PM
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14. Wealthy Californians oppose further tax increases
and they get their way, because here, a two-thirds supermajority is required to raise any taxes. And, surprise, the repukes won't budge, even if it means watching the state fall apart before our eyes.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 12:26 PM
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29. And there are only 4 rethugs
holding the state hostage..One of them is my state senator, tom harmon and he is termed out of every office now. All the legislative rethugs have signed grover's pledge.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 12:28 PM
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30. I thought there were about three that had not
one being Sen. Sam Blakeslee (R-San Luis Obispo).

Of course, he votes as though he had. :eyes:
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 12:49 PM
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32. Off the top of my head, I can't remember all 4.
Have to look it up on Calitics. I was just floored because another BoD member and I had just been to his office to make him aware that the 40 yr old after school program IN HIS DISTRICT was struggling to the point of having to close our doors - more unemployment. We might as well have stood outside and talked to the wall.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 07:08 PM
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16. The good years under Bush?
The only good years I remember for quite some time were under Clinton.
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 08:51 PM
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19. Maybe not 'good' but 'not-recession'.
So.. comparatively good. I agree, the latter half of the 90's was better still. By a LOT.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 07:53 PM
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18. We Got ENRONed Out of Billions of Dollars
Collusion from the Bush Dept. of "Justice" and the recall to install the Gropernator made sure that the crooks got to keep the money.
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Alhena Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 04:32 PM
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4. Well, state governments can't print money like the feds can
when the money isn't there and no one will loan you more at any kind of affordable interest rate, there aren't many options.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 05:03 PM
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5. California is still quite able to sell bonds. n/t
-Laelth
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 07:06 PM
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15. Good point
though our bond rating is in the tank.

Still, desperate times call for desperate measures.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 05:18 PM
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7. If pensions are underfunded they should either be fully funded or cut
Edited on Wed Nov-16-11 05:18 PM by BeyondGeography
Continuing to screw students and the currently employed this way is madness. And, yes, I know there are constitutional issues on both sides of the problem, but California has built itself a fiscal prison, which is leading to the abyss.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 05:23 PM
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8. I wonder how much they could save each year
by declining to arrest or prosecute Marijuana based offenses, including declining to participate in federal operations of the same type, and by granting early parole or commutations to people in jail purely on MJ related charges?

Might be a less destructive area to start cutting first.

Also wonder if the armies of riot cops sent after protests effects that bottom line. I know most of them are local, city or county, but does the state contribute money to local coffers, the way the federal govt contributes to the states?

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nineteen50 Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 06:02 PM
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11. How is that forced austerity working?
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 07:28 PM
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17. CA republicans are the choke point in the legislature. destruction of teachers is their goal nt
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la la Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 09:37 PM
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20. how about this?
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 10:17 PM
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21. While I don't think legalizing marijuana
Edited on Wed Nov-16-11 10:24 PM by fujiyama
is the panacea many here claim it would be, there would be many benefits that would go towards easing this deficit.

A few points:

- Taxing it would bring the state revenue.

- Releasing non violent prisoners would free up space in prisons. The state spends more on prisons than education. Also, this would allow the state to well, lay off prison guards. I know many object to the idea that state workers should feel any burden, but if teachers and students have to feel the pain of austerity and budget cuts (and they already have), let the prison industrial complex feel it too. State pensions need to be addressed. It's insane that after just a few years of working, prison guards (among many other state employees) are basically set for life. That's not sustainable at all. The state will have to grapple with state employee pensions sooner or later, or it will bankrupt the state.

-Raise taxes for those with the absolute highest incomes in the state (and there certainly are many millionaies). Either raise income tax rates on the highest earners or repeal the proposition that kept property taxes artificially low. I'd favor the former, unless there's a way to protect the elderly and those on fixed incomes from being hit with incredibly high property taxes.
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 12:32 AM
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23. and tax oil & natural gas collected
there was this bill intro'd in the assembly a few years back for that. http://info.sen.ca.gov/pub/09-10/bill/asm/ab_0651-0700/ab_656_bill_20090225_introduced.html
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4dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 07:11 AM
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26. Prop 13 coming home to roost.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 10:53 AM
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27. my first thought as well. nt
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 12:32 PM
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31. Prop 13 has been roosting for decades.
Edited on Thu Nov-17-11 12:33 PM by Xithras
Problem is, the low property taxes have now been built into the pricing of our housing market. Even if it were repealed tomorrow, property taxes could only be raised slowly, over a period of at least 20 years, to avoid triggering another housing meltdown like the last one. It can't offer us any "quick" help.

Not that it matters. 13 is a sacred cow and won't be sacrificed any time soon.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 01:11 PM
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33. In a way, the amazing thing is that it's taken this long
proof of California's inherent strengths (Pacific Rim trade, Silicon Valley innovation, etc.).

Once we throw off the shackles of Prop 13 (split list for commercial property, or even just reassessment of commercial property, much of which has changed hands under shady circumstances over the years to avoid same), we'll be on the way back.
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Throd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 11:08 AM
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28. Hey, we have 100 billion to build a choo-choo from Arvin to Shafter.
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