Obama agrees with Sebelius on decision to limit morning-after pill

[Freddie Stubbs]

Source: The Hill

President Obama said Thursday that, as the father of two young daughters, he supported his Health secretary’s move to limit access to the morning-after pill.

“I did not get involved in the process, this was a decision of Kathleen Sebelius,” Obama said, referring to the secretary of the Health and Human Services Department.

“I will say this. As the father of two daughters, it makes sense to apply some common sense,” Obama said.

He said Sebelius “could not be confident a 10-year-old or a 11-year-old going to a pharmacy would be able to … buy a medication that could have an adverse effect.”

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/abortion/198147-obama-says-he-agrees-with-morning-after-pill-decision

[rocktivity]

1. An adverse effect -- as opposed to a preganancy, you mean?

:eyes:
rocktivity

[Harmony Blue]

9. Apparently

the effects of pregnancy are acceptable from their point of view. I think they are out of touch with the realities of the year 2011 (soon 2012).

[Freddie Stubbs]

11. But are they in touch with what voters want?

[Lance_Boyle]

44. They are in touch with dodging an issue that would drive right-wing voters to the polls.

As usual, they do not give the tiniest bit of a fuck about the effect of this latest example of their moral cowardice on left-wing voters.

[Freddie Stubbs]

45. Left-wing voters don't have anywhere to go, and Obama knows it

He's aiming for voters in the middle.

[Lance_Boyle]

48. Agreed. But it's not 'voters in the middle' who

would have trudged to the polls dragging their knuckles to vote against the Kenyan Muslim Teen-Sex-Approving Socialist had Sebelius decided differently. That's who this decision was made to appease (appease is actually the wrong word - avoid inflaming is more appropriate).

[Le Taz Hot]

69. Wanna bet?

There ARE more than 2 parties. (NAME REMOVED . . . 5,4,3,2 . . .)

[Freddie Stubbs]

75. Not going to happen. People are smart enough to remember what happened in 2000

[Le Taz Hot]

77. But that wasn't your claim, was it?

You stated people have nowhere else to go. I merely pointed out that they do, indeed, have somewhere else to go.

[Freddie Stubbs]

80. Fine, but they aren't going to go there

[24601]

102. No place to go - as in there ain't nobody worth voting for, so

we stayed home and didn't go anywhere on election day.

[okieinpain]

85. I think it was a very wise decision. n/t.

[Le Taz Hot]

70. I'm guessing that, if polled in 1840,

most Southerners would vote to uphold Slavery too but that didn't make it right or moral. You're (and Obama's) willingness to repress inaliebale rights guaranteed by the Constitution in exchange for political expediency speaks volumes about both of you.

[Freddie Stubbs]

76. So, you are equating children having to get a doctor's prescription with slavery?

[Le Taz Hot]

78. Is there something about inalieable rights

that you're not understanding?

[Freddie Stubbs]

81. When did access to the morning-after pill for kids w/o a prescription become an inalienable right?

[Le Taz Hot]

84. Roe v. Wade. 1973

[roguevalley]

43. fuck obama. coward. bastard. all the unwanted babies. more change to believe in

[Vincardog]

2. So he would rather his daughters become pregnant than use a safe drug to prevent it? What a TOOL

I thought he was smart and truth driven.
I was WRONG

[alp227]

4. I may be a concern troll but do you really trust the for profit pharmaceutical industry

or government? I haven't had time to look over all the evidence. If you had daughters would you allow them to take this pill?

[Vincardog]

12. The industry and the government both said this is safe and effective. This is a POLITICAL decision.

If I had a teenage daughter who was raped or allowed herself to engage in unsafe sexual activity;
You can be dammed sure I would allow her to avail herself of every available remedy,
WOULDN'T YOU?

[hedgehog]

16. Safe and effective when used properly. I think the concern here is that

younger teens will not use this medication properly.

[Vincardog]

19. Your concern is noted. I believe the concern was that of BO trying like a jilted lover to get the

mushy middle to like him. The GOP will never like any black man.
GET OVER IT BO.
If he doesn't quit chasing the RW nutz who will never succumb to his charms he may actually lose to the clown car that is chasing him.
He (Like the RW) will believe (As his commercial says) That it is somehow MY fault and has nothing to do with HIS ACTIONS.

[jeff47]

33. Tylenol will kill you if used improperly, and it's very easy to use improperly

Yet Tylenol and it's generic equivalents are on every store's shelves, were the kiddies can buy it and eat 'em like Pez. 1 bottle of Tylenol will kill an adult. Aspirin and Ibuprofen require multiple bottles to kill an adult, so it's easy to argue that there are "safer" pain relievers.

Plan B requires an enormous number of packages to be lethal. Probably more than the store will have on the shelf.

So unless Obama's about to ban Tylenol, this argument is false.

[xxqqqzme]

58. Am I supposed to believe

a pharmacist will not have instructions on how to take a pill? Oh, pull-eeze. Every time I pick up a prescription it is buried in instructions, warning tabs attached to the vial and a pharmacist asking if I've taken it before.

This has to be the lamest excuse coming from this administration.

[Carolina]

17. Thank you Vincardog

This decision was SOLELY political and it's the kind of political caving I have come to expect from BHO. What a tool.

[Freddie Stubbs]

8. I suppose that he or Michelle would take their daughter to a doctor and get an Rx

[Betty]

3. I suspect most of the young women

who would need this are not 10 and 11, though that can happen. Notice he doesn't way anything about a 16 year old. He uses an extreme example to back up this decision.

And I wonder if it is against the law for under age kids to buy other over the counter meds.

[hedgehog]

5. Can anyone here guarantee that a 10 year old understands how to

use the Morning after pill? I can imagine dumb kids thinking that they need to take it after kissing someone!

[Harmony Blue]

10. There is no guarantee an 18 year old can understand

instructions any better.

[hedgehog]

13. The law has to be written to cover the majority of cases, not the extremes.

In this case, the assumption is that most 18 year olds understand that the Morning After pill is not meant for frequent use. It is, after all, simply a very large dose of the same hormones in birth control pills. Birth control pills are given under prescription because some women shouldn't use them because of the risk of stroke.

[sharp_stick]

15. No but we set certain limits

on behavior in society based on how people of different age groups typically react to situations for their own safety. There are always those on the upslope of a bell curve we can only try to make sure that those in the peak at least are covered.

[okieinpain]

86. sometimes some of the arguments on du are a little crazy. it's like

people are looking for anything to raise hell about. kids have to wait till they are 16 to drive, but you want to give a 16 year access to abortion pills on demand. doesn't make sense to me.

[Vincardog]

14. You put it in your mouth and swallow, is that too difficult for people where you come from?

[sharp_stick]

18. How many of em?

how often? What happens if the kid figures that it's not working so she goes to another pharmacy for a second or third dose?


I'm surprised that you managed to make it to adulthood with that kind of attitude. Clearly you aren't much of an endocrinologist.

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[sharp_stick]

25. No not really

but a kid that's 10, 11 or 12 who's just been assaulted by a "friend" in school might.

Just because you use the 18 year old as an example doesn't mean they're the only ones that can access the drug w/o a prescription Jack.

When you talk about a pediatric population it includes children under the age of 18.

I'm surprised you ever got a second date, maybe you haven't going by the juvenile nature of the replies, but kids can get pregnant at surprisingly young ages.

Apologies for questioning your level of knowledge about endocrinology I didn't realize that middle school "health" is still in the future.

[Vincardog]

27. a kid that's 10, 11 or 12 who's just been assaulted by a "friend" in school should report to the

POLICE and be provided with the Plan B pill anyway.
Why are you so hot to defend this POLITICAL decision by BO?

[sharp_stick]

28. There ya go

we agree... and they would be provided with the pill, there is nothing in the HHS decision banning young girls from getting the pill. The problem being that kids that are assaulted in this way are among the least likely to actually report the assault because they think they'll get in trouble.

In addition kids, especially girls, in the process of undergoing puberty are in greater danger of serious side effects by overdosing on hormones. Hormones generally aren't that dangerous but there is some concern that just a few extra Plan B pills can tip the balance to permanent damage in this case.

[Vincardog]

31. So you are defending BO's POLITICAL decision because of concern that "just a few extra Plan B pills

could hypothetically tip the balance to permanent damage in SOME cases". Reach much?

[sharp_stick]

32. I'm sorry

I'm finding myself unable to convey my meaning to you because you don't seem to be able to see any reason other than a political decision.

And now I'm finding myself no longer giving a shit.

[thesquanderer]

24. You could say the same thing about aspirin.

There are tons of OTC medications that a kid could buy and take too much of. Why single this one out, other than politics?

[sharp_stick]

30. True

although you need a pretty large number of aspirin to do any real damage. A young girl, especially at certain stages of puberty, can show some pretty toxic effects to a hormone overdose and the Plan B pill can overdose a girl in this situation with only a couple of doses.

[Harmony Blue]

22. You are so out of touch

Kids as low as age seven know about sexual activity.

[jeff47]

34. Can you guarantee that a 10 year old understand how to use Tylenol?

I can imagine dumb kids thinking "if two pills make the headache go away in 30 minutes, the whole bottle will make it go away right now".

That, btw, will kill them. Liver transplant in the next 2 days or they go into the ground, and there's not that many livers going around.

On the other hand, taking a unneeded dose of Plan B has minimal side effects. And is definitely not lethal.

[Divernan]

36. Right! They could choke on the water when they swallow it!

[alp227]

6. Bummer. I just emailed the White House via Feminist Majority`

and Obama only concedes. But guess what? If Romney or Gingrich make it to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue the restrictions would be even worse.

[Le Taz Hot]

71. How?

They're not going to outlaw Roe, despite their rhetoric, because it's too useful as a carrot to lure in the fundamenalist crazies. This is an action that would be IDENTICAL to what a Republican president would do. So exactly, how are we better off?

[sharp_stick]

7. Has the drug been tested on pediatric populations?

If not it shouldn't be available to them.

I'm kind of torn on this, I want the drug available but I don't really like the idea of kids self-medicating with stuff that plays with the endocrine system.

[jeff47]

35. Yes, the drug maker tested it on a group of 11 to 16 year olds.

Btw, what exactly do you think most over-the-counter medications do? A huge portion of them "play with the endocrine system". A huge portion of them play with far more complex systems that have far more lethal consequences when used improperly.

[Harmony Blue]

47. Exactly

Once more science and evidence takes a beating.

[FloriTexan]

50. Where/how did they find this many test subjects?!

Did they just advertise for sexually active, possible pregnant girls? Taiwan?

[jeff47]

83. One can test the safety without testing it's birth control efficacy.

In addition, you can give it to a non-sexually-active person and see if it does the same stuff that prevents pregnancy (prevent ovulation, expel uterine lining)

[Jakes Progress]

21. This is the old republican/fundamentalist attitude.

We heard the same thing from them about the pill, about condoms. You know. If they know they can avoid pregnancies, they won't have sex. And having sex is the worst thing in the world.

Problem is that now it is coming from our guys.

[Freddie Stubbs]

23. You still can't get the pill without a prescription

And for good reason, considering the risks involved.

[Divernan]

39. You don't know the difference between a prescription requirement & an age restriction? Sheesh!

Plan B instead will remain behind the pharmacy counter, as it is sold today -- available without a prescription only for those 17 and older who show an ID proving their age.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/12/07/hhs-secretary-sebelius-halts-over-counter-morning-after-pill/#ixzz1fyNp0yan

It's like cigarettes, proof of age is required!

