Cheney faces grilling over leak as Bush election hopes slump

[kskiska]

(snip)

'That is a very serious problem,' said John Zogby, head of polling firm Zogby International. One of America's most respected pollsters, Zogby believes Bush's numbers are so bad that the election has become Kerry's to lose.

Last week Bush met religious groups to revive a stalled plan to encourage faith organisations to bid for government money to run charity projects. The move is controversial for blurring the lines between church and state, but is popular with conservative Christians.

Bush's lurch to the right has opened up chasms in the previously united Republican party. Moderates are becoming increasingly vocal in their criticism. Central to this group is Arizona Senator John McCain, a Vietnam war hero and rival to Bush for the 2000 presidential nomination.

Speculation is rife that McCain could be lured over to the Democrats as Kerry's running mate. McCain has dismissed the idea, but sources close to the senator said that he would probably consider any offer. 'He is a real rogue,' said one source.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections2004/story/0,13918,1232410,00.html

[physioex]

1. I do have much respect for the Guardian...

But why did they insert McCain in this article? It sounds like CNN, or MSNBC. I am soo sick of all this McCain theory. It ain't gonna happen NOO WAYY NEVER!!!!

[Straight Shooter]

3. I'm disgusted, too, with McCain speculation.

As a Repub, he's one of the less inflammatory ones. But we've got plenty of good women and men to choose from in the Dem party.

This McCain rumor needs to die, before bush dumps cheney and lures McCain with god-knows-what to the 2004 ticket.

[crossroads]

6. I second the emotion...

:kick:

[Skip Intro]

7. But the talk has to be giving the regime nightmares

doesn't it?

I'm personally ok with the speculation as long as it doensn't come to pass, just because I suspect the prospect scares the hell out of the bush gang.

[NMDemDist2]

10. i think the Kerry team floats it to give Rove nightmares

and I hope it does :)

[crossroads]

12. Y'all do make a point...

...hehee
:evilgrin:

[niceypoo]

21. If bringing in McCaine beats Bush then so be it.

If Bringing in a matted mongrel dog helps beat Bush then so be it........

[robbedvoter]

46. True. At least here it seems like "a good thing" for McCain

But it's one of Rove more enduring gimmicks (along with hating France)

[leesa]

2. Another RW plea for McCain to become VP.

Now why would they want that?

[Zhade]

15. Er, the Guardian is hardly right-wing.

Not sure where you get that from.

[KittyWampus]

24. Lately The Guardian Has Had GOP Friendly Slants To Some Stories

at this point, I am wondering if they have their own version of CIA plants on their staff too.

[Zhade]

36. True, there have been a couple of unusually-slanted pieces recently.

Wonder what's up?

[Enraged_Ape]

4. Gag me with a McCain

Glad to see I'm not the only one tired of the "Kerry-McCain" speculation horseshit. It has Republican media written all over it, and it proves they're damn desperate and know their "favored" candidate doesn't have a monkey's chance in hell this November. I just wish posters on DU would quit trying to push the McCain crap, as well.

Give it up, guys. We know where you're coming from.

[crossroads]

5. Well, well, well...

things *are* looking good! Bush is self-destructing...
:bounce: :kick:

[Doosh]

8. latest figures must put Bush in the 30's

The Reagan love fest will put Bush's problems on the backburner for a while.

the only way I'd accept McCain as VP was if he officially switched over to the Democrats. We should be able to accept him if he did that, after all the GOP accepted Reagan who was a democrat up until he was 51.

[Tansy_Gold]

20. McCain would have to change more than the letter after his name.

For all the "moderate" label, he still holds some dreadfully right-wing positions. He would be little different from Zell Miller. Would you want HIM as VP??

[T Bone]

37. right, a wacko gop congress would impeach Kerry to move McCain up?

Don't think they wouldn't.
I don't want McCain as the Democratic vp--no effing way.

[Pachamama]

39. No effing way? Not even if its a choice of * as President or McCain?

I'd personally take McCain anyday as Dem VP and thus the prospect of possibly President if it meant beating Chimpy...

Last night, I asked my husband who can't stand Bush and the Repuke Party but when asked point blank who he thought Kerry should choose as VP who would help Kerry beat Bush and be a good President if he had to be, my husband said without hesitation McCain...this surprised me, but he had clearly thought about this previously....

Just something to think about....think of the long term picture and hopefully one without Bush....

[sendero]

49. We don't need McCain..

... to beat Bush*, in fact the idea has as much a chance of hurting our cause as it does helping. McCain is a pug through and through, don't let the occassional lapse fool you.

I would not vote for McCain for dogcatcher. Period.

But truthfully, I've never believed this nonsense anyway. This is a trial balloon, being floated by someone, that has pretty much already popped.

[radfringe]

22. white house match-up poll as of 6/4

Whitehouse matchup: http://www.pollingreport.com/wh04gen.htm

American Research Group Poll as of 6/4
Bush: 46%
Kerry: 48%

with nader in the mix----
Bush: 45%
Kerry: 46%
Nader: 3%

[Tellurian]

9. SLUMP? Did someone say: SLUMP?

Bushes Slump?

Slumpy Bush...

I Love it!

The nicest word I've heard all day!

[Tellurian]

11. Scandal of naming undercover CIA agent engulfs Vice-President

and puts pressure on White House.

