GOP has Soros in its sights

[Renew Deal]

June 3, 2004 -- WASHINGTON — Republicans launched an attack on billionaire financier and anti-Bush fanatic George Soros, mocking him as the "Lord of the Democrats" and outlining a plan to rip his out-of-the-mainstream views.
In a memo e-mailed to GOP congressmen and staffers, the Republican National Committee called Soros the "Daddy Warbucks" of the Democratic party and noted his support for legalizing some drugs.

The Republican lawmakers are encouraged to use "floor speeches" and other opportunities to blast Soros, who has given millions of dollars to various groups to help defeat President Bush.

Soros has said in interviews that he has concluded that ousting Bush is the most important thing he can do with his life.

The RNC memo also includes snippets of several Soros interviews and stories, including a 2002 interview where he said: "I have had these illusions, or perhaps delusions, of grandeur and they have driven me."
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http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/22241.htm

WARNING: NY Post is a riech wing rag.

[D-Notice]

1. Otherwise

We all know the best way to stop someone supporting - label them a paedophile!

How long til this crops up?

[Just Me]

16. Hi Ya' "english guy"!!!

:hi:

Welcome to DU!!! :bounce:

[jukes]

36. Hi, EG!

:hi:



soros better be having his lear checked frequently!

[rooboy]

2. Soros is a private citizen. If the RNC wants to waste its time and money..

then I suggest they go for it.

[StClone]

4. What scares these Cons

Are rich liberals with tempers.

[DBoon]

12. Exactly the point

The RNC does not believe private citizens have rights. "How dare this man oppose us"

[oneighty]

3. Money trumps

in this case.

180

[Just Me]

5. How's about "Lord of Democracy" unlike the GOP.

Screw the right-wing elitists who suck the very life out of our constitution and every admirable principle and quality upon which this country's foundation is built.

They are worse than predators, they are like a consuming disease.

[thebaghwan]

6. They will smear Soros something fierce. Welcome English Guy!!

n/t

[Bandit]

24. I'm not sure if I were them I would want to start a war with a billionaire

It is one thing for the RNC to come out with a memo but any person that steps forward to bash Soros will certainly make themselves a target. A billionaire has lots of resources at his disposal. He could take it upon himself to target each individual one of them with campaign monies and influence.

[amber dog democrat]

7. They are preaching to their own choir

All this might do is rile up their own base supporters. By the way, I just love watching the Chimp run against himself. They can't do anything right.

[snippy]

21. Exactly.

It is a sign of weakness to be appealing to the base at this stage of the campaign. They probably are doing it in the hopes of winning on turnout.

[THUNDER HANDS]

8. well this should be a good indication

of just how much they fear this Soros guy. Giving floor speeches on a private citizen???

Good use of taxpayer dollars there.

[LTR]

9. Soros has more credibiltiy than some of the GOP sugar daddies

Sciafe - Prints lies in his newspapers. Actually tried nonstop to bring down a president with his smear tactics. A traitor.

Moon - Crazy cult leader

De Vos - Amway founder. 'Nuff said.

[Claire Beth]

19. you got that right! n/t

[Jeff in Cincinnati]

29. Not to threadjack or anything...

but what's the deal with the mainstream media and the Bush relationship to Rev. Moon? If you had a Democrat who was anything other than mainstream Protestant, Catholic or Jewish, the media would have him on a skewer for consorting with a cult leader. Yet Bush Jr. and Bush Sr. can do the slap-and-tickle with the Unification Church and nobody seems to care.

What's the story there?

[Zero Division]

68. Moon vs. Soros

All this criticism from the party that gets support from Sun Myung Moon, who believes himself to be a messiah destined to rule the entire world, has called for the extermination of homosexuals, has blamed Jews for the Holocaust, and wants to destroy individualism.

Check out this comparison between Soros and Moon done by journalist John Gorenfeld: http://www.gorenfeld.net/blog/2003/11/handy-comparison-chart-from.html

[John_H]

10. Hey NY post hypoctite hoes. Ever heard of, uhhhhhh, SCAIF?

[DBoon]

11. Sad he is considered "out of mainstream"

Soros represents the best of traditional Liberalism. He has much in common with John Stuart Mills.

If opposing (from personal experience in Eastern Europe) totalitarianism in favor of an open society makes him "out of the mainstream", I feel very sad for what the mainstream has become.

[JohnLocke]

66. Yes, that was my first thought (nt).

[truthspeaker]

13. My God! He advocates legalization of pot! That's SO radical!

Not. Like gay rights, I suspect it's not as contraversial as the GOP seems to think.

[Maeve]

14. "Daddy Warbucks"????? Who is making bucks from the war? eom

[Triana]

15. what a bunch of petty, pansy-a**...

pissants. Don't they have *anything* better to do than pick on some private citizen who doesn't agree with their policies and wants them out?

Is *this* what we hired them to do and what we pay their fat salaries for? *I don't think so!*

[Viking12]

17. O'Reilly got the memo...

he's been hammering Soros relentlessly lately.

[Demeter]

18. What About Richard Scaife?

The man who masterminded the Clinton impeachment, the Supreme Court coup, and whose foundation continues to whittle America into his fascist vision of Hell? People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

[amber dog democrat]

70. Nail on the head!

Yeah, how hypocritical is this? Scaife has done some very real harm. I would say he is seditious regarding American Political Institutions.
As the old saying goes, they can dish it out.... but Scaife is very, very, dangerous.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

20. Nazis(the GOP) are going after another Jew(Soros)!!!

Typical Right Wing Bigots!!!

[colonel odis]

23. i wonder if that might be a good defensive tactic

smear the gop with claims that anti-semitism is behind their smear of soros.

of course, the gop's retort would probably be, "duh. of course we are. we're republicans."

[Alerter_]

40. GOP is anti-semitic? AIPAC is chanting "Four More Years" to Bush

And the "Neo-Con" movement is full of pro-Israeli hawks, but you want me to believe that the GOP is anti-semitic? Sorry, there is no anti-semitism to speak of in the US, aside from the fringes of society. Even the ADL admits that.

[colonel odis]

57. i don't really ask that you believe or not believe anything.

anti-semitism is alive and well in the united states. subtle and insidious, but chugging right along.

[Alerter_]

67. if by "anti-semitic" you mean anti-war and anti-Likud, then yes

150,000 Israelis in the streets of Tel Aviv to protest Sharon, Likud, and Bush. Orthodox Jewish and all Peace communities protesting against the war in NYC. Sounds good to me.

Extremist Zionists hide beind Jews just like extremist Dominionists hide behind Christians, like exteremist Jihadists hide behind Muslims. Most of humanity are against those people.

[Alerter_]

28. fuck Soros, he's a CROOK

I couldn't care less about his ethnicity. He's a crook - look how he made his money "arbitraging" currencies - and he's now doing that to us. Why Democrats think this is a good idea is beyond me.

[notbush]

35. I gotta agree

I guess we can take his money...but it is "dirty money".
I've been kind of surprized that very few here have taken a stand against this guys ethics.

[AudreyT]

61. sorry you are way wrong

Soros has proven himself a man with integrity, look up who he has given money to and who works at his foundations.

[Fovea]

39. and he is using it to fight folks

who got in to trade energy in even more despicable ways.

Worst thing I can say bout Soros is that
a man with a hand perched lightly in your pocket
will do whatever they can to insure the health of the
pocket.

Enron, on the other hand did a smash and grab on the state of california to cripple a blue state while getting obscenely rich.

[Alerter_]

41. Soros wants to be a Russian style "Oligarch" of the US

In fact he has financial ties to the Oligarchs in Russia. Is President Kerry going to "privatize" US assets and sell them off to Soros in exchange for campaign money now?

[Voltaire99]

42. The world is full of crooks. Do you want them for us or against us?

Soros is distinguished from his fellow mega-crooks by his promotion of liberal democracy, his use of billions for social justice, and his criticism of the polluted paradigm of the "good" Christian West against the "bad" Muslim world.

But he takes with one hand while giving with the other: he has hurt people with his currency raiding. He is not to be absolved for that. Capitalism has set the table of our choices; we can hardly avoid eating because the chef is a crook.

Some useful material on Soros here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros

[Just Me]

51. Even "crooks" can do good-hearted deeds, yes.

Yes. Soros has been a mega-capitalist. But, I admire his incredible personal investment (unlike any member in this administration) in an "open society" philosophy. I have no problem accepting the assistance of a capitalist whose actions have proven his sincere compassion and interest in social justice.

