NBC 11 SF reports Arnold Schwarzennegar IS running

[Outvoicer]

... apparently he just said so on Jay Leno! ???

[chomskyite2]

1. maybe the sudden change is to get attention?

just a guess.

[Pale_Rider]

66. "for his recently released movie?"

My family is now especially boycotting his movie (at least until after the election). No bucks for Republican Arnie.

[JackSwift]

2. Just a joke probably

.

[short bus president]

6. CNN now reporting it

he said it during today's taping of tonight's Late Night.

And right after Feinstein rules out a run, too. I'm afraid the Dems will need to field a stronger candidate than Davis to overcome the name recognition factor with Ah-nuld.

[Outvoicer]

3. Yep, he' s running ...

Said on the Tonight Show:

"I decided that California is in a disastrous situation right now."

... and having him as Governor would not be a disaster, why?

[comsymp]

5. Per CNN Crawler also

[short bus president]

7. per Jerry Springer on Crossfire today:

(host) "Do you believe that Arnold is less qualified to serve as Governor of CA than a professional politician like Gray Davis?"

<long, long pause>

(Springer) "Yes."

[are_we_united_yet]

60. My sentiments as well

How is Arnie qualified to govern California out of that mess?
What is his political experience?

[karlschneider]

4. CNN reporting also that he is...........

jeezusfuckinchrist.......
:grr:
:puke:

[joeybee12]

10. He's an idiot!

He will not win, and if he does, it will be with 30% of the vote--hardly makes him legitimate. If he loses, he'll be remembered as the guy who blew it--say good-bye to her political career, like he should say good-bye to his floundering acting career.

[Terwilliger]

8. why would everybody else say he isn't running?

channel 11 is the NBC outlet in the Bay Area...they dont want to kill the hype surrounding Jay's show

[PartyPooper]

9. MSNBC just reported that Arnold is running!

:-(

[TankLV]

40. Just heard it on NPR - 6pm PDT

nt

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

11. "It's not a rumor."

[Dookus]

15. Wheeee!

There's more than enough dirt on Ah-nuld and Davis isn't gonna be shy about using it.

I'll look forward to seeing this freak get trashed publicly.

[Jen]

21. Arnold will be entertaining

Davis has messed up the state so bad, anyone who takes over for him is going to have a nightmare term. But at least Arnie will be more interesting than Kobe.

[Pale_Rider]

64. How did Davis mess up California?

Let's see ... as I recall Bill Maher recently recounted ...

Davis caused energy deregulation in California and the energy crisis, and consequently caused Enron, El Paso, Duke, etc. to make big bucks.

Davis caused the dot-com bust.

Davis caused the war in Iraq.

Davis is now causing war in North Korea. IMHO.

[EOTE]

48. Hehehe....

[SoCalDem]

12. oopsie dupe-sie

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=54620&mesg_id=54620

[realFedUp]

13. guess he doesn't mind his private life looked at...

another pig at the trough.

[mbee]

35. Hopefully Flint will take care of this!

The hypocricy needs to be exposed and, hopefully, will be!

[realFedUp]

36. ooo, that's right, Flynt's in motion....

this whole thing can't be scripted...

[NashVegas]

56. LMAO - I Can SEE His Campaign!

"Who would you rather have as governor - the nude model, or the guy who runs the business?"

[annagull]

69. Crisco, that is too funny!

This is getting really trippy--you've got the son of a nazi porno star against a smut king free speech icon--I guess this is Hollywood.?

[Emboldened Chimp]

14. Why????

This ass has NO experience running anything. What the hell can he do to fix things? Nothing, imho.

I hope Davis hammers him on his shady past, drugs, hookers, and all.

[PartyPooper]

16. Now we have Kobe, Laci, and Arnie!!! Non-stop press coverage!

And, Shrub loves it! A HUGE distraction from the REAL issues facing Americans!

[Trek234]

32. Rove probably gave arnold a call

Well, not really. But wouldn't surprise me.

[PartyPooper]

42. I'm sure Rove had a hand in this!

The media have been covering the Scott Peterson and Kobe Bryant stories ad nauseum!

Rove is no fool! Placing Arnold into play in this recall is a GOP home run of mass distraction! These 3 stories will dominate the air waves for the foreseeable future...and, nothing else!

So, Bush gets another pass, and the GOP is (likely) to steal another election! And, a sitting GOP governor in California will help Bush in the presidential election next year! Remember, the Dems cannot win the 2004 election without California!


:dem:

[demnan]

17. What a media farse this has become and well it should be . . .

any intelligent person should now realize that the recall is a circus of the most insane carnival kind. I'm kinda glad - because if no one had challenged that Republican shithead who started all this it might have looked like a legitimate attempt to govern, but now even the most intellectually challenged must realize that this is just an attempt to preempt a legitmate government.

Larryn Flynt, Gov, California, Yeah! <yes sarcasm>

[babzilla]

19. it may be an insane carnival

but at least...http://home7.swipnet.se/~w-72369/tumor.wav

[TacticalPeek]

18. I hope some freeper jerk tries to smooth over Ahnuld's nazi heritage

by pointing out aWol's. He's ok...he's ok.

[DavidDvorkin]

20. Arnold does not have a Nazi heritage

He is not his father.

Come on, guys. Attack his politics but not his ancestry. Nor his accent nor his muscles. He's not at all stupid, and he's not a neocon troglodyte either.



http://www.dvorkin.com

[TacticalPeek]

23. Like, we fight under Marquis of Queensbury rules

against an opponent using velociraptor rules?

I'd need a good reason to go that way, and don't have one at hand.

[demnan]

26. David, I agree with what you have said.

you are right. There is plenty to say about this guy without getting into his Austrian heritage.

1. He's never run for any public office before, not even City Councilman.

2. What is his agenda for the state? Does anyone know? Has he said publically what would make the citizens of California choose him?

3. Who supports him in this effort? Companies? Local groups? Californians should know.

[DavidDvorkin]

27. demnan, you're on target

Those are three very good questions, and that's what Democrats should be asking Arnold in the campaign.



http://www.dvorkin.com

[revree]

41. Then why did he meet with Karl Rove?

[shanti]

49. whatever

he does NOT deserve to sit in the governor's office!

[demdave]

22. Underestimating Bush is how we lost in 2000

Trying to tie Arnie to nazi's will backfire. Playing the Hitler card may be cute but it doesn't play in Peoria....or in this case Pasadena. I also find that few people care about a young actor being in racy movies and alledgedly doing coke. (not my rumors..heard them here)

I agree with DavidD, we need to exploit the fact that he has no experience or policies. Otherwise name and reputation will will the day for him.

[FredScuttle]

24. Two words

Freak. Show.

[CityDem]

25. Arnold waited for DiFi to announce

If Feinstein runs, she wins hands down. Without someone like DiFi in the race, Arnold will have the highest name recognition. I believe he will most likely become the next govoner of the state of California.

We need to recognize that Davis is toast. Very few people I talk to in Cali (most progressives) like the guy. We need to run an alternative candidate or we will end up with a repub gov.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

37. We can't let the Repug's get this!!!

DAMN!!!!!!!!!! Conservatives love to trash Hollywood as being immoral. Why is it that they are now ignoring it. Sounds like hypocracy doesn't it.

[KamaAina]

28. Campaign ad: "Reagan was a better actor..."

"(insert candidate here) will be a better Governor."

[CO Liberal]

46. Come On Now - Have You Ever SEEN Any of Reagan's Movies?

Reagan was as bad an actor as he was a leader and father. He sucked at EVERYTHING.

[SaveElmer]

29. Blessing in Disguise ?

In purely cold political terms, this could be a blessing for the Democrats.

California is in crappy shape financially. While Gray Davis is not the most imaginative politician in the world, the condition of the finances is more due to Proposition 13 and other circumstances beyond his control, than to any failure on his part. Arnold is a neophyte, he has never run anything more than his mouth. Given that the state is a disaster financially anyway, and is not likely to improve no matter who is in there...it might be better for the Democrats in the long run for a bumbler like Arnold to be in there when it happens. It could hand the state to the Democrats as far as the eye can see.

[aquart]

58. Gosh, honey. What will be left to hand over?

Did you vote green? You sound like Ralph.

[maggrwaggr]

30. Worst accent? Arnold or Arianna?

Just like LA, everybody's got an accent

[Snellius]

31. I almost hope he wins.

The more fools that join the Republican circus the quicker the audience will realize that they're being entertained by a bunch of clowns. Stupid is stupid. Turn California into a national laughingstock just like the bozo from Texas has done to the role of America in the world.

[Julien Sorel]

43. Seriously, there is another thread attacking the

qualifications of people who have run successful businesses, and there are people here who have attacked Clark because he has 'only' proven himself a success in the military. What has Arnold done? Even Reagan had been president of SAG before he became a governor. This sets an awful precedent, or perhaps, considering Ventura, supports an awful precedent. I actually like Arnold for his drive, and think he'd be a moderate, but I think it's a dangerous gamble for the state of California to make him governor. This, the Gary Coleman foolishness, all of it underscores how destructive the entire recall is.

[shanti]

51. i agree with you

the 60 mil that this recall farce is going to cost the state is repukes driving the stake in our heart. next year's budget will be worse than this ones. they meant to destroy california and by GOD, they have.

as a native californian for 48 years, i weep....and not just for the looming loss of my JOB!

[bluestateguy]

33. What skeletons will come out first?

Adultery? Crime? Take your pick.

[TankLV]

44. Porno pics! I've got some of him!

Should be a very revealing candidacy!

[NickB79]

34. California's gonna get its own version of MN's Jesse Ventura!

Remember his campaign, because we will probably see the same thing happen in Cali as happened here in MN. NO ONE thought Ventura stood a chance, but he used his ex-WWF wrestler fame to capture the young voters, especially college students. Young Californians will likely eat Arnold up because "its cool to have a movie star governor." Hell, I wouldn't be surprised to see Ventura at a fundraiser or two for Arnold out there; they are pretty good friends and were in a few movies together.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

38. Don't get mad but...

I understand the Two Party system. If Ventura was all it had to offer then we are better off with the TWO Parties!

[Gin]

39. Hey Willy Brown.....get your recall ready in case Muscle boy wins.

I am personally saddened by all of this.

[NickB79]

68. Oh, I agree

I was NOT in favor of Ventura when he ran. But, considering what we have now (Coleman), looking back he wasn't such a bad guy in comparison. Funny how hindsight is like that.

[shanti]

52. sadly

i agree...

[ewagner]

45. This is a complete farce

The funny thing is that Issa, who opened up the gates of this hell, is likely to get his ass kicked and will have spent Millions $$$$ for nothing. Ironic.

[juajen]

54. I'm not sure it's his money

He could be a dupe for the neo-cons. This is fishy, fishy, fishy. Even an ineffective governor can buy a lot of voting machines.

[tjdee]

47. I was totally wrong. Maria? Maria?

What the hell just happened?

Didn't Arnold's people just say he WASN'T running?

Maria Shriver, what are you thinking, LOL??

[PROGRESSIVE1]

50. NOTE:

I am sick and tired of Jay Leno. He is a right wing whore all the way. All he does is shrill for the Repugs and bash Clinton even though he is out of office!

[Emboldened Chimp]

53. I think he knew he'd run all along

Rove probably had his hand in this: get people guessing whether or not he'll run, plant a story saying he won't, then steal the headlines when he announces he will. Classic Rove.

The puke party will now throw all its weight behind Ah-nold, because they want CA's 54 electoral votes. How getting him in power accomplishes this is beyond me. Last time I looked, the legislature was all Democrats. They're not going to be happy with an unproven puke grabbing power in a recall. He won't get anything passed.

[Zorro]

55. Arnold shows he's not too bright after all

This isn't a movie.

Why would someone with his bank account want this job? Well, it's not that he's concerned about the welfare of California. It's about his ego.

I notice there's a lot of caterwauling on this board about Davis and how he's going down.

I personally think Davis is going to win the recall. He's not even begun to campaign, and I'm sure he's going to excoriate the Bush administration when he does. He will focus his attacks not on the other anklebiters; it's going to be Davis vs. Bush.

[DemonFighterLives]

57. That would be great Zorro

Take on the whole regime.
CA better be careful what they wish for. Jesse Ventura was a novelty for MN and when it is all said and done, there were no major accomplishments and the state is now in a big hole. Partly thanks to his tax rebate checks. Then he picked up his toys and went home, leaving us to flounder.

[Kool Kitty]

59. What is his big plan to save California's economy?

Does he even have a platform, or is it just a publicity stunt? This is pathetic. Suddenly, the republicans don't have a problem with Hollywood?

[Pale_Rider]

65. There is no plan ....

.... since there's still big money to be milked from the state in transferring cash and jobs to Texas.

[Algorem]

61. Orange-haired,stiff-walking doofus.

Very goobernatorial fer sher.

[pfitz59]

62. Conan conquers Kalifornia!

News at 11!

[snooper2]

63. The idiot...

is talking right now on CSPAN1....Why has the U.S.A. come to this point....sad....

[tlb]

67. I've posted for months now it was foolish startegy to say Davis or nothing

Ready to believe me now ?

Arnold will win. The Ca party had all the time it needed to present a viable alternative to Davis, Leon Panetta comes to mind.
I think it's too late now. Any significant break from Davis now will simply look like panic. Panic doesn't win.

How did it become a matter of dogma that Davis had to be defended to the last man like the Alamo ? It was OBVIOUS he had failed as governor and had lost the support of Californians. A governor with 20 % ratings is untenable when facing a well fiannced recall campaign in a state with a long history of recall ateempts. What total arrogance to ignore the revulsion against Davis when there were winnable options.

California isn't being lost or stolen, it's being thrown away.

[annagull]

71. tlb, don't throw in the towel yet

would it have been better politics to throw Davis overboard after he won the election? You throw those guys weakness and they feed on it for months. Gray is a Vietnam Vet who has won many elections, let him make his case. We got a while until October, and if everything is still downhill from there, this is the land of celebrity--I'm sure there will be a Democratic superstar to step up. Meanwhile--Gray needs to make his case, and I can't believe the Democratic party left him to the wolves after Enron. What, were they on vacation? Enron was hay, Political Hay, but they left Gray to twist all alone. We need to reconsider our party leadership if this is how we treat victims of powerhouses like Enron.

[Chomskyite]

70. Any chance of another Republican coming in and splitting the vote?

Suppose if Riordan came in too? Or some other Repub? Any chance they could prevent Arnold's getting over 50 percent?

Or does the plurality win?

[annagull]

72. We don't know yet

Riordan is probably out since he is a moderate like "Ah-nuld" suposedly is. But, Darryl Issa funded this whole fiasco in the hopes of being Governor--he's got a campaign office and everything. Problem is he's a total right winger who could never win. So the stupid dope just spent a fortune getting another man elected (maybe) who doesn't even share his ideology on abortion, gay marriage, everything execpt tax cuts.