You would never know it here!
Of late, if Cheney's profile were any lower
he would be indistinguishable from the South Lawn.

[skip fox]

28. Who leaked? Does Cheney need a lawyer?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x54603

[Don_G]

31. Cheney Is "Lawyered Up"

Consulted with Terrance O'Donnell already.

[goclark]

13. CNN said "dead heat"

What poll numbers were they reading for Kerry/Bush?

[lancdem]

17. The most recent CNN poll I've seen has Kerry 49, Bush 47

That's a statistical tie, so I assume that's what they're referring to.

[Tight_rope]

14. This is bullshit!!! Bush ass think he slick!!

"Last week Bush met religious groups to revive a stalled plan to encourage faith organisations to bid for government money to run charity projects.":wtf:

Oh so, what he's trying to do is an under the table deal promising these so-called "faith organisations" money, so they can go around preaching in our ears about "How Great Thou Art" (Bush) for given them money. Then we are suppose to be so greatful that we'll got out and vote for his sorry ass. Well I read straight throught this bullshit Dubya. Ya ass ain't slick.

[dbt]

16. What a WONDERFUL headline!

Meanwhile in Amerika, we're force-fed the drivel of "Bush Meets With Pope." The rest of the world knows all about bu$h--and it's ugly.

Meanwhile in Amerika, we get "Popular Wartime President." There's a new circle of Hell being constructed for the so-called journalists in this benighted country who helped put that Worthless Little Shit in the White House!

:argh:
dbt

[Generator]

33. You said it!

This is the headline I look to see at DU.

Damn, and the rest of the world does know our emperor isn't wearing any clothes. We have a lousy press.

[RebelOne]

18. Zogby polled me last week on the Presidential election

and, of course, you probably know how I voted.

[kevin881]

19. I took the poll too. wonder when the results will be released.

[Pachamama]

40. Welcome to the DU!

:hi:

Hopefully you voted for the good guy, right? :) :kick:

[TacticalPeek]

23. I like the spook quotes.

'It came out of Cheney's office. These are a very serious group of people,' said Mel Goodman, a former top CIA officer.

and

'If they can get the proof, someone will pay for it,' said Larry Johnson, a former CIA agent and senior counter-terrorism official at the State Department.

:evilgrin:

[Generator]

34. OH YEAH

Please oh please spookies bring 'em down!

[Mithras61]

25. Grilling over a leak? I'd rather he was grilled...

over a slow fire! :evilgrin:

[dbt]

35. Yeah, I've heard that RATTLESNAKE

tastes just like CHICKEN!

:evilgrin:
dbt

[patdem]

26. I like the idea of McCain...besides beating bush*...

I would like to see some unison in the country...and I think McCain as VP will take all the heat out of the ultra conservative reight wing republicans...and the TRUE republicans will rally around Kerry and McCain. It would be truly a GREAT opportunity to bring the country together...and show how bush*...given that same opportunity trashed it!!!

I do not want to see Clinton bashing...then bush* bashing...then Kerry bashing...then jeb* bashing...I would rather see the far reight wing go down in flames!!!!

[Bluebear]

27. Some militia kook will decide to off Kerry

So they can have a Republican president again. i think it's a horrible idea. Just my 2 cents.

[patdem]

29. WOW...never thought of that...call me naive???

but the reight wing could never call itself Republican again...it would have to start a 3rd party...the party of GOD or something???

Maybe Taliban would ring some bells???

[Bluebear]

30. I like "Talibornagains" lol

nt

[Pachamama]

43. Ha ha...that's a good one...n/t

:)

[Pachamama]

42. Yes, a concern of many, but I'm sure that more people wish that a militia.

...kook would off Chimpy....but, they just have great security and we have to have faith...

[loyalsister]

38. McCain is antichoice!

There is no room on this ticket for him!

[Pachamama]

44. I'm Pro-choice and Marched on Washington - McCain just says it to make

...the right happy...I don't honestly believe based on what I heard him say during the 2000 election that he would ever make efforts to overturn Roe v. Wade...I could be wrong, but its just my opinion...

[robbedvoter]

48. Yeah, just to make the right happy - what a guy! You have to love him!

"You're doing the work of the Lord" he sez to Hannity after they both kis W's ass. What a guy!
Now, what does he say to keep ME happy?

[Pachamama]

41. Yep, two Vietnam Vets vs. AWOL and "had better things to do"

Would be pretty interesting all right...Reagan Republicans who aren't Neo-cons and the Moderates would come running in droves...

:kick:

Hey, even if it doesn't happen, I love the idea that Rove might be losing sleep at night...

[robbedvoter]

47. Dems can unearth some veterans amongst them if they try - I am sure

Do we need to lose the White House to GOP if something should happen to Kerry?

[goforit]

32. They always refer to McCain, who has lost his following.....Who gives!!!

I'd like them to pull out people like the
Reagans to hear what the real middle of the road people are thinking.

[dusty64]

45. Looks like the death

of reagan has pushed all the regime's bad news off the page. They will only be able to use this as a distraction for so long, a few days maybe.

[Bridget Burke]

50. Too much Food_TV for me....

Especially this weekend, to avoid Reagan worship. To begin the summer, they're running all the shows about barbecue & grilling.

I can imagine Alton Brown discussing whether a rub or a marinade would work better on the VP.

Then turn him over to Bobby Flay!