[Freddie Stubbs]

42. I'm quite aware of the difference

And this is nothing like cigarettes. This is like parental notification laws for an abortion.

[Jakes Progress]

61. And just what does that have to do with my post?

I didn't say you could. Please show me where that was the point of my post. Maybe you are replying to the wrong post. Surely you wouldn't be just trying to change the subject and avoid the obvious problems with this action.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

62. ***crickets***

[Le Taz Hot]

72. . . .

:rofl: Seriously, dude. This is the first time I've seen this graphic. THAT is hysterical.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

74. Before you ask. Yes I'm a disgusting person.

:evilgrin:

[krabigirl]

79. The establishment sucks, period.

[Lance_Boyle]

26. I suspected as much.

“I did not get involved in the process, this was a decision of Kathleen Sebelius”

Sebelius is hiding behind a pretty weak argument about safety in young teens. "Kids might just take 'em like candy if they can get them OTC, and we have no data on the safety of such abuse of this pill." Well, are 17-year olds taking them like candy? Are 11-year olds likely to have the financial resources to purchase these pills several times per week or more?

I may be assuming a bit about Sebelius's motives here but I strongly suspect she would have reached a different decision in about 11 months' time... after the election.

[alp227]

29. more in depth article by Washington Post

"Obama defends administration’s refusal to relax Plan B restrictions":

Susan F. Wood of George Washington University, who resigned from the FDA in 2005 because of delays by the George W. Bush administration in relaxing restrictions on Plan B, said she was “beyond stunned” by the decision.

“There is no rationale that can justify HHS reaching in and overturning the FDA on the decision about this safe and effective contraception,” Wood said. “I never thought I’d see this happen again.”

Opponents of easier access, meanwhile, hailed the decision, saying relaxing the rules would have exposed girls and women to risks from taking high doses of a potent hormone and misusing the medication; interfered with parents’ ability to monitor their children; and made it easier for men to prey on vulnerable minors.

Plan B has long been controversial and was the focus of one of the most contentious health disputes during the Bush administration. It works primarily by preventing an egg from being fertilized. But critics focus on the chance that it might prevent a very early embryo from implanting in the womb, an action they consider equivalent to an abortion. As a result, some doctors refuse to write prescriptions for it, some pharmacists refuse to fill requests, and some hospitals refuse to provide it to patients.

Wednesday’s decision came as the administration is trying to defuse rising tensions with the Catholic Church over several issues, including a proposed mandate that private insurers provide women with contraceptives for free and a federal denial of an anti-human-trafficking grant to the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops.

You know what? This is why we REALLY need separation of church and state. If religious leaders really had any strength they would stop whining to the government all the time for help in getting their agenda out.

[jeff47]

37. "separation of government and state" - methinks you have a typo. (nt)

[alp227]

38. fixed

[deacon]

40. I agree with the decision too. n/t

[Shoe Horn]

41. "We, the undersigned, pledge to break the law by giving our Morning After Pill..

...to a friend."
http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/dailys/04/aug04/082604/01p-0075-c002022-01-vol289.pdf


And the main search page for the FDA.
http://google2.fda.gov/search?q=Plan+B&x=0&y=0&client=FDAgov&lr=&proxystylesheet=FDAgov&output=xml_no_dtd&getfields=&sort=date%3AD%3AL%3Ad1&entqr=3&entqrm=0&oe=UTF-8&ie=UTF-8&ud=1&site=FDAgov&btnG=Search


What can I say? I trust the scientists at the FDA. Obama should, too.
But, hopefully they'll write another law??

[progressoid]

46. Ugh.

[FloriTexan]

49. I believe this could be abused by some minors...

In the mid-1970's my best friend in highschool got pregnant 3 times by the same boyfriend before she turned 18. She aborted them all. The babies nor the procedures meant nothing to her. They were barely a blip on her radar. Her parents never knew about any of them. It was a classic case of using abortion as birth control.

Today, teens are having sex at even younger ages. They are having all kinds of sex, group sex, oral sex, its nothing to them and far more condoned by their peers. For many of them, I suspect that knowing this pill was available would only encourage more promiscuity. Parental notification for minors is not a bad thing. Intervention by a parent may be just was is needed for these girls to prevent disease or stop an abusive relationship.

Regardless, I'm sure minors would still be able to find some way around the parental notification problem.

[Fumesucker]

51. But then sometimes it's the parent that's responsible for the pregnancy in the first place..

What then?

:shrug:

[FloriTexan]

53. That's another problem altogether.

I would hope, that depending on the girl's age, that someone in the process of prescribing or approving the pill for her would red flag and report to child protective services, and in that case, requiring the parental notification still wouldn't be a bad thing.

[Fumesucker]

54. Two words..

Jerry Sandusky..

How many kids did he rape before anyone said anything?

[loyalsister]

101. Nothing says that a parent has to buy it for them

I oppose parent notification laws. But, I think that it would be appropriate for a much younger girl to discuss the situation with an adult- or young adult preferably female. If not mother- aunt, sibling, friend, etc who has more experience.

[HockeyMom]

52. I cannot take an adult dosage of Tylenol

because I am only 100 lbs. I take "children's" dosage of OTC meds. It took me many years, and adverse reactions, to learn this. Hell, I have had DOCTORS over medicate me as an adult. It's your SIZE not your AGE that determines the dosage. Don't have a medical degree but life experience has taught me that.

While I don't like the religious undercurrents of objections to Plan B, I can understand the need for SOME oversight on this. I also had problems taking the pill decades ago. Trial and Error. I couldn't the combination pill (bleeding) because of the estrogen. I took the mini pill. NOBODY can know THAT, not even doctors, until you have a reaction to it. I would hope a licensed pharmacist, non-religious one, would be the best person to dispense these to VERY YOUNG girls. I did take the pill when I was 10 for amenorrhea and had a bad reaction to it, but again, even a doctor cannot know this beforehand. SOME women WILL have reactions, but that doesn't mean ALL women will and that we should go overboard because of the few. Greater good applies.

[Bogart]

55. Common sense prevails...

[wordpix]

56. you need to meet some teens who are pregnant with no skills, no hs diplomas

and you'll see how much "common sense" it makes to keep this pill off the counter.

Take a trip to your inner city low income areas where there is high unemployment, high crime, high drug use. Get back to me after you visit awhile and let me know how much "common sense" it is to ensure low skill girls ages 12-16, from low income families, will remain pregnant.

[Bogart]

57. I have yet to hear anyone make a logical argument for governments to sweep away parental rights

and assume control for making the decisions that affect minor children.

November 29, 1937, Wadenberg, Germany - A court has taken parents away from their children because they refused to teach them Nazi ideology...The court accused them of creating an environment where the children would grow up 'enemies of the state.' The children were delivered into the state's care.

[Fumesucker]

59. Welcome to DU..

Most people wait a bit longer before they go full metal Godwin on a thread about birth control.

Auf weidersehen..

:hi:

[Bogart]

67. Übertriebene auf den Punkt zu machen

[Fumesucker]

68. Ja, genau.

;)

:hi:

[wordpix]

60. parental rights I'm for but some parents don't act responsibly--cases in point:

I teach teens in an area of high unemployment, poverty, and low skills in the inner city. I've got kids I care about whose parents are drunks, they smoke crack in front of the kids, they take the kids' money and don't give the kids a bed or a mattress, they don't care if their 12 y.o. daughter skips school and has a line of boys out the door to see her, they ridicule their kids who are trying to stay in school and learn, the fathers beat the mothers, one parent tried to commit suicide in the home and the boy had to cut him down from the rope, one boy resorts to fighting (like cockfighting, only with young men) to make money to eat, some truants have ZERO high school credits at age 18, and there are LOTS of girls walking around pregnant with no skills, no boyfriend, no diploma, as young as 12 and 13...ALL these are true stories.

You're all for parental rights but some of these parents have poor decision-making abilities that are worse than their kids'. If Plan B is safe, put it on the shelf.

[Bogart]

65. "If Plan B is safe, put it on the shelf."

I agree--for women (>18), but not for children (<18).

Also...in the scenario you described above, would it not be necessary for this hypothetical child to engage in some sort of inappropriate behavior in order ensure that Plan B is a profitable endeavor for Teva Pharmaceuticals?

Finally, the fact that some parents behave in an irresponsible manner is not a valid justification for abridging the rights of all.

[wordpix]

94. OK, YOU pay for the kids born to irresponsible teenage girls living with irresponsible parents

Let me guess----you don't want to shell out those billion$ to raise the kids properly and give them what they need when their parents can't or won't? Tough--- you'll have a lifetime of shelling out b/c often these poor children are often unproductive and low-skilled by the end of high school, and/or end up in jail. Not all, but many.

[wordpix]

63. hyperbole, much? We're talking about a safe drug & you bring up Nazi Germany?

:crazy: geesh, you're not looking smart with that analogy

[Bogart]

66. Sometimes it is necessary to exaggerate to make a point.

[wordpix]

93. however, in this case it makes your argument look ridiculous

[Humanist_Activist]

88. Parent's rights only extend as far as it doesn't endanger their child's health and welfare....

the example you provided is an example of overreach, which is NOT what this thread is about.

[Bogart]

89. Indeed, I exaggerated. However, the state and Teva Pharmaceuticals do not have the right

to strip responsible parents of their rights, simply because a small segment of the population is irresponsible.

That IS what this issue is about.

[Humanist_Activist]

90. What rights are those, the right to deny their child health care? The right to violate their...

child's right to privacy? Really, tell me what rights you are talking about here.

[Bogart]

91. As minors, by law, children do not have the autonomy, or the right

to make decisions for themselves in any known jurisdiction on this planet. While it may not be clear to you, most rational people understand that children do not have the intelligence, experience, or emotional development necessary to make their own choices, independent of their parents.

The "caretaker" view of children's rights was articulated by John Locke. According to Locke, all humans are "born infants, weak and helpless, without knowledge or understanding." Therefore, parents were "by the law of Nature, under an obligation to preserve, nourish, and educate the children they had begotten."

Thus, children have what are known as "dependency rights" rights--as dependents, they will be provided with what is required to ensure that they grow and develop into healthy and functioning adults. According to most state laws, upon reaching the age of 18, children become, and are endowed with the rights of adults.

I am very troubled by the fact that so many people hold statist views that you espouse...very troubled.

[Humanist_Activist]

92. Statist, what are you, a dumbass Libertarian?

See its that whole "developed into healthy and functioning adults" issue. Put simply, parents may fail in this responsibility, and its our job as a society to ensure that children are protected, even from their own parents.

[Bogart]

97. I agree with your premise that a responsible society must have the means to protect children

from irresponsible parents. However, a wise policy should focus on the irresponsible behavior of the few, rather than casting a net of control over everyone.

If protecting the rights of parents from the transgressions of pharmaceutical companies and states is something that you classify as "libertarian," so be it.

[Occulus]

98. "a wise policy should focus on the irresponsible behavior of the few"

The child may be carrying the child of her father.

And that's your "few".

[Humanist_Activist]

100. How is it supposed to focus on the few, we aren't psychic...

you write laws to cover everyone by default so that those few irresponsible ones would be the ones affected the most. For example, its against the law to murder people for everybody, but only those who actually commit murder would face this law and the consequences later. You can't have laws that "focus on the few", that's simply impossible.

[wordpix]

95. "children do not have the intelligence, experience..." & therefore they must bear children?

Take your pick: the unintelligent, inexperienced child gets pregnant as an 11-16 y.o. If the parent does not know/do anything about it/is a religious fanatic, the child will have to bear the child and become a young mother, most probably unemployed and on welfare due to a lack of skills and lack of money for child care.

Or, the newly pregnant girl is free to get Plan B, a safe, FDA approved drug, off the shelf.

I know what my preference is. And having taught in a school where "surprise" pregnancies are common, I can only tell you that most of the girls I know who get pregnant and have babies are low-skilled kids without a boyfriend, hs diploma, or prospects. Their babies are doomed from the start. Yes, there are exceptions---I know one girl living with her grandparents and they helped her out, along with her ex-boyfriend and his family. But most of these girls will continue to have major problems as young mothers, and their babies will be raised in poverty and ignorance.

[Bogart]

99. "Or, the newly pregnant girl is free to get Plan B, a safe, FDA approved drug, off the shelf."

In all likelihood, "the newly pregnant girl" will not have the means to acquire Plan B. Let me guess: The state will pay for it--right? And let me venture another guess: Teva Pharmaceuticals' campaign $$$ is the ultimate driving force behind all of this.

[wordpix]

103. you're concerned with the cost of an over the counter drug but not of supporting a child for 18 yrs?

"The state will pay for it "---I'd rather the state pay for that than 18 yrs. of a child brought up by a teenage mother with no skills living in poverty.

No doubt there's a pharma corp. behind this but that doesn't mean Plan B should not be available to 12-16 y.o's who stupidly get pregnant.

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[Le Taz Hot]

73. . . .

:cry: :hug: Your input is vitally important on this topic.

[truebrit71]

82. God-fucking-dammit!!! When will this guy get a clue...

I am sooooooooooooo done with this bullshit kow-towing to the religious-right fundie asswipes that won't vote for him anyway "nuanced" ninth-level Ninja-Chess bullshit...:grr:

Supported the banks, big oil, big pharma, fucked the poor in the NE with their heating oil assistance, fucked the environment too many times to mention, supports nukes and 'clean coal' (whatever the fuck that is), doesn't have the balls to tax the rich back into the stone age, and now he decides to side with this decision...

Un-fucking-believable...

Hope and change? My arse, I've got a bridge to sell ya...

[KamaAina]

87. Is he entering the repuke primary?!

He said Sebelius “could not be confident a 10-year-old or a 11-year-old going to a pharmacy would be able to … buy a medication that could have an adverse effect.”

What in Hell would a 10- or 11-year-old be doing buying Plan B?! :dunce:

[BlueIris]

96. Awful. This will create more unintended pregnancy and nothing more.

And to rationalize it as an action motivated by "common sense," as opposed to pathetic attempts to score bonus points with conservatives and the anti-choice is sad. Really, really sad.

[femrap]

104. As a dude, the prez should

just STFU. Michelle might feel differently.

[wordpix]

105. unfortunately, it's the men in positions of power - just look at the presidents, Congress

CEO's, etc. Not many women there and that's the problem.

[femrap]

106. Did you know that OWS

wants to have a 'Congressional Meeting' this summer. They want a male AND FEMALE from each Congressional District. Isn't that cool?

The Political World desperately needs women. DESPERATELY. But try to convince da boyz.

I'm writing 51 Reps/Senators in Ohio who are ready to pass HB 125....the most hideous law in the nation against CHOICE. Rape and Incest...no reason for an abortion. It's sickening.

I ran out of stamps...I'll finish up tomorrow. 32 more to do. I'm using quite colorful language and illustrations w/ stickers!!!!

I feel hope w/ OWS...they stopped the West Coast Ports today....good for them! Like we need more crap from China..I don't buy it unless I absolutely have to.

Thank you for your response.