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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 07:35 AM
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Poll: Kerry Leads Bush by 7 Pct. Points
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&e=1&u=/ap/20040610/ap_on_el_pr/california_poll

LOS ANGELES - Democratic candidate John Kerry (news - web sites) leads President Bush (news - web sites) 51 percent to 44 percent among American voters in a two-way race for president, according to a Los Angeles Times poll published Thursday.


Kerry's margin of 7 percentage points shrinks only slightly to 6 percentage points, 48-42, in a three-way race with independent candidate Ralph Nader (news - web sites), poll results show.


More than a third of those surveyed said they don't know enough about Kerry to decide whether he will make a better president than Bush. Asked who is more likely to flip-flop on issues, they chose Kerry by 2 to 1.


But by 56 percent to 16 percent, voters felt that Bush was "too ideological and stubborn." They gave Kerry better marks for ideas for strengthening the economy, building respect for the U.S. around the world, and handling the problems of cost and access to health care.

a bit more
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Frodo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 07:38 AM
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1. Good news!
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 07:41 AM
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2. Great News

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/president/kerry/articles/2004/06/10/kerry_pulls_ahead_of_bush_in_national_poll/
Kerry pulls ahead of Bush in national poll

7 points is alot, yet it is described as "pulls ahead" Interesting. Wonder what how they described Bush's lead when he was 5 points up?
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 11:11 AM
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24. That is Because They Know a 7% Lead Isn't Enough to Win...
...for a Democratic candidate,
while 5% is a very comfortable lead for any Republican.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 07:42 AM
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3. Rate this baby up!
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Luvpurp Donating Member (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 07:44 AM
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4. The upside to being a "flip-flopper"
is that critical thinking voters will realize that changing your mind after a bad decision is a positive trait. the comments that Bush is too stubborn indicate that some people are beginning to figure this out. It still burns me though that Kerry is considered a bigger flip-flopper than idiot boy, the facts just don't bear that out.
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 08:03 AM
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8. they get their info from ads
God forbid any of these clowns would pick up a paper or a book and read.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 07:47 AM
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5. what wonderfuL news
i'm shocked it's that cLose.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 10:59 AM
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23. rate it a five
This means he didn't get a bump from Raygun whorefest.
yeeeeeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaaaaaa:)
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Teddy_Salad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 07:51 AM
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6. More than a third of those surveyed...
...said they don't know enough about Kerry to decide whether he will make a better president than Bush.

Sheesh! A lump of rock would make a better president than Bush! :eyes:

What is wrong with these people?
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 08:01 AM
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7. Mind you, Kerry hasn't really started campaigning yet
And Bush is going full throttle down a dark street with no headlights on. I smell a landslide.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 08:08 AM
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9. The debates should be interesting too n/t
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Aries Donating Member (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 08:14 AM
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10. I wonder if they will try to weasel out of them somehow
using "national security" as an excuse. Like, it would be bad for national security to see the President make a fool of himself on national TV.
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NeoConsSuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 08