[Alerter_]

53. heh, "Open Society" - i.e., the DLC's "Third Way"

more snake oil. Liberals and progressives should have nothing to do with this guy.

[Just Me]

54. Just 'cause I'll take his support certainly doesn't mean you have to. n/t

[sangh0]

56. You have strange ideas about who to associate with

After warning us not to associate with Soros, I wonder how you reconcile that advice with your citation of an anti-semitic Holocaust denial website.

[Alerter_]

59. Are you suggesting that I am anti-semitic, sangh0?

To anyone interested in Sangh0's accusations, have a look at this thread and my request to lock it. Sangh0 didn't want to debate Soros' involvement in the Democratic party, so instead accuses me of anti-semitism. It's a common tactic when you want to stop a discussion.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1713305
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=120x18301

[sangh0]

64. I"m suggesting your advice is hypocritical

You advose us to be careful about who we associate with, but you've been so careless that you've ended up promoting an anti-semitic website.

so instead accuses me of anti-semitism.

And I ask that you look for where I called Alerter_ an anti-semite. The only time II used that term is in reference to the website, and never use it against Alerter_

Alerter_'s accusations against me are as baseless as his accusations against Soros.

[AudreyT]

62. read the Open Society and its Enemies by Karl Popper

Popper was Soro's teacher at the London School of Economics, they both survived the Nazis and Soros survived the communist invasion of his country. Popper's attacks on Plato puts his philosphy completely diametrically opposed to that of Leo Strauss. Soros has really put that philosophy into work around the world. Sometimes giving more money personally to a country than US foriegn aid does. Soros is definitely a good guy.

[RFKHumphreyObama]

22. Heh

<In a memo e-mailed to GOP congressmen and staffers, the Republican National Committee called Soros the "Daddy Warbucks" of the Democratic party and noted his support for legalizing some drugs>

I’m not quite sure who “Daddy Warbucks” is but I do know that Cheney and Murdoch (coincidentally the owner of the NY Post) have made lots of bucks out of the recent war. Maybe someone should also point out that supporting the legalization of drugs is not half as bad as having your record of taking illegal substances expunged using daddy’s influences

<Out of touch, left-wing radical rushing extremist agenda on America," cries the e-mail.>

Pot, please meet kettle

[underpants]

25. How about using govt. time and OUR MONEY to GOVERN!!?!??!

Just a thought.

He's a "fanatic" huh?

[underpants]

26. I'l add:They are scacred of a rich man bucking the rich man's party

I thought the rich were rich due to their hard work and moral merit.

[President Jesus]

27. What about Ken Lay?? Boone Pickens??? Michael Dell??? Waltons???

Ken Lay, scumbag
http://www.newsmeat.com/fec/bystate_detail.php?st=TX&last=Lay&first=Kenneth

T. Boone Pickens, Texas oil man
http://www.newsmeat.com/fec/bystate_detail.php?st=TX&first=Boone&last=Pickens

Michael Dell, Texas whitebread
http://www.newsmeat.com/fec/bystate_detail.php?st=TX&last=Dell&first=Michael

The Walton family (Wal-Mart oligarchs)
http://www.newsmeat.com/fec/bystate_detail.php?city=BENTONVILLE&st=AR&last=Walton

[Jeff in Cincinnati]

30. "Delusions of grandeur"

Right. And when Bush says that "God told me to invade Iraq" the media has no problem with that. The guy who believes that the Rapture is imminent has his finger on the nuclear button. Good plan. Sign me up.

[AlCzervik]

31. Soros gave money to Arlen spector

So is Specator and Santorum an Bush gonna blast him? i don't think so.

[Blasphemer]

32. Is that all they got?

Good! Let them waste their time. Do they think that anyone in this country gives a Flying F#$% about Soros's past statements? Most people don't know who he is and don't care. It's certainly not going to affect their vote. The GOP is grasping at straws. Their desperation is pathetic but I will enjoying watching them go down in flames this fall.

[flaminbats]

37. Republicans now attack people they helped make rich!

Republicans have the majority in Congress, now all they need is a vision. They have a President, now all they need is a leader. Republicans have plenty of people to blame, but not enough votes to go around...

