Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Bush ignored Pentagon lawyers over tactics in war on terror

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU
 
CShine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 04:56 PM
Original message
Bush ignored Pentagon lawyers over tactics in war on terror
The Bush administration routinely bypassed or overruled Pentagon experts on international law and the Geneva convention to construct a sweeping legal justification for harsh tactics in the war on terror, the Guardian has learnt. In one instance, President George Bush's military order of November 13 2001, which denies prisoner-of-war status to captives from Afghanistan and allows their detention without charge or access to a lawyer at Guantánamo, was issued without any consultations with Pentagon lawyers, a former Pentagon official said. The revelation follows reports in the US press this week of a Pentagon memo that argued that Mr Bush was not bound by laws against torture, and that interrogators who torture detainees at Guantánamo cannot be prosecuted. The military order issued by Mr Bush in November 2001 was the first such directive since the second world war, and the administration's failure to seek the Pentagon's advice on what would emerge as the entire system of detention at Guantánamo surprised Pentagon officials.

"That came like a bolt from the blue," the official said. "Neither I nor anyone I knew had any insight, any advance knowledge, or any opportunity to comment on the president's military order."

The Pentagon general counsel, William James Haynes, was also left out of the loop, another official said. Meanwhile, the Bush administration fought off allegations that it had manipulated the law to justify torture of detainees at Guantánamo, with the attorney general, John Ashcroft, pressed repeatedly at Senate committee hearings yesterday to say whether Mr Bush had ever intervened on the treatment of detainees.

Mr Ashcroft would not answer, saying only: "This administration rejects torture."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/guantanamo/story/0,13743,1234629,00.html
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 05:02 PM
Response to Original message
1. It seems they simply can't recover now, doesn't it?
And every time I've thought that we had a terrorist attack or a blown up shuttle or a sawed off head. Doesn't make me feel good at all, but we have to walk the path to take America back.

BLAME BUSH FIRST!

Click here for "BLAME BUSH FIRST", and other fair and balanced yet stunning buttons, magnets and stickers
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
drscm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 05:06 PM
Response to Original message
2. *Bush is simply doing what *Bush does best...
hurt people or, better yet, sign their execution orders.

The man is without any semblence of a heart. Nor is he concerned about anything except loyalty to his sick ways.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 05:13 PM
Response to Original message
3. Here the Brit newspapers are, beating the Yank Press AGAIN!
Whattaya gotta do to buy a free press around here?

:freak:
dbt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 05:17 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. You gotta buy a press...
...to have a free press in America.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec 26th 2024, 08:42 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC