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CShine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 06:56 PM
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Democrats strike back on faith issue
For much of the 20th century, the language of faith infused politics on the left on issues ranging from civil rights to a living wage for farm workers. In 1968, for example, labor leader Cesar Chavez ended a three-week fast with prayer and breaking of bread. His speech to 8,000 supporters, read by a minister, ended with the rallying call: "God help us to be men!" But since the rise of the Christian right in the 1970s, the mantle of faith-toned politics has been ceded largely to Republicans.

Now a group of Democrats is eager to revive the historic role that religion has played in their party. It is launching a multiyear project Wednesday to amplify the religious roots of "progressive" policies, ranging from the economy and environment to social issues. A key reason: Religion is now the biggest predictor of vote, after party identification. In a presidential election that could pivot on a few swing states, the fact that Democrats are losing the vote of regular churchgoers by a 2-to-1 margin could be decisive.

"The gap between people who go to church regularly and those that don't is twice the gender gap," says Democratic pollster Celinda Lake. "It's huge."

To advocates, the new focus on church-pew politics represents an opportunity for peel off crucial voters without losing the party's more secular base. But big gains won't be easy, analysts say. Protestant registered voters favor President Bush by a nine-point margin over presumptive Democratic challenger John Kerry - a gap that jumps to 18 points for those who say they attend church regularly, according to a Gallup poll released Tuesday. While Senator Kerry has jumped to an eight-point advantage among registered Roman Catholic voters in the same poll, it's a far cry from the 56-point lead enjoyed by John Kennedy among Catholics in 1960.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0609/p01s01-uspo.html
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DebJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 07:20 PM
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1. Jesus Christ was a pacifist liberal.
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 07:46 PM
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2. ....but not a supernatural being....at least Jefferson didn't think so....
....and NEITHER do I! :think:

And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerve in the brain of Jupiter. But may we hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with this artificial scaffolding, and restore to us the primitive and genuine doctrines of this most venerated reformer of human errors.

-Thomas Jefferson, Letter to John Adams, April 11, 1823
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 08:02 PM
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3. Soon, we won't be able to have any politics without the Witchy-Man
Whose god's stronger than the other poor schlub's god?

Yes, folks, the age of reason is past; we're officially in the highly technological superstitious dark ages.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 08:06 PM
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4. Amen
;-)
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 08:09 PM
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5. Indeed....
Edited on Tue Jun-08-04 08:10 PM by jus_the_facts
....Highly technological yet blatantly blinded with continuous willfull ignorance....i dub thee....OXYMORANS! :crazy:
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 08:24 PM
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6. What blows me away is that Jesus is middle eastern
And the most voracious war supporters are anti-arab and persian, yet jesus is just as middle eastern as Mohammed.

I'd love for western europeans to wake up and realize what conquered peoples we all are and pay a little homage to our original, so-called "pagan" religions.
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 08:34 PM
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7. Jesus said:
"It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter heaven." So, Jesus was a Republican?????? :shrug: I have no idea how the right has claimed Jesus for itself; all Christians should be Republicans, they claim. That's funny, since their ideology is directly opposed to everything Jesus said about money.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:00 PM
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9. jesus used force on the money changers
more conservatives. Rare but necessary.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 04:24 AM
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10. And that's what did him in, if ya remember
NEVER fuck with the religionbiz. Once the Nazz went all hoity-toity spiritual on the moneychangers, it was shroudsville by way of pain city.

(with apologies to Lord Buckley, man.)
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CharlesGroce Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 08:39 PM
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8. Democrats...
the New Republicans!

I thought that the reason religion wasn't in politics, as it shouldn't be, was because it's constitutionally illegal! That's just the country I fight for, interpretations may vary I suppose, though incorrectly.
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