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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 11:18 AM
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The Spy Files: WikiLeaks Releases Surveillance Docs
Source: Russia Today

The Spy Files: WikiLeaks releases surveillance docs

Published: 01 December, 2011, 17:27

WikiLeaks has released the first portion of sensitive data revealing a new global surveillance and interception industry spanning 25 countries. Site founder Julian Assange is holding a press conference, revealing the secrets of the industry.

The whistleblowing site has published some 287 documents from its huge database, collected from 160 international intelligence contractors. The database includes internal documents of such companies like Gamma corporation in the UK, Ipoque of Germany, Amesys and Vupen in France, VASTech in South Africa, ZTE Corp in China, Phoenexia in the Czech Republic, SS8 and Blue Coat in the US, among others.

And this was only the first step of the WikiLeaks Spy Files project, established to expose companies, which are making billions of dollars selling sophisticated tracking and surveillance tools. The industry is completely unregulated and modern technology created by commercial companies in developed nations can easily find their way to any country of the world.

According to the leaked data, the devices produced by British, French, South African, and Chinese corporation were used by the regimes of Mubarak in Egypt and Gaddafi in Libya to track and monitor every move of those states’ citizens.

Read more: http://rt.com/news/wikileaks-spyfiles-surveillence-assange-775/
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 11:39 AM
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1. ...not only the middle east i am sure
we are soooo freaking living in Oceana, i cant stand it :(


(yeah, re-read 1984 last night and now every news story looks like we are living in it)
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 12:21 PM
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4. That's a good idea for people who don't believe what is
happening here -- re-read 1984.
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Response Donating Member (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 03:47 PM
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16. No, FirstLight, Minitrue would never lie to any of us.
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dotymed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 08:06 PM
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28. One of our regular posters has something like:
"1984 wasn't supposed to be a blueprint for the future" as his/her signature line. It really does seem that TPTB have used it as their divine inspiration. That book was written in the 1930's. It's as if Orwell had time traveled. We really are fucked.


GO OWS!
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 08:31 PM
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31. It came out in 1948. Orwell was under surveillance himself at the
time. 48. 84.....
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qb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 12:03 PM
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2. The ability to intercept communications undetected... surely our government wouldn't use it on us!
:sarcasm:
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napoleon_in_rags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 09:24 PM
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34. Its not just about the government.
Its about anybody who can afford it. Its about a world that stops innovating because your work is always stolen by the company who can afford to spy on you and steal your work. Its about criminal groups systematically spying on people, testing out psychological conditioning systems to keep them from reporting to police or lawyers to get them under control. Its evil.
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crunch60 Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 01:58 AM
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38. we had to take a "terrorist" class, given by a
a CIA guy, not sure if he was a "ex" agent or not. It was all about their surveillance program, how to spot a terrorist, LOL. what to look for, suspicious activity etc. After it was over, about 3 hrs., we got a certificate saying we took the class- Yes, they are selling these spy programs and making big government $$$. Soon big signs went up at the work place, "See something, say something" making everybody paranoid,spying on each other, creating xenophobia.

Abraxas Application- spy program called Trap Wire--found at abraxasapps.com

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unionworks Donating Member (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 12:18 PM
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3. Thank you Mr. Assange n/t k&r
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 05:42 PM
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24. I'm on the fence about Wikileaks
Ignorance was truly blissful - even tho we all had suspicions. Now the truths revealed are even worse than what we might've guessed.

Anyways - thank you Mr. Assange.... an even bigger tip of the hat to Pvt. Manning. We'd know NONE of this without his brave and selfless acts.
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crunch60 Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 02:08 AM
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39. Bradley Manning was the " alleged" leaker nt
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 10:03 PM
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36. +1000
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 12:23 PM
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5. Recommend. This morning I was thinking I'd love it if WikiLeaks
(and Anonymous) targeted Monsanto and Cargill.
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BridgeTheGap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 12:35 PM
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6. I'm assuming this is, relatively speaking, "old stuff." At what point do the "powers that be" begin
dumping, shielding or setting up new protocols on the transmission of sensitive data? It's got to be on their minds. More power to anonymous!
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 01:11 PM
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8. New protocols don't matter much...
...if there's someone on the inside willing to blow the whistle.

Regardless of how ironclad your encryption and protocols are, you can never discount the actions of an individual who is privy to the information in the first place if that individual wishes to release the information to a wider audience. That's how Wikileaks works, they don't hack in to get the info, they count on whistleblowers to provide it to them.

Obviously the first line of defense would be to limit access to fewer people. I'm sure they are doing that, but really, the standards were pretty lax at least in the case of the info that Bradley Manning (may have) released: even the Iraq forces had access to it.
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 01:06 PM
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7. K&R. nt
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JJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 01:30 PM
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9. If you're alone in the middle of the forest......
Edited on Thu Dec-01-11 01:31 PM by JJW
and say the Governor sucks! Will a predatory drone capture your voice and identify who you are?
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 02:12 PM
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13. most definitely! and you'll be ridiculed on H8 radio and called
a hippie in the making, an anti-american, and whatever sexist names they more than likely called that poor girl just voicing her opinion....



http://www.zazzle.com/gop_2012_keeping_millions_out_of_work_to_put_one_bumper_sticker-128944374900409113?rf=238107662556833486
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 04:03 AM
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42. ... And those spy-drones will soon be insect-size, if you're not already
wearing/carrying them.
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 01:54 PM
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10. I wish I could thank Mr. Assange personally for this. ...
On my way out, but will read the article when I return. Thanks Hissyspit, for posting.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 08:19 AM
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43. +1
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kgnu_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 09:44 AM
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44. You can support his legal defense fund and support Wikileaks
There are many ways to support him. http://shop.wikileaks.org/donate
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 01:55 PM
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11. All I have to say is:
1) Thank God for hackers;
2) Thank God for people exposing the bullshit going on at the top in most countries;
3) Thank God for people finding out about all this crap.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 02:25 PM
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14. The problem is, nobody will DO anything about it.
Not even ~~~Goddy~~~.

They.TPTB.Don't.Care.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 02:32 PM
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15. There's a reason why they're trying to stop this, and it's not because they are in a bad mood...
They're trying to stop this because the spreading of this news (IF the uneducated, uninformed throngs watching reality TV and hanging on every new stupid thing done by the Kardashians ever find out), will create a situation in which politicians agreeing to this crap will be voted out or plain old revolution will break out.

The powers that be don't lie simply because it's a barrel of fun. They lie because they know the population would not tolerate this shit if they really KNEW what was going on.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 05:05 PM
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22. Well, the system is rigged so that we CAN'T vote out the politicians who are agreeing to this crap
and a revolution clearly IS breaking out. But TPTB have been trying to get this revolution to break out for a long time, because it gives them more poisonous toys to play with, and the government passes more and more bullshit laws to extend the heavy hand of the law. Even as we speak they're trying to pass that bill that lets military operatives detain "terrorists" on our own soil, or on anybody else's soil, anywhere they damned well please.

It's a battle the war mongers are trying to push. They figure the sooner they put the free-thinkers in jail, the sooner the jails make money and the sooner people who are more docile will just shut the fuck up.

Things have already hit the fan. The fan just isn't blowing as hard as it could.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 05:57 PM
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25. The system is rigged, but a FAR bigger problem is that people don't even KNOW the system is wrong
If someone doesn't know something, how can they know it?

That's what I like about OWS. It causes people to THINK, people who ordinarily wouldn't think because their brain is filled with images of Jennifer Lopez' jaw, nose, forehead and cheek plastic surgery, with images of only one piece of news circulating 24/7 for 6 months or longer, and with reality shows.

OWS, with their signs, with their message, with their refusal to stop creating civil disobedience and disturbance, are there, taking the message everywhere. The media has found itself forced to report it, despite the fact that the media has been complicit in keeping people dumb as rocks for 3 decades, and it's the ONLY movement I've seen do that in my entire life. I can't think of another movement in this country that has accomplished that, can you?

Yes, the system is rigged, and that's why there's a movement at all. If the system weren't rigged, what would be the need for OWS? There wouldn't be.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-11 09:19 AM
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47. TOTALLY agree. OWS is the beginning of the education process for the masses
who are still following faux news like sheep, and those who are just too lazy to pay attention. It's going to take time, however. And I hope OWS folks don't give up too soon like we did back in the 60's. If we had stuck with our revolution back then, OWS folks would probably not be having as much to try to correct now.
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 09:16 PM
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33. Maybe Wikileaks could catch the government
spying on the Kardashians. Woot!
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 09:33 PM
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35. LOL! nt
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 08:11 PM
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29. Yep. The one thing that may stop all of this right now..
may be WikiLeaks.
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crunch60 Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 02:11 AM
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40. I Thank OWS! everybody, occupy wherever you can. nt
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 02:11 PM
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12. NO ONE is joking when they say, it's fair game to spy the f*ck out everyone you choose if you have
the right equipment and enough money! What thousands are doing around the world is unbelievable!

privacy? LOL........ you must be joking!



http://www.zazzle.com/gop_2012_keeping_millions_out_of_work_to_put_one_bumper_sticker-128944374900409113?rf=238107662556833486
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 04:03 PM
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17. Privacy? been gone for quite some time now...no surprise
here...but glad this was released just to put the nail in our mobile coffins.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 04:14 PM
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18. K&R
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 04:19 PM
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19. ^^^
K&R

RECALL WALKER/KLEEFISCH!!!
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JJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 04:25 PM
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20. If the tin foil hat fits, wear it
Edited on Thu Dec-01-11 04:26 PM by JJW
because anyone who thought; I'm probably being spied on, is most definitely correct.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 05:33 PM
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23. it's a cheap way of keeping out those EMF waves!
:evilgrin:
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 04:06 PM
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45. There is quite a history to it & interested DUers, like yourself JJW, will appreciate the link below
"...In 1967, the Department of Justice instituited the first in a series of secret units designed to collate and evaluate information concerning the growing domestic disorder. After Nixon's election, the Justice Department created new units but the President remained dissatisfied." (p 85)

A Counterintelligence Reader Chapter 2:
Counterintelligence in the Turbulent 1960s and 1970s (The Federation of American Scientists archives)
http://www.fas.org/irp/ops/ci/docs/ci3/ch2.pdf

RECALL WALKER/KLEEFISCH!!!
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 04:45 PM
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21. K&R
Edited on Thu Dec-01-11 04:50 PM by DeSwiss
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hklqkwyISuk">''In all the movies and in the nightmares, the people always start to awaken when their enslavement is obvious to all.''


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2banon Donating Member (794 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 06:27 PM
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26. k/r
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 07:31 PM
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27. I remember when we were all selectively outraged about Valerie Plame.
I can't wait for Fitzmas.
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WHEN CRABS ROAR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 08:30 PM
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30. Will the truth make us free or just paranoid?
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 08:33 PM
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32. A key here is this difference - would the Egyptian government tell the people
that they are only hacking the phones of terrorists? And the information will only be used to follow and capture or intercept terrorism?

That's the lie we get.

And only the naive followers of the right wing (in this country) would believe it.

The goverment hires all of it and the country is poor and we lost rights.

It is good that the same tactics are being used in many countries. Our leaders can't get away with saying that it is only for terrorists.

I hope the documents expose everything. We have documents that say that it is all worldwide.

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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 01:27 AM
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37. Which goes to show
Tin foil hat accusers are either brain dead or agents of intelligence gatherers.

KR!!!
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 02:30 AM
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41. French firm helped Muammar Gaddafi's former Libyan regime spy on Britians
http://www.hindustantimes.com/News-Feed/Technology/Wikileaks-warns-of-massive-Internet-surveillance/Article1-776859.aspx">Wikileaks warns of 'massive internet surveillance'
It had already been revealed that the electronics firm, Amesys, had worked with the Libyan regime -- and French rights groups are attempting to take the group to court -- but Owni's files will prove embarrassing.


They appear to show that a manual provided to Libya to operate a "massive internet surveillance" set-up known as the Eagle system included the email addresses and pseudonyms of opposition leaders.

One of them, 74-year-old writer Mahmud Al-Naku, campaigned against Gaddafi in exile and has now been named his country's ambassador to London by the victorious new former rebel government.

Another figure on the surveillance list was Atia Lawgali, 60, who has since been named Libya's new minister of culture. Several more Libyan and western figures are on the list, contained in a leaked screenshot.


:puke:

Some people supported this and even defended Gadaffi's plans for Africa to control all African telecoms. :puke:
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-11 01:57 AM
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46. K & R
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