Gingrich: Laws preventing child labor are 'truly stupid'

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

Source: CNN

(CNN) - Newt Gingrich proposed a plan Friday that would allow poor children to clean their schools for money, saying such a setup would both allow students to earn income and endow them with a strong work ethic.

Speaking at Harvard's Kennedy School of Government, the former House Speaker said his system would be an improvement on current child labor laws, which he called "truly stupid."

"It is tragic what we do in the poorest neighborhoods, entrapping children in child laws which are truly stupid," Gingrich said. "Saying to people you shouldn't go to work before you're 14, 16. You're totally poor, you're in a school that's failing with a teacher that's failing."

<...>

"I tried for years to have a very simple model. These schools should get rid of unionized janitors, have one master janitor, pay local students to take care of the school. The kids would actually do work; they'd have cash; they'd have pride in the schools. They'd begin the process of rising."

Read more: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/11/19/gingrich-laws-preventing-child-labor-are-truly-stupid/

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Leave it to Newt to use one speech to both propose a throwback to the workhouses of Dickensian England and attack school janitors as some kind of cushy elite.


"No second helping of porridge for you, Oliver Twist! Now go scrub the toilets in the boys room!"

[CaliforniaPeggy]

1. I can tell it did him a lot of good.......NOT.

Kids are in school to LEARN. Period. OK, some social skills and like that, but working at keeping the school clean is not the point.

My. God.

He boggles my mind.

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[Divine Discontent]

197. to learn! exactly, CP! he boggles all of our minds. how can people support such stupidity?

they're repubs, that's how. lol. you are so quick at getting first post! you know, that's a game on the intertubes, getting first comment, and you seem to do it better than most. On the next big story where you're first post, put FIRST in the subject just for my kicks n giggles! LOL

Love you CP! :hug:


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[awoke_in_2003]

200. My dear Peggy...

the whole slate of republicans boggles my mind.

[stevedeshazer]

2. If there is a God, then she must be telling us something important about the Gingrich.

As, like, he wants child slavery.

Good idea. Please be the Republican nominee, you Silly Salamander.

[Ken Burch]

183. That only works if Obama doesn't do what he always does

and try to find a halfway point between opposing and supporting News on this idea.

[roguevalley]

3. fat evil troll. what a fat evil troll.

[FailureToCommunicate]

Yes! And full of hot air...

[Ken Burch]

184. To paraphrase George Harrison's immortal line about the "bigger piggies"

(and, mods, this is only metaphorical, so don't freak):

"In his mind there's something lacking,
What he need's a damn good whacking!"

[Joe Bacon]

219. Dear Charles Dickens

Sir:

If you could, please send the ghost of Ayn Rand along with 3 others to visit Newt on Christmas Eve.

Thanks!

Joe B

[mazzarro]

4. How many janitors are employed per school?

And how many poor students does the Newt think are in each of the schools? Does this new plan apply to all schools since there should not be any limit to child employment?

[CreekDog]

64. This is how clueless he is...schools have been cut so badly they might only have one janitor

he's so out of touch he doesn't realize how many unionized teachers are cleaning their classrooms on their own time.

[dotymed]

149. Well, after all of our schools are privatized this will probably

happen. Those damned greedy Union janitors should be fired. Everyone knows how overpaid they are. I bet they make $10 an hour. Who cares? Then the private schools can "hire" the students for $3 an hour and they can support their lazy assed ex-janitor parent and the rest of their no good family.
:sarcasm:


If ever there was a bastard that deserved to have his million$ seized and distributed to the needy it is him. That disgusting POS has no idea of what work is. Where does he "work," the heritage foundation? The place where idiots like him are paid million$ to espouse hate and poverty? Where being a sociopath is the only requirement.

When people like Jonathon Swift made statements like this, at least everyone knew he was a satirist. When Grinch makes a "Modest Proposal" he is serious and believes his own insanity. My God, how can any media or anyone not see that this is a seriously deranged, dangerous person? He really deserves to be given to the poor people of this country. He makes Jack-the-ripper look like a saint.

msp

[christx30]

5. I'm actually glad

Newt said this. We paint the entire GOP with this brush, and force them to either repudiate what he said or somehow come to Newt's aid. Obama gets 300 electoral votes.

[nobodyspecial]

6. So are the rich kids attending private schools

going to be cleaning the toilets as well so they learn a strong work ethic.

[alp227]

8. no, because inner city kids can do it instead

once Newt deports all the illegal aliens who used to clean the 1 percent's mess

[zbdent]

79. It's called "work study" ...

lessons in what they'll be looking forward to under a Repugniconvict regime ... low wages in a (literally) shi* job ...

[zogofzorkon]

27. No... bus in the poor kids,prepare them for the their future

[Enthusiast]

44. They will not need a strong work ethic.

They will have a trust fund.

[RaleighNCDUer]

132. Of course not - they have money. They don't need a strong work ethic. nt

[applegrove]

7. Maybe he is the best candidate for the GOP. Cause he truly is evil.

[blackspade]

9. Newt is such a creep.

[eShirl]

10. This is a man who advocated orphanages for the children of unwed teens

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5007848&mesg_id=5008024

[whathehell]

74. Somehow, I think Newt got the wrong message from reading Dickens...

He thought the author was describing Paradise Lost.

[tblue]

11. "Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?"

Newt is Scrooge. He needs to be visited by ghosts.

[caseymoz]

28. Actually, Scrooge is the Newt's moral superior.

For pure dickery and douchebaggery, Gingrich's is rivaled only by Cheney, Abramoff or Wolfowitz, and perhaps by John Edwards.

But, so what? He's only saying the most extreme things now to keep his name in the papers. Like all his opponents except Romney, his campaign isn't going anywhere.

[reggie the dog]

33. edwards? what did edwards do to make it on that list?

[tavalon]

38. You are so lucky if you don't know.

It is very close to what Newt did with his cancer stricken wife number ______.

[reggie the dog]

40. oh, yes, he cheated on his wife who had cancer

I just dont count cheating on ones spouse as bad as advocating that kids work. on a moral level cheating is horrible, i have never done it and had it done to me a few times. i just have a disconnect between sex life and politics.

on a personal level i agree that edwards is not the kind of person i would be (people do cheat, when my male or female friends begin to tell me about cheating i cut it off quick and say dont tell me what you wouldnt tell your spouse because i dont want to know and keep a secret from them, it will cause me stress)

on a political level he is no where near as bad as the others you listed, i just thought i missed something politally horrible he had done.

i think we can agree that cheaters are not nice people (unless it is an "open marriage" of course and the other spouse expects such behavior)

[red dog 1]

206. He had his wife sign the divorce papers while she was in the hospital with Cancer.

[DBoon]

116. cheating on a dying spouse is very bad

Publicly advocating policies that enslave and degrade and entire generation is a level of evil only a prominent public politician can achieve.