[owillis]

33. Attacking Soros

O'Reilly Factor guest Richard Poe smeared George Soros
http://www.mediamatters.org/items/200406010002

O'Reilly smeared Soros ... again
http://www.mediamatters.org/items/200406010004

Letter to Bill O'Reilly from David Brock
http://www.mediamatters.org/items/200406010003

Limbaugh: “Don’t be surprised if George Soros puts up a few hundred million dollars for a torture institute … to show how Bush and Rumsfeld are inept”
http://www.mediamatters.org/items/200405190001

[sangh0]

58. YOu left one out

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1713305

[OHdem10]

34. If you listen to the TV Presentation--

especially at Fox--the whole idea is to smear the Democratic Party using Soros, Michael Moore and anyone who they can use to leave a bad impression of Democratic Party. "When the American people learn that these people are for Drug Legalization, Gay Marriage(they list the Cultural Issues" American People will not support the Democratic Party." Wedge Politics on the rampage. Since the Republicans believe they can win on the Cultural Issues, they are
using Soros Moore and others to drive a wedge between the Party and these Individuals. The added bonus is it gives them an opportunity to smear the Party and Soros.

We as a party had better not fold just because the Republicans attack us on Cultural Issues. The Republicans are worried about their own Party. Tim Curran, The Hill this AM was explaining how Republicans are trying to distance themselves from Bush and the War.
Can you believe this?? The Republicans are in charge of all 3 Branches of Government and they believe they can avoid being accountable for war. They are in trouble--Folks they want to win--so
Cultural Issues will be used big time---Katie Bar the Doors.

[rumguy]

38. The GOP needs to be utterly destroyed

This is only proof of that...

[oklahomapride]

45. Yes but, how?

How can anyone possibly destroy a hateful anti-semite racist juggernaut like the current administration? I'm moving to canada.

[rumguy]

48. Their ideology provides no long-term sustenance

It will burn itself out - but...we need take advantage of this. We need to kick them when they're down, and hard!

We must never let them forget what they supported and what they did.

I will never let the repigs live down the last three years. They will always be *the enemy* in my eyes.

I will kick them when they're down. I will knock some figurative teeth down their collective throats. And I won't ever stop doing that.

Fuck 'em. They are human garbage, and should be delt with as such.

Is that extreme enough for ya?

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[oklahomapride]

52. YEAH MAN I LIKE YOUR STYLE

:grouphug: :loveya: :yourock:

[RockThrower]

55. amen to that!

We need more truly Democratic leaders in this nation who aren't afraid to express such lofty ideals. No rest until Shrubya is out!

[oklahomapride]

43. This is no different than nazi germany. Only more so!

If only clinton was still running this crazy clown boat

[Just Me]

44. Hi Ha' "oklahomapride"!!!!!

:hi:

Welcome to DU! :toast:

[oklahomapride]

46. Good to be here!

Finally some sane like-minded people
down with the repukes! and ashrubwol**

Thanks for the welcome Just Me! :spank:

[crossroads]

69. Welcome to DU!!!

:hi:

[CBHagman]

47. If he were GOP, he'd be held up as a model of success.

The guy would be at the State of the Union address next to Pickles and all that stuff.

I don't think many of us are even the slightest bit surprised by this. They knew Soros was keen on seeing Bush voted out of office.

[Voltaire99]

49. Soros has given between $100k-$250k to Ralph Nader

...specifically to Nader's Public Citizen Foundation, according to figures from Soros and the WSJ. Good show, George.

Public Citizen runs the campaign funding watchdog, whitehouseforsale.org, which monitors the buying and selling of our political duopoly.

[Democat]

50. They are using taxpayer money to attack a private citizen for his politics

Nothing new for the GOP wasting taxpayer money on partisan politics.

Taxpayers are bankrolling much of Bush's election campaign this year.

If Bush was a Democrat, the media would be attacking him over it.

[dave29]

60. DADDY WARBUCKS???

I find their use of the word WARBUCKS hysterical. Who keeps asking for more and more War Bucks? Where does the Buck never stop, unless it's about Bucks for war?

These people know no shame. They really are proving they know close to nothing at all.

If there is a DADDY WARBUCKS at all, it is Dick Cheney. Or Poppy Bush.
Or anyone involved with Halliburton, Carlyle, or any Contractor building weapons of mass destruction.

[Dr Fate]

63. This must mean Soros is a great enemy of the GOP/Media...

And the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

[expatriot]

65. I wish my delusions of grandeur were a millionth as lucrative n/t