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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 01:00 AM
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Bush to seek more war support from European allies

Bush to seek more war support from European allies
By BY By BENNETT ROTH
Copyright 2004 Houston Chronicle

ROME -- Invoking the international bonds that helped defeat Nazi Germany, President Bush flew across the Atlantic on Thursday with the goal of strengthening support from traditional European allies for the war on terrorism and U.S. action in Iraq.
Bush will try to mend relations on a continent where he and many of his policies are unpopular. His trip culminates Sunday with his participation in the 60th anniversary of D-Day in Normandy, France.
"As I head over to honor what happened 60 years ago, I think we're now seeing unity to work toward common good today," Bush said in an interview in Washington with an Italian television show

(snip)

More: http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/2608429
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 01:00 AM
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1. Good luck! n/t
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 03:45 AM
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11. Heh. That mantra is getting long in the tooth, isn't it?
We've been hearing as much since 2001.

It won't happen unless absolutely staggering bribes and pay-offs are made. And the US isn't in much of a position to do that these days.
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 01:02 AM
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2. Is Bu$h
out of touch with reality?
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sushi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 01:05 AM
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3. Since he ignored them last year
I wouldn't be surprised if they ignore him this year!
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Gemini Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 01:06 AM
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4. I wonder how many ways "Old" Europe will tell bush
to piss off and go to hell.
Old Europe indeed!

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ugarte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 01:13 AM
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5. How much WWII history do you suppose he even knows?
Could he find Normandy on a map?
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 01:19 AM
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6. Judging by the desperate comparisons the GOP is trying to make -
NOT MUCH. :dunce:

Good luck with the Europeans Mr. Bush, you're gonna need it!

I hope they eat him alive.
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Voice_of_Europe Donating Member (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 05:34 AM
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12. No eating alive

Nah... French are Gourmets... they choose wisely what to eat and what not...
^_^
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 01:20 AM
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7. Guardian editorial
Past and present
<snip>
Mr Bush is staking his credibility with American voters on November 2 on being able to tell them "job done" in Iraq. If he can persuade them, he stands a good chance of winning a second term. If he cannot, John Kerry may be president in eight months time. Mr Bush needs to show his supporters that Iraqis are regaining ownership of their own affairs, that the worst is over for US soldiers on the ground, and that the wider diplomatic wounds of March 2003 are now healing. That means that he arrives in Europe pursuing some valuable prizes. In turn, this means that European leaders have some increased leverage over him. They can play a significant part in bestowing or withholding international legitimacy on Mr Bush's ambitions both in Iraq and domestically. It is an important opportunity, and Europe should neither underplay nor overplay its hand. But we have got something Mr Bush needs, and we should drive a hard bargain for it.

The centrepieces of Mr Bush's current visit are commemorations of pivotal events from 1944. Today he is in Rome to mark the 60th anniversary of the Italian capital's liberation. On Sunday he takes part in the 60th anniversary of D-day in Normandy. When he speaks about these events, he should choose his words with greater care and more respect for other nations than he managed in his final speech in the United States before his departure. Like too many American politicians of both parties, Mr Bush has an extremely selective view of what happened in Europe in the years 1939-45. You would never know, from anything he says of the international failure to stand up to Hitler, that the United States opted out of the League of Nations from the start; or that the war with Hitler had been raging for more than two years before the US entered it, to considerable opposition at home; or that Russia bore much of the weight of combat against Germany for three years before D-Day; or that thousands of soldiers of other nations were there on the beaches of Normandy 60 summers ago, including ours. In his speech to the US air force academy this week, for example, Mr Bush said that the second world war began with an attack on the US - news to Poles - before adding that he was going to France to honour a generation of Americans who saved the liberty of the world.
<snip>
If we cannot rely on his version of the past, we cannot have much confidence in his vision of the present either

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1231118,00.html
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 01:25 AM
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10. freaking fantastic article!!!!
Since I cannot stomach the Shrub and his ridiculous rhetoric, I did not watch his silly speech at the AF Academy.

I cannot f****** believe he said the crap this article quotes him on!
I never cease to be amazed at just what an incompetent, uneducated, arrogant idiot he is.

I hope the Europeans hand him his ass in some spectacularly public fashion.
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crossroads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 01:22 AM
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8. Is he taking a page from Kerry's book?
Kerry called for other nations to help from the start of this fiasco...
:eyes:
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 01:23 AM
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9. This headline seems to run about every week or so
Is it just my imagination, or is nobody biting?
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