Edward's lack of personal ethics harmed his family (and his own career) severely

Newt's will cripple an entire nation

[SammyWinstonJack]

70. Really!

:wtf:

[reggie the dog]

81. he cheated on his wife

but that is nothing like advocating that poor kids clean their schools. one is being an asshole on a personal level, the other is being an asshole to millions

[caseymoz]

105. You look at the deception he was doing after cheating and conceiving a kid

That he lined up a friend to lie for him and say that it was his child, and that he hired his mistress on the campaign. I don't look at the cheating at all. I look at the other things he did, and things that came out after his career collapsed, none of which have been good. Though I would be surprised if Edwards made a comeback. I wouldn't put it beyond him, though.

I hope you noticed I didn't include Anthony Weiner. It's still an injustice that he had to resign.

[Enthusiast]

45. "douchebaggery"

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

195. Newt would have Tiny Tim pulling a rickshaw, crutch and all, with Newt's fat ass in it

[freshwest]

12. That twisted face is like something out of The Empire Strikes Back. Or something.

[digidigido]

13. This is what witches mean when the say "eye of Newt" in their potions

[MADem]

14. What a jerk! nt

[barbtries]

15. at what age newt?

when would they do their schoolwork? when would they play? any sports, any rest in their lives? any time for friends and family?
he's disgusting.

[vankuria]

104. Should be great for a kids ego...

Having to clean toilets while their better off friends are using their free time to patricipate in sports, fun, activities, etc. And they can bus the poor kids to the more elite schools so they can clean up after rich kids! Wow what an idea!

[DBoon]

117. that's actually how I got through college

housekeeping jobs were the pretty much the only on-campus jobs that weren't work study (parents refused to complete financial disclosure forms required for any aid - another issue)

Ended up in charge of an all-guys dorm noted for parties and general rowdiness.

Nothing like cleaning up other people's shit for a living. Especially when the other people have affluent parents paying their full bill (hence the time to party)

And no I'm not bragging about my sacrifice - it was truly miserable

[pacalo]

218. I'd rather have the character you developed for yourself by having that job

than all of their money.

[barbtries]

163. it really is disgusting.

i just don't get how anybody sees any of these candidates as worthwhile or viable.

[Sherman A1]

16. The continued race to return to the 1880's

there is a special place for these people and Dante comes to mind.

[NickB79]

17. I DID work on the janitorial crew for our school when I was 15, back in 1995

I have no idea what he's talking about with regard to laws preventing children from working. In fact, I was employed through either a state or federal program (I forget which) that provided tax-free summer employment to children of low-income families. I was paid minimum wage and worked 40 hr a week during summer break, along with 4 other students and the two full-time janitors. I showed up at the school at 7am, painted, buffed floors, carried school supplies, mowed grass, did minor repairs, etc, took a 30-min lunch break, and went home at 3:30pm. THEN I had chores to do around the farm.

Have the laws been changed since then to prevent such work? I truly enjoyed that job; it wasn't back-breaking labor like baling hay, paid better than what my parents gave me, allowed me to bank over $1000 that summer alone, gave me something to put down on future job applications, and was actually fun working with classmates.

[bluesbassman]

20. You're missing the point. Gingrich wants 6,7, 8yr olds, etc. to work.

Must earn your keep you know? God forbid that adults do the jobs that preteens can do.

For the record, I had my first paying job at 14. Worked construction all summer between 8th and 9th grade. I did it because I wanted to, not because it was the only way I could afford to pay for my crappy school lunches. Because you know that's where Gingrich and his ilk are headed.

[NickB79]

23. Ah, I see that now

Though to be fair, he did "only" mention something in the article about kids 9-14 years of age.

Yeah, anything before 14 yr or so is probably not a good idea.

[harmonicon]

39. ... and that's why it's illegal. nt.

[freshwest]

180. And I doubt he intends it to be 'voluntary'. And what of students who are having trouble learning?

What will a work day do to them?

Oh, well, maybe they can flunk out and end up as Boehner said 'You were born to be a ditch digger because your parents didn't work hard enough to pay your college tuition, so just get on with it.'

Still, I'm glad you had a good experience with it. There was something similar at my high school, which also taught vocational skills for those not planning to go to college. They had a beauty school to teach that profession, automotive and wood shop, also ROTC for those who wanted to go that route.

I'm sure Newt's solution is to privatize or charter school after shutting the public, take all comers, schools down. We have too many people looking for work and TPTB don't care about educating them to get better lives, they just want them to die out of sight.

[pnwmom]

22. He wants YOUNGER kids to be "able" to work. Much younger.

He wants to change the current labor laws that allowed you to work at 15.

[muriel_volestrangler]

24. Gingirch is talking about them working at much younger ages, and during school

He's complaining that children under 14 can't do work like being a janitor, and claims that successful people all started work between 9 and 14. And he wants to fire adult janitors, who do the work all through the year, and replace them with the poor children. So they'd be doing this work during the school year, clearing up after their richer classmates, and no doubt getting very tired with their schoolwork suffering. But it would suit him to have poor children visibly serving the richer ones.

[DFW]

18. Right idea, wrong cast of characters

It's members of Congress who should be cleaning up their own shit so they remember what a noble, privileged position janitors have.

[Beartracks]

19. Can you imagine the stigma?

Such a program would only "allow" the poor students to be school janitors? Apparently, it's no longer enough that poor students endure the shame and humiliation of hand-me-down clothes and lunch program vouchers; now they should have to clean up the school for everyone else?

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[whathehell]

73. Exactly...Schools are having issues with bullying now...I somehow doubt

this would help.:eyes:

[DBoon]

118. I imagine bullies would leave a literal turd on the floor for their victims

there is a metaphor here for the Republican vision of the future

[whathehell]

151. I wouldn't be surprised. n/t

[sakabatou]

21. "Back into the coal-mines, ya runts!"

[formercia]

109. Life in the Coal Mine...

Work in the coal breakers is exceedingly hard and dangerous. Crouched over the chutes, the boys sit hour after hour, picking out the pieces of slate and other refuse from the coal as it rushes past to the washers. From the cramped position they have to assume, most of them become more or less deformed and bent-backed like old men. When a boy has been working for some time and begins to get round-shouldered, his fellows say that “He’s got his boy to carry round wherever he goes.”

The coal is hard, and accidents to the hands, such as cut, broken, or crushed fingers, are common among the boys. Sometimes there is a worse accident: a terrified shriek is heard, and a boy is mangled and torn in the machinery, or disappears in the chute to be picked out later smothered and dead. Clouds of dust fill the breakers and are inhaled by the boys, laying the foundations for asthma and miners' consumption.

I once stood in a breaker for half an hour and tried to do the work a twelve-year-old boy was doing day after day, for ten hours at a stretch, for sixty cents a day. The gloom of the breaker appalled me. Outside the sun shone brightly, the air was pellucid , and the birds sang in chorus with the trees and the rivers. Within the breaker there was blackness, clouds of deadly dust enfolded everything, the harsh, grinding roar of the machinery and the ceaseless rushing of coal through the chutes filled the ears. I tried to pick out the pieces of slate from the hurrying stream of coal, often missing them; my hands were bruised and cut in a few minutes; I was covered from head to foot with coal dust, and for many hours afterwards I was expectorating some of the small particles of anthracite I had swallowed.

I could not do that work and live, but there were boys of ten and twelve years of age doing it for fifty and sixty cents a day. Some of them had never been inside of a school; few of them could read a child’s primer. True, some of them attended the night schools, but after working ten hours in the breaker the educational results from attending school were practically nil. “We goes fer a good time, an‘ we keeps de guys wot’s dere hoppin’ all de time,” said little Owen Jones, whose work I had been trying to do. . . .

--snip--

http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/5571/

[Fuddnik]

25. Back to the shirt factories! With no fire escapes.

It's pretty obvious that he's playing a mind-fuck game with Republicans.

He must have a bet with someone, that says, "No matter how stupid a policy I propose, I can get the rest of these idiots to agree, and praise my brilliance"!

[bl968]

26. The first step is the hardest

Step 1. Change Child Labor Laws to allow children as young as 5 years old to work.
Step 2. Require any student receiving free or reduced price lunches to work to reimburse the state for their "free ride"
Step 3.....

[sakabatou]

29. Step 4: Profit!

[TlalocW]

31. Where is that from?

It's the second time I've seen it. First was in response to a Facebook post of mine.

TlalocW

[sakabatou]

32. I think it comes from here

http://tinyurl.com/npnyqb

[ZombieHorde]

138. The South Park Underwear Gnomes' business model.

Step one: Steal underwear.

Step two: ????

Step three: Profit!

[Citizen Worker]

30. Would the Newtie's child laborers earn the same wage as the unemployed Union janitor? Newtie's idea

is to forcefully remove a child's childhood.

[FlyByNight]

34. Moralizing hypocrite

But Newt, I've been hearing recently from your sociopathic, grifter base that capitalism, essentially, rendered child labor unnecessary because of the productivity advances brought about by the economic system. Yet, you posit this - I guess - as a serious idea.

So, is the system as productive as advertised or are you just a nihilistic, con-man asshole?

[truthisfreedom]

35. Let me try to sort this out. He just jumped to the top rethug contender.

He divorced his wife on her death bed.

He took millions from one of the worst offenders in the great crash of '08.

And now, ladies and gentlemen, he wants to put America's poorest children to work.

Doing what? Cleaning lavatories to straighten out what's wrong with America?

Seriously. The repukes are more pukey than ever. Puke on, thugs! You've dug your own grave, now sleep in it!

[baldguy]

59. That sounds like an outline for a TeeVee ad.

[HowHeThinks]

36. It amazes me......

that Republicans actually think this guy would be a good President. What goes on in the minds of the typical GOP voter? :shrug: They're so easily manipulated, so easily convinced that their best interests are the PROBLEM with this country. :crazy: Critical thinking skills are not a RepubliCANT'S best attribute. I often wonder if they're capable of critical thinking at all, or if their overwhelming zeal to please those in authority is the only stimulus that keeps electrical impulses firing through their minuscule brains.

[tavalon]

37. Gingrich is intimately acquainted with stupid - he sees it looking out of his mirror daily

And when he looks at his ass, he sees a tail with a spike on the end, a gift from an old friend.

[youbetterwork]

53. careful

To assume that he is just stupid you need to be ignorant of the fact that he has a PhD in modern European history from Tulane.

He was a science teacher, a history teacher, and a geography teacher.

His dissertation was on "Belgian Education Policy in the Congo." Tulane doesn't give those papers out like Chiclets. I know that he has discussed childhood education with really smart people for months on end. Those discussions would surely have included the real science (which we knew even in 1971 when he studied) that childhood education truly breaks the poverty cycle and that childhood work programs do not. Science is cool like that.

He isn't just stupid. He's cruel. His arguments are not good faith arguments. He isn't trying to solve the problems, because he knows the actual science connected to the cure but refuses to advocate for it.

[youbetterwork]

54. also

I meant the third person YOU.. as in all people.

Looking back on my post it seems a little hostile towards you for saying that he is stupid. I didn't intend that...

thanks...

[tavalon]

58. I stand corrected

He's a monster in the rovian model.

[plumbob]

97. You mean the Belgian education policy in the Congo where they

held the wives and children of miners in gulags and chopped off their limbs to "encourage" the miners to be more productive?


I learned about that as a freshman econ major at Texas A&M in the early 70s.

It was thought to be cruel, even by economists.

Newt is damaged. The Unabomber was an academic as well. Too many different sorts of intelligences abound to make any real statement about that, but we can certainly point out sociopathic behaviors, as has been done on this thread and many others previously.

The interview with his hideous parents years ago on television should put to rest any wondering about where he got the damage, but he's too fucked to fix now.

Wishing him an early and earned dirt nap from clogged arteries, exploded system, or other infarction, I'll close my feelings about him.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

155. hideous parents?

I'd really be interested to see that interview, since I came from a damaging childhood too. Only I worked hard to recover----plus I'm not a psychopath at heart.

I didn't know about that "productivity" plan in the Congo, but I was a freshman in the mid 70's, didn't take any Econ classes either...and as I said, I was very damaged. What you describe is....beyond unbelievable.... I'm speechless :(

[plumbob]

168. Here's a snippet from the Connie Chung interview - there's bound to be

more that a longer search would turn up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vecw539MjWM


And yes, certainly, anyone who is willing to work can change themselves, but lazy fuckers who think they're already superior won't do that - hence, Newt.

Footnote to King Leopold and his Congo enterprise: he desperately needed money for gifts so that a 19 year old girl he was pursuing would have sex with him. She got a palace in the middle of a lake and more than a billion dollars worth of gifts in today's values - but it's unknown if she ever did consent.

Delightful, these Western morals, are they not?

[BlancheSplanchnik]

221. thanks for that link, plumbob

don't have time right this second, but I will check it out!!!!




King Leopold......ugh. Powerful men poisoned with greed, testosterone and nothing to reign them in...disgusting is a grievous UNDERSTATEMENT.

