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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 11:34 PM
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Skinheads fight their 'holy war'
Edited on Wed Jun-09-04 11:43 PM by dArKeR
Some Russians believe they are fighting a battle against people with darker skins -- and the haters are growing in number

AP , Moscow
Thursday, Jun 10, 2004,Page 16

Semyon Tokmakov stretches out his hand and points to a thick scar he got from assaulting a black US Marine six years ago. The attack cost him one-and-a-half years in jail, but Tokmakov says he has no regrets.

``We are waging a racial holy war,'' said Tokmakov, 28, an informal leader among Moscow's skinheads, whose violence appears to be rising.

Over the last several years, Russia has become a strikingly hostile place for all those with African, Asian or so-called Caucasian features -- the dark skin and dark hair typical for the peoples of the mountainous Caucasus region.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/feat/archives/2004/06/10/2003174547

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http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/feat/photo/2004/06/10/2003137895

Sick people! And Bush sets the world's tone by example by murdering, butchering, sexually torturing men women and chldren... Set's the example that 'we don't have to follow the law. We make our own justice. We are exempt from International Laws... I'll be amazed if the world isn't in total chaos in 2 years.

I have some sort of instinctual friendship and liking toward women. Since I was a child I remember all the girls wanting to get a tan to be darker. And I must admit it looked pretty cool when they were brown. Then I moved to Hawaii and found that all the girls are brown. HOG HEAVEN! Then I kept moving West or East depending which goofy rule your follow and I found out the all the girls are golden brown even if they don't go for a sun tan. HOG HOG HEAVEN!

I am so far removed from these sick twisted prejudice people no matter where they might be found. Russia, Australia, the South, in the GOP Party..., I can't even begin to imagine their sickness. I guess that's where my faith comes in. Something just can't understand such sickness I resort to faith. I honestly call it/them 'agents of Satan' which is the closest I can comprehend to what is their thought process. And I'm sure Jesus would come to the same conclusion.
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 12:36 AM
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1. Extremism, Xenophobia Rising in Russia
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Aidoneus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 12:40 AM
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2. Pinning this on Bush is ridiculous
These Russist-nazis were carving swastikas into Chechen corpses while Saint Clinton was basking in that pre-Penisgate glow. They make Abu Ghurayb look like a health spa.
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Kimber Scott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 01:54 AM
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3. I agree. You can't blame Bush for EVERYTHING wrong in
this world. There were sick people before him and they'll be sick people after.
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 12:07 PM
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7. I disagree. Bush has set the tone for these peoples' future actions. For
Edited on Thu Jun-10-04 12:07 PM by dArKeR
sure. Bush has legitimized hatred, torture, rape, sodimization, molestation, lying, immorality, insanity, rage, exemption from laws... In my opinion, no acedemic could deny this. I understand the Whores of Hoover, Heritage, AEI... who are GOP/NSA moles in the acedemic system will continue to lie and support GOP immorality.
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Kimber Scott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 12:16 PM
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8. Hatred existed long before the GOP, or the USA for that matter.
Hatred has existed as long as humans have and if you think Russian Skinheads need permission from Bush to execute that hate, you've given Bush a whole lot more power than he deserves.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 12:55 PM
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9. The pervasiveness and history of hate should not justify it.
There is this notion of progress, and Bush and his minions have done more than anyone on the planet to pervert it.
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Kimber Scott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 01:20 PM
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10. Nobody said anything about justification.
I can bet you, though, no Russian skinhead sat around and said to himself and his buddies, "Well, you know, the US president is an asshole, so let's beat up some black guys."

This conversation is getting ridiculous. If you think Bush rules the universe, go on and keep believing it. I think he's just a little bastard that's going to get voted out of office come November. Then who will you blame bigotry and predjudice on? Kerry? Or, do you think all of that kind of behavior is just going to evaporate when he's elected? Who was in the White House when a bunch of white guys dragged James Byrd behind their truck to his death? Hmmm? Who's fault was that?

Put the blame for these heinous acts where it lies, with the perpetrators. Blame Bush for what he does, (Iraq, environment, women's rights, tax cuts for the rich, unfunded educational programs, unfunded homeland defense, lying to the American people and delusions of granduer), not everything else.

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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 01:59 AM
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4. Communism is good for something...
keeping racial and ethnic strife down. Example being Yugoslavia among other places.
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TexasMexican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 02:26 AM
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5. Someone buy those boys a Confederate Flag...
they need to learn about thier heritage. :eyes:
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gottaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 01:24 PM
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11. Are you thinking of Moscow, Idaho?
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 02:54 AM
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6. Stupid worthless ass holes
What the hell is wrong with these people? These people need a fuckin history lesson.
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CaptainClark23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 01:29 PM
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12. Just catching up on lost time
Russia going through the same cultural (or anti-cultural) influences of their western counterparts, just in accelerated and compressed time.

The way I see it, they just worked through the early 70's and are now entering the mid-to-late 70's...and so this National Front foolishness...by January we'll see the Russian version of "We Are the World"

(the above is partly, but not wholly, tongue in cheek)
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