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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 12:16 PM
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Protesters cut power to Paris train stations
Laurence Frost | Paris, France

French trade union activists claimed responsibility for surprise power outages on Monday that delayed hundreds of thousands of rail passengers in Paris. They warned of more protests over plans for the partial privatisation of the country's utilities.

The communist-backed CGT union said the outages were a response to attempts by the government to rush through new laws that would transform Electricite de France and Gaz de France from state agencies into listed companies.

Trains to and from Paris's St Lazare station were severely disrupted by the outages that began at 3.30am local time on Monday morning, while three other main line stations suffered partial power losses. All services were back to normal by about midday.

http://www.mg.co.za/Content/l3.asp?ao=67540
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BayCityProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 12:29 PM
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1. go france!
NO to privatization!
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 12:33 PM
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2. Do people get arrested for breaking the law over there?
What better way to have a reasoned discussion about the future of the nation's economy than to make life more difficult for millions, break the law, and act like total assholes.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 12:51 PM
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4. France has a long tradition of citizens demonstrating, civil disobedience,
and tolerance.


Whereas Americans are likely to view any demonstration as an inconvenience that might slow their commute, the French are much more likely to ask the question: "Why are they protesting?"


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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 01:15 PM
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7. This wasn't a demonstration, it was
an act of sabotage. At some point this just leads to anarchy.

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DUJunkie Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 01:27 PM
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10. What wrong with anarchy geek ?
n/t
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 01:58 PM
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12. LOL
Edited on Mon Jun-07-04 02:25 PM by Feanorcurufinwe
"At some point this just leads to anarchy."


Yeah -- at some point -- LOL. I suggest if you are that afraid of descending into anarchy, don't move to France. Actually, the US might be a little scary for you as well if you feel so threatened by civil disobedience, although that will change if Ashcroft gets his way.


I'm pretty sure Myanmar cracks down really hard on this type of thing, if you are looking for role models.




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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 02:19 PM
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14. Actually, the US is scary
because there is too much power being grabbed by the Bush regime. I think the US could learn a lot from the French in terms of social justice, but I also think that the unions in France engage in counterproductive measures.

I also think that rewarding lawbreakers (and I distinguish stuff like this from demonstrations and strikes) only encourages stuff like this that punishes regular working people.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 12:39 PM
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3. The French would be well advised
to examine what an outstanding success utility deregulation has been here in the US...excuse me, I meant outstanding failure.

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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 01:16 PM
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8. What's French for
"Granma Millie?"
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 01:53 PM
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11. Maybe you should stick to English,
because I have no idea what you are talking about.

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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 02:04 PM
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13. It's from the Enron tapes
http://www.redding.com/redd/nw_business/article/0,2232,REDD_17527_2939671,00.html


In one transcript a trader asks about "all the money you guys stole from those poor grandmothers of California."

To which the Enron trader responds, "Yeah, Grandma Millie, man. But she's the one who couldn't figure out how to (expletive) vote on the butterfly ballot."

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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 12:59 PM
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5. Go France
Give them Hell. :)
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TO Kid Donating Member (565 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 01:09 PM
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6. Their timing is off
Traditionally, the season brownshirt behaviour by unionists is the autumn.
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Sinistrous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 01:17 PM
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9. Hi. Would you expand on that a bit?
Your post states an interesting premise.
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TO Kid Donating Member (565 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 02:22 PM
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15. Their traditions...
My sister's been living in Paris for about 25 years now, and every fall there are wildcat strikes that shut down parts of the transport system. I was there for two weeks in 1998 and a different Métro route was shut down each day, I asked some locals why they were striking and the answer I got from everyone was, "C'est octobre". I later saw in the papers that they were striking because a couple of drivers were assaulted on the job, so naturally they did what they always do in French strikes- throw rocks and beat people up.
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Flagg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 03:05 PM
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16. The CGT (main union) are non violent.
Edited on Mon Jun-07-04 03:06 PM by Flagg
They beat people up ?Who ? The Gendarmes ? What are you referring to ?
Total nonsense.

I'm afraid you don"t know what you're talking about my friend.
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