Not to mention, Newtie would have been WELL aware of the whole thing.....


ugh.

[BanzaiBonnie]

41. Newt Gingrich is 'truly stupid'

[Enthusiast]

42. Of all the Republican asshole candidates

Gingrich is the most assholiest.

[russspeakeasy]

93. ...and I hope he is their candidate...

[Bo]

43. What's wrong with letting kids earn extra money?

I had a paper rout and mowed lawns and cut trees at 13....

[pschoeb]

61. You can do all those things now

The child labor laws only limit the amount of time a child under 16 can work during the day and week, some jobs are not allowed at all because they are too hazardous or unhealthy for children. The laws also maintain a minimum wage, as well as making sure the child is willingly working.

So knowing all this, what do you think Newt wants?

[plumbob]

98. I teach in a large high school of more than 3500 enrollment. You think

some kids are ridiculed now?

Can't wait to see the "classy" kids pour out their drink on the floor, and say, "Hey, janitor-boy? Clean that UP before you get fired!"

High school is not cruel enough already for those without proper clothes, the neat accessories, a phone of latest design, clear complexion, expensive haircut?

In addition, 85% of the students here qualify for free or reduced lunch, and there are 4 janitors to clean five buildings scattered across 6 city blocks. 3 of those janitors don't deserve to keep their jobs to support their families in this lousy economy?

Paper routes and mowing lawns have a couple of things in common - they can be begun or quit at leisure, and neither is performed in the company and service of other kids.


One last thought - which will have priority - mopping somebody's puke right now or going to science lab?

[CrispyQ]

102. +1

Outstanding & well said.

[Pithlet]

146. Bet there'll be no response from Bo

Just a feeling I have.

[Moonwalk]

203. I dunno. What is wrong with a 9-year-old using hazardous chemicals....

To clean toilets, instead of doing school work--i.e., no labor laws means he can work instead of going to school--and doing it for a pittance that won't buy him much, instead of the money going to a unionized adult janitor who not only can better handle such hazardous chemicals, but use the fair wage the union got him to feed his family?

Please don't compare apples and oranges here. Newt isn't suggesting that kids start lemonade stands on the weekend or that teens to work the register at a burger joint over the summer. He wants to take away jobs from adults, take away the unions that make sure those adults get a fair wage, and give them to kids (no union to make sure they're safe or earning a fair wage or working fair hours) even those now considered hazardous for kids.

Does that really sound right to you?

[KG]

46. this from a guy that never put in a real days work in his life...

[SpiralHawk]

47. Chickenhawk Newtie is hurling mud at janitors?

beyond pathetic.

[red dog 1]

205. Chickenhawk Newbie is hurling mud only at UNION janitors.

[txwhitedove]

48. Whoa. Just 2 days ago I explained to my 10-yr old granddaughter what OWS

movement is about. One of many reasons being protection of labor laws for the health and safety of workers, and that keep little girls like her in school instead of having to work. Her eyes popped out. Yeah well, Newtie just made my eyes pop out. Unbelievable.

[Brigid]

154. Show your granddaughter this thread.

Then she'll know that what you said was literally true.

[Dutchmaster]

49. Is he saying this as a candidate or a historian?

[bowens43]

50. THis man is disgusting , we all knew

but it seems he is going out of his way to remind us what a subhuman piece of shit he really is.

[DebJ]

51. He wants them to pay for their subsidized school lunches.

Newt is one of two congressmen who voted against subsidized lunches every single year.
No doubt he wants the students to pay for them, and no doubt, while earning less than
minimum wage...$2.50 an hour maybe?

[DebJ]

52. He wants them to pay for their subsidized school lunches.

Newt is one of two congressmen who voted against subsidized lunches every single year.
No doubt he wants the students to pay for them, and no doubt, while earning less than
minimum wage...$2.50 an hour maybe?

[sendero]

55. I know who is "truly stupid"..

... and yet somehow he gets tagged with the mantle of "thinker".

"Thinking" bullshit does not make you a thinker.

[alterfurz]

192. "Newt Gingrich is a stupid man’s idea of what a smart person sounds like."

-- Paul Krugman, quoting "somebody once said"

[mwb970]

56. An awful, evil man from an awful, evil party. Yuck. /nt

[BumRushDaShow]

57. I believe these sorts of nonsensical statements are purposefully made

and calculated to get the maximum amount of media attention (these degenerates don't care if it's negative or positive attention). Every one of the dysfunctional GOP candidates has made one when the camera has looked away from them.

It almost seems like they have now been paid off to be the red-meat generators for the repuke "base" in order to divert from the big business establishment who are busy gaming the system in the background.

[youbetterwork]

63. I agree

But this is not just a one off "gaffe".

He has been saying this for ages. He was the one who fought so hard to put the welfare + work thing together during Clinton's years in office. He's being very consistent about putting children to work, and the media should point that out. Instead it's put out there like an odd statement or something said off the cuff, when actually it's a lifelong position...

[IDemo]

60. Are there no Stupid Houses? n/t

[AlbertCat]

62. Just what I expect from ol' Newty

During the Clinton administration, my father, a Repug, had Newt's book "To Renew America". I started reading some of it.


It is clear to me, just from reading some of one of Newty's many books, that he is as insane as Bachmann. He is completely nuts and should never be near any kind of public office. He is certainly not fit to be president, like all the GOP nominees.

[vademocrat]

65. The GOP truly does want to repeal the entire 20th century!

[mulsh]

66. Ulitmately kids could be selling his "books" &"DVD's" door to door

at below legal wages. I believe that's his underlying plan.

Why does anyone repeat what this con man has to say?

[TBF]

67. I started working at 12 - in the summer - there was a nearby "pickle farm"

They used migrant workers to pick the cucumbers and get them ready for processing. The owners had a large farm house and 4 children under 10. There were 4 of us girls and we worked in teams of 2 usually - every other day. We were 12-14 yrs old in age. We cleaned the house, did laundry, watched the kids, and prepared home-cooked meals (3x day - we worked 6am-6pm) for the owners, managers and kids (usually 10-12 folks).

Myself and my girlfriends did this job for $1/hr. We were pretty good at it too - we all were working class kids with brothers and sisters. At the end of the summer my dad turned them into the state for labor violations & we got back pay (minimum wage was 3.25 or so back then). They also had been turned in for migrant violations so they had some serious problems there (there were migrant children younger than us working in the fields).

This is why we need minimum wages laws, unions, and strong support for labor. Poor kids always have to work - and with folks like Gingrich around it will only get worse and worse.

[AverageJoe90]

225. Your dad = brave. :-)

I would've done the same thing he did.........we need more courageous acts like that. =)

[Courtesy Flush]

68. One reason kids drop out of school

Is that they would rather make money working for a living. It's not that they don't have a work ethic, it's the lure of a paycheck that keeps some kids from graduating. I've seen it many times.

[snappyturtle]

69. I beg to differ with the up thread comment that Newt isn't stupid.

It's stupid to take jobs away from janitors who are supporting themselves and families! Sorry but I know many with advanced degrees who do not possess an ounce of social sense. Obviously Newt is steeped in stupidity with this latest reactionary notion he publically professed.

[whathehell]

71. OMG...Yes, let's destroy unions by reversing century old Child Labor laws and putting kids to work

"Teach them a good work ethic" and their "place" in society, no doubt.

Is this guy real?:eyes:

[exboyfil]

72. I run outside a large elementary school in the evenings

and I watch the two janitors in there working very hard for the one or two hours which I am outside of the school (and I run at differen times and they always seem to be busy). I cannnot imagine expecting children to do that work. They should be home studying - that is their job now.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

75. Newt, you ugly, old bastard do the world a favor --

fuck off and die.

[sarcasmo]

76. One Master janitor, that pretty much sums up Newt's utopia.

One Master.

[jdadd]

77. I feel dyslexic.......

Every time I see Gingrich in print, I read Grinch. Maybe it's some kind of sublimanal Message, huh?

[felix_numinous]

78. Republicans deny the reality of abuse

because they condone torture, subjugation of woman and sweat shops.

I swear these people have blind spots so vast they are looking at life through a straw.

[abelenkpe]

80. Republicans have truly lost their minds

No department of education, no EPA, no unions, no regulations, no child labor laws. Yeah cause the 1800's were such a great time.

[sufrommich]

82. The GOP is now officially the party of the insane. They

need to be publicly shamed for shit like this.

[KeyserSoze87]

83. Why stop there, Newt?

Why not just go all the way and bring back slavery while you're at it? Holy shit, I hate these people.

:mad:

[citizen blues]

84. My grandfather had permanent nerve damage from working.....

in coal mines starting at the age of 8. Because of his size,they would send him into areas too small for grown men. He often ended up standing in hip deep in ice water. The nerve damage was permanent, he never did fully regain the feeling in his legs. He had a 3rd grade education.

I am just speechless that any politician would even say these words, let alone mean them! Have we truly lost all sense of decency in this country? Each day I'm more and more and more disillusioned......... no, more like disgusted with the USA.

[Faygo Kid]

85. Newt: You first. For the first time in your life, clean a toilet.

Instead of being a toilet.

[Iliyah]

87. Pay the students .25 cents

an hour, which would get rid of the adult janitors pay with benefits which I think is the most important aspect of Newt's reasoning behind his child slavery act. Teach them how the clean early in order for them to become the next generation of slaves for the 1%. Keep them dumb enough so that the 99% children will be forever in the 1% control.

Newt I bet the 1% children will be exempt, huh.

[idiotgardener]

123. That's less than a penny.

[GoCubsGo]

86. And, Rachel says that Herman Cain's campaign is performance art....

Newt has him beat by a mile. This has got to be a huge joke he's pulling on his party.

[liberal N proud]

88. That gets to the core of what the 1% want

Return to the days of sweatshop labor and the children work and don't go to school.

This is extremely revealing!

[RoccoR5955]

89. Pot says to kettle, "You're black!"

What an ass!

[Riley18]

90. My mom remembers how the nuns let her work after school

because her family was so poor after the Depression. She made $20.00 a month for sweeping their stairs and they always had a piece of cake and a glass of milk waiting for her. Somehow, the fat evil troll bastard has twisted that idea into an unholy and disgusting way to further enslave the 99%.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

91. Bringing down wages and building a permanent underclass

Yeah, let's send underprivileged children into the workforce and get rid of the unionized jobs of adults. Scott Walker must be impressed. And while we're at it, let's do away with age of consent laws and go back to the 19th century with children in brothels. Gingrich should make his campaign slogan "Bridge Into The New Gilded Age".

[Rosa Luxemburg]

92. I guess he doesn't want the nomination either?

[Avalux]

94. Slave labor.

Why Americans can't understand what Republicans want to do to us in collusion with the ruling class is beyond comprehension.

A nation of a few controlling everything with the rest of us as serfs who will be desperate to do anything to eat. To them we are expendable commodities; they don't care if we live or die.

That is their vision of the perfect United States.

[polichick]

95. imo Newt is a corrupt con man - it's amazing that anyone is still fooled by him.

[Tom Ripley]

142. Agreed. He really does come off like a 19th or early 20th century medicine show

quack full of ballyhoo and bullshit.

[DallasNE]

99. This Makes Sense To People Like Gingrich

Because all regulation is bad to him. Both child labor laws and unions are burdensome regulations in the eyes of those like Gingrich and that is why Gingrich is using this particular linkage, never mind that it doesn't hold water. It's just that Gingrich doesn't have the guts to frame it using the real reason he thinks this is true.

[firehorse]

100. there is a moderate distinction between child labor and kids cleaning their classrooms like they do

in Japan.

Kids clean their schools in japan, but its not like bad or poor kids are singled out. They aren't doing it for money or for punishment. Everyone, everyday from little kids on up who go to school are all responsible for maintaining their school.

They do it because its their place to learn and it teaches them good things such as pride and to care for their school giving them a sense of ownership and responsibility. It's a similar mentality to keeping yourself clean and your home clean. I've always liked the way Japan goes about it. You are not going to see kids doing grafitti or bringing weapons like you do in the U.S. when you grow up in an environment to care for your place of learning.

Gingrich's ideas just seem like they are coming from some distorted place, and more about ripping regulations and stepping on unions toes than from a genuine place of care and respect.

[DallasNE]

119. Newt Is Not Talking About

Keeping the classroom picked up. He is specifically talking about replacing union janitors with children. He would probably demand that the schools pay these children less than minimum wage (another regulation he would like to eliminate). Janitor work can't all be done before and after normal school hours so would he pull these kids out of the classroom for emergency repairs? I do agree with your last paragraph though.

[pbrower2a]

188. OK, a little clean-up

Children do need to learn the virtue of neatness in their environment, so it is reasonable to expect them to pick up their dropped crayons and large pieces of paper. But that is responsibility for what one does.

As a substitute teacher I have been told to refer any gross messes (like vomit, urine, or blood) to the janitor who has some training in potentially-hazardous materials. That is the policy for regular teachers as well. There can be some scary stuff in those messes.

[alittlelark]

101. I assumed this was from The Onion.

Wow.

[gordianot]

103. If he wants to see truly stupid look no further than the Republican field of Presidential candidates

While he is at it he can find truly stupid in the mirror.

[Hubert Flottz]

107. A toxic Newt is the very best that the GOP has to offer.

And I know some republicans who love Newt even more than the love Ann Coulter!

[KansDem]

108. "Strong work ethic?"

:rofl:

The anti-union, pro-Wall Street Republican believes in a "strong work ethic?"

[pbrower2a]

213. Work without pay, of course

Economic elites have almost always sought to inculcate a work ethic without economic rewards. In a perverse parody of Marx' "From each according to his ability and to each according to his needs", they seek to extract as much toil as possible for as little as possible to those who do the work -- and they keep the difference. It's easy enough to figure what the bare needs are -- just to keep people from starving and freezing. But maximal effort? That comes from the lash. Anyone who dissents is cast off to starve slowly or die some horrific death.

Capitalism became humane when capitalists started competing for workers... and found that the best way to prevent a proletarian revolution was to make the proletariat into a market, which takes solid pay and limited hours of toil. But as the capitalists combine to preclude competition, things get dreadful for workers. We begin to see that now. The current economic elites have no virtues and no morals except for fear of their world crashing down upon them. There's nothing to teach them any ethical values. Religion for them is a tool for controlling the proles but not a guide to behavior. They have no problem with war so long as they make the profit and someone else does the dying -- and their assets remain intact.

[and-justice-for-all]

110. holy fuck!!! what a monster...nt

[Arby]

111. Conservatives in the USA

adhere to two guiding principles when promoting their extreme policies:

- Only a crisis -- actual or perceived -- produces real changes. When the crisis occurs, the actions that are taken depend on the ideas that are lying around. That, I believe, is our basic function: to develop alternatives to existing policies to keep them alive and available until the politically impossible becomes politically inevitable." - Milton Friedman

- “We will make it so that a Democrat cannot govern as a Democrat.”
GROVER NORQUIST, 2003, speech at his 25th college reunion

[EC]

112. How about giving that kid's mother or father a good

union janitorial job cleaning the schools so that kid can go to school and onward without having to work at low wage servitude instead?

[Demeter]

113. Headline Edit! Gingrich IDEAS "are truly stupid!"

[jwirr]

114. This is why rethugs love sending their companies to China and other

such nations. Cheap child labor. They are criminals.

[demigoddess]

115. Newt is 'truly stupid'

children should learn about work from their parents, not slave owners.

My first job, at a restaurant paid 50 cents an hour, Newtie.

Those jobs he's talking about should go to adults that need work.

[defendandprotect]

120. Gingrich is one of RW's most adept propagandists ... this is direction they're going in ...

We'd be a much healthier nation -- all of us -- if we took the emphasis off of

dollar bills and got back to concern for human beings ---

and the planet!!


Let's just uninvent the dollar -- and stop judging everything by the yardstick of

a dollar bill!!

[DBoon]

121. This is the end game when public education is eliminated

Children whose parents can't afford private schools will enter the workforce

[LongTomH]

122. That evil bastard couldn't win in a fair election...

OK, anyone remember the last time the GOP even fought fair in a major election?

[DreamSmoker]

124. Just another Brick in the Wall (K&R)

[Nikia]

125. Since unemployment is high, this does not make any sense

Regardless about what anyone thinks about whether or not children should work. It would make more sense to allow their parents to be employed full time at a living wage. If you have almost all employable adults working full time who desire full time employment, employed at a living wage, only then should we be talking about employing younger children.

[valerief]

126. Why not force the very wealthy to clean the schools for nothing to teach them a strong work ethic?

And since they're so rich, they can give money to poor kids. You know, share their wealth.

[ChadwickHenryWard]

127. Evil. Truly evil. n/t

[Akoto]

128. "... get rid of unionized janitors ..."

Unionized janitors. The rest is obviously horrible, but I suspect your motive's right there.

[bengalherder]

129. How the fuck do people like him do that with their mouth?

Palin, Bachmann, Tommy Davis (the spokesman for scientology)...I'm sure there's more...

I've tried doing that with my mouth while looking in the mirror, I seem to lack the muscles, and no one else I know can pull off that pout either.

I suspect it is a warning for all of us who cannot grimace like that that the person who can is selfish, immature, short-sighted and fucking meaner than a shithouse rat.

[mysuzuki2]

130. I keep expecting that Newtie or one of his buddies

to suggest bringing back slavery. I mean, what's next? How low can they go?

[rizlaplus]

131. Why not have the children build the schools?

If anything it shows the Republicans are bereft of ideas that don't have a root in the 19th. century.

[pansypoo53219]

133. the unemployment rate is really over 10% and

he wants to add kids?

[crim son]

134. This guy just misses the point, doesn't he?

We shouldn't have kids living in such poor conditions that they need to work as janitors to help put dinner on the table. I like the idea of a work ethic, but there are other, better ways to instill it.

[Jennicut]

136. Exactly. As a substitute teacher, I come in contact with these types of kids

on a daily basis. Their families are so poor that half the kids in a class don't have a snack packed for them. Sometimes they don't even have a lunch. Their parents need better opportunities, not the kids working when they should be in class or after school studying. Newt is an idiot!

[Hydra]

135. And there you have it

Child slave labor based on your economic caste. A flooded job market with too many people making too little to live on.

As other people have said above, this is the 1%'s utopian vision.

Funny how he didn't even dress it up, huh? Your children are now on the chopping block.

[MaineDem]

137. And some people actually support him to be the next POTUS???

Words totally fail me.

[Amonester]

145. newtistheir#1tearoarist

(A tribute to DUer Swamp Rat.)

[Vinca]

139. Your child, too, can be known as "the little match girl."

:banghead:

[NewJeffCT]

140. and they can replace the illegal immigrants picking fruits & veggies

in California and other places.

[Tom Ripley]

141. Newt = PT Barnum as psychopath

[usrname]

143. For a history professor...

He doesn't seem to know much of history. Child labor laws weren't created in a vacuum by faceless bureaucrats fronting for unions, itching to squeeze every last dime from employers. They were created in response to unending tragedy and misery hoisted on the poor, especially the children of the poor who had no say in how they arrived to their lot in life.

So to suggest that we should eliminate child labor laws sounds rather ignorant of the historical roots of those laws.

[nobodyspecial]

156. It's not ignorance

That's exactly the type of society they want to create. All of these pesky regulations just stand in their way.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

144. Rich one Gingrich

This from a guy who makes his living selling fake awards. Let's not forget all those consulting and lobbying fees for doing absolutely nothing.

[Crowman1979]

147. Newt should be cleaning toilets in a federal prison!

[SoapBox]

148. Oh...My...GAWD! This guy is evil, evil, evil...

My gawd. I'm not even sure what to say or where to start.

Suffice to say...YOU ARE AN ASSHOLE, Newty. WHAT SCUM you are, Newty.

Such a perfect Poster Child for the GOPBagger / T.Hater / Ultra Christian / CONservaturd...and
we see what your "party" supports...

abusing CHILDREN!

Sick!!!!!

...counting down to the flip-flop.

[The Genealogist]

150. Another piece of the New Gilded Age puzzle falls into place

Except this New Gilded Age will make the first one look like a big old socialist utopia. We are pretty far along as it is, this insane idea is just another step closer.

[Javaman]

152. In other news: work houses, company stores and job tests are all the rage again.

jackass.

[Faygo Kid]

153. This is who the Rethuglicans are offering us. Pure hatred.

I'm 60. If he somehow becomes president, I will have to leave this nation. Won't be easy, but no choice.

[KamaAina]

157. Delete "Laws preventing child labor are"

and you'll have an accurate headline. :P

[AllyCat]

158. Cannot even contain my rage at the number of levels this is WRONG!

Kids go to school to LEARN, Newt, not work. Little kids don't need work ethic, they need employed parents who can support them while they LEARN. Not being able to work at the age of 9 is not "entrapment" in poor neighborhoods, living in poverty with no ability for their PARENTS to get out of it is entrapment. ARRRRGGGHHHH!!! That this man is even considered a legitimate candidate for the highest office in the land is mind-boggling to me.

[MarkCharles]

159. What is the youngest age at which a person can be employed?

What is the youngest age at which a person can be employed?
The Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) sets 14 as the minimum age for most non-agricultural work. However, at any age, youth may deliver newspapers; perform in radio, television, movie, or theatrical productions; work in businesses owned by their parents (except in mining, manufacturing or hazardous jobs); and perform babysitting or perform minor chores around a private home. Also, at any age, youth may be employed as homeworkers to gather evergreens and make evergreen wreaths.
Different age requirements apply to the employment of youth in agriculture.
Many states have enacted child labor laws, some of which may have a minimum age for employment which is higher than the FLSA. Where both the FLSA and state child labor laws apply, the higher minimum standard must be obeyed.

[Brigid]

160. Newtie, Newtie, Newtie.

This isn't the nineteenth century. Get a clue.

So now school janitors are to have their jobs threatened by grade-schoolers? Eight-year-olds are to run buffers and scrub toilets? Is that really what you want, Newt? Really? Holy Mother of God. :banghead:

[Hubert Flottz]

161. No, what he'd really like to see is...

http://www.historyplace.com/unitedstates/childlabor/hine-dust.htm

And this...

http://www.historyplace.com/unitedstates/childlabor/

[Brigid]

170. Wow. Cool site.

But those pictures! :cry:

[Hubert Flottz]

185. Sad, but that is exactly the what the Newtcases would like it to be...

like next year.

Even worse conditions for the parents of the kids.

[Initech]

162. They don't care. They don't care. They don't care. They don't care.

[MarkCharles]

164. When and how many hours can youth work?

"When and how many hours can youth work?
Under the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA), the minimum age for employment in non-agricultural employment is 14. Hours worked by 14- and 15-year-olds are limited to:
Non-school hours;
3 hours in a school day;
18 hours in a school week;
8 hours on a non-school day;
40 hours on a non-school week; and
hours between 7 a.m. and 7 p.m. (except from June 1 through Labor Day, when evening hours are extended to 9 p.m.)"


http://www.dol.gov/elaws/faq/esa/flsa/028.htm

[emmadoggy]

165. What a disgusting piece of shit he is.

:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

[nadine_mn]

166. Am I the only also outraged at the "get rid of the unionized janitor"

I think the "let children work" is a smokescreen for his real agenda - get rid of unionized janitor - cuz those unions are so bad.

sigh

its all stupid, just not sure what to be more outraged about

[Historic NY]

167. Put those little buggers to work.......interesting.....

think how much it would save corporate America we could have sub-minimum wages...


1. Missouri state Senator Jane Cunningham has proposed a bill that would “modify” child labor laws, eliminating the prohibition on employment of children under 14.

2. Newly minted Republican Sen. Mike Lee of Utah said in a lecture posted to his YouTube channel that Congressional laws banning child labor are forbidden by the US Constitution.

Congress decided it wanted to prohibit that practice, so it passed a law. No more child labor. The Supreme Court heard a challenge to that law, and the Supreme Court decided a case in 1918 called Hammer v. Dagenhardt,” Lee said. “In that case, the Supreme Court acknowledged something very interesting — that, as reprehensible as child labor is, and as much as it ought to be abandoned — that’s something that has to be done by state legislators, not by Members of Congress.”

Lee’s reasoning was that labor and manufacturing are “by their very nature, local activities” and not “interstate commercial transactions.” He added: “This may sound harsh, but it was designed to be that way. It was designed to be a little bit harsh.”

3. Rep. David Burns, R-Whiting, is sponsoring the bill, which also would eliminate the maximum number of hours a minor over 16 can work during school days.

Burns said the bill empowers both employers and employees and that employers would have more opportunities to hire minors.

“An employer’s got to have employees, so they can decide what they want to pay,” Burns said. “The student wants to have a job, and they can decide what they’re willing to work for.”

[DeSwiss]

169. Well, at least he got the ''truly stupid'' part right. :-/ - K&R n/t

[varelse]

171. Unemployment (the real %) is in the high teens/low twenties

And it's "stupid" to limit the hours that children can work?

[Sarah Ibarruri]

172. To call this man a pig, is an insult to pigs. nt

[Initech]

174. To call him a piece of shit is an insult to, well, shit.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

175. LOL! Yup! nt

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

178. The bacteria that break down excrement would find Gingrich unpalatable

[Initech]

190. LMAO!!!

:rofl:

[StarsInHerHair]

232. he'd gag a maggot

[Marthe48]

173. Family-owned grocery store, working at 8

I went to school, went to the store to work. No allowance. I wasn't abused, but my childhood was sacrificed. When I had my kids, I taught them how to do things and they had some easy chores, but I didn't want them to work, even around the house. Both are college grads in super responsible positions, married and just really good people. Gingrich is an idiot and he doesn't have a clue about real life.

[blue neen]

176. Well, maybe Newtie could tap Tom Corbett to be his running mate.

Their platform: WE REFUSE TO PROTECT CHILDREN!

[grantcart]

177. Moving down the pyramid

First it was the bureacrats in the Education Department that wanted to push same sex agenda.

Then it was local school administrators pushing out prayer.

School teachers were the obvious next target.

Now the janitors are stealing from the kids.

The city trash collectors must be the last target,

[Joe Bacon]

179. Could you imagine what Newt would do with Tiny Tim?

:scared:

[humbled_opinion]

181. Maybe these lazy kids need to...

Walk 10 miles,in the snow to school, too... won't that save the cost of transportation in the school district and think the added bonus is it cuts down on carbon emissions from all the school buses hence preventing global climate change....

Parents just have to make sure them kiddies is up and outtta the house by 3 a.m. so they don't miss the 8 o'clock bell....

:sarcasm: :eyes:

[Ken Burch]

182. Scrubbing toilets is RISING?

:eyes:

(And, funny thing how Newt only suggests this for kids at POOR schools...because, of course, you would never want children of HIS class to have to clean anything...)

Basically, Newt wants to teach poor kids the "three r's"(two of which are actually spelling errors, for the record)and the "K,Y, And P"(Know Your Place).

[Spider Jerusalem]

186. The link between poverty and poor education: school funding from property tax.

I'm not really sure how reinforcing and even encouraging already ugly inequalities is a good thing when there are other solutions to the problem that would have a better result.

[bluerum]

187. Child labor - a virtually untapped source of cheap labor! The man is a genius.

A completely mad, insane, genius who should be locked away.

[MarkCharles]

189. Think of the billions of dollars in taxpayer money we could save if we just..

fired all the public employees and gave the jobs to kids at minimum wage or less!

[UrbScotty]

191. If a Democrat did this, Fox News would be all over them

[PfcHammer]

193. Ketchup is a vegetable. EOM

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

194. Notice that he didn't say the kids would be paid minimum wage

That's because they wouldn't. They'd get paid whatever the school board -- which are being taken over by conservatives -- thought they "deserved." The kids would be lucky to get half minimum wage, and "they should be grateful for that!"

The main point is that it's another union-busting move by a Republican.

[blkmusclmachine]

196. That's what Dominionists believe, as well as the stoning of uncorrigible children.

Alex, I'll take "Christian Dominionism" for 500.

[DissedByBush]

198. Completely aside from this idiot

I do wish there were exceptions.

My 12 year-old really, really wants to work doing a certain job, but the law says no. Funny, if we had a family business doing it she could work.

[Gregorian]

199. Mr. Grinch

You're a mean one, Mister Grinch
You really are a heel,
You're as cuddly as a cactus, you're as charming as an eel, Mister Grinch,

You're a bad banana with a greasy black peel!



You're a monster, Mister Grinch,
Your heart's an empty hole,
Your brain is full of spiders, you've got garlic in your soul, Mister Grinch,

I wouldn't touch you with a thirty-nine-and-a-half foot pole!



You're a vile one, Mister Grinch,
You have termites in your smile,
You have all the tender sweetness of a seasick crocodile, Mister Grinch,

Given a choice between the two of you I'd take the ... seasick crocodile!



You nauseate me, Mister Grinch,
With a nauseous super "naus",
You're a crooked dirty jockey and you drive a crooked hoss, Mister Grinch,

You're a three decker sauerkraut and toadstool sandwich, with arsenic sauce!



You're a foul one, Mister Grinch,
You're a nasty wasty skunk,
Your heart is full of unwashed socks, your soul is full of gunk, Mister Grinch,

The three words that describe you are as follows, and I quote, "Stink, Stank, Stunk!"



You're a rotter, Mister Grinch,
You're the king of sinful sots,
Your heart's a dead tomato splotched with moldy purple spots, Mister Grinch,

Your soul is an appalling dump heap overflowing with the most disgraceful assortment of rubbish imaginable, mangled up in tangled up knots!

[lib2DaBone]

201. So that's the next thing? The Repukes want Child Labor to prop up their empire....?

Conservatives are sick SOB's....

[Glimmer of Hope]

202. I am done with Newt. He is not fun like Cain, Perry et al.

[Moonwalk]

204. So...what jobs did Newt do as a child? And how often has he cleaned toilets?

Just curious. I mean, if he's speaking from experience.... :eyes:

[ChazInAz]

207. Despicable toad

Makes me wonder who did what to him to make him turn out to be such a cruel, cold-hearted person.

[tonekat]

208. "The door of Scrooge's counting-house was open that.....

"...he might keep his eye upon his clerk, who in a dismal little cell beyond, a sort of tank, was copying letters. Scrooge had a very small fire, but the clerk's fire was so very much smaller that it looked like one coal. But he couldn't replenish it, for Scrooge kept the coal-box in his own room; and so surely as the clerk came in with the shovel, the master predicted that it would be necessary for them to part. "

[maddogesq]

226. I was thinking of this when I saw your post.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZrgxHvNNUc

[lovuian]

209. they want us as slaves and child slaves are better

they can't fight back

It is good to see how far they will go

Dickens times

[robinlynne]

210. omg. never thoght I would write omg.

[dash_bannon]

211. I was going to comment but...

The image of Oliver Twist below Gingrich's picture is worth more than a thousand words.

Wow! Could anyone seriously vote for Gingrich?

I'm beginning to think the 2012 election is rigged to guarantee President Obama gets a second term.

[Major Hogwash]

212. Gingrich lies every time he opens his mouth. His 15 minutes of fame was over with in 1998.

His type of bullshit is soooo 90's.

[wakemewhenitsover]

214. A.H. -- your comments on that dick are right on the money.

K&R

[bif]

215. Sounds like Dickens.

And that's pretty sad.

[BillyJack]

216. Oh.my.gosh!!!!

:wtf:

:wow:


:wow:



:wow:


LOSER!!!!!

[jmowreader]

217. I think I've seen where this is leading to...

To Newt, an impoverished healthy child well nursed is, at a year old, a most delicious nourishing and wholesome food, whether stewed, roasted, baked or boiled; and he makes no doubt that it will equally serve in a fricassee, or a ragoust.

Unlike Swift, Newt would actually eat poor people's babies.

[AngryAmish]

220. Both my kids work and they are 3 1/2 years and 10 months

I had a job at 12. Cleaned my school for the last two years after school in order to get 1/2 off tuition.

Uphill, both ways.

[Odin2005]

222. Just go away, Newt!

[dogfacedboy]

223. Note to Newt: Eat a shit sandwich, and contract a fatal disease, you fat fuck.

[yurbud]

224. he is SELLING shit sandwiches and calling them a chocolate cake

[TK421]

227. I want so badly to piss in his mouth n/t

[ellisonz]

228. Ewwwww....

:puke:

[TK421]

229. sorry, but I hate the fucker n/t

[ellisonz]

230. I'm going to hold my mouth right now.

Because the jokes I'd make are just crude. :P

[BootinUp]

231. He can't be serious

just a primary ploy to get the wing nuts attention.

[lunatica]

233. And they can get extra credit plus a little more money cleaning rich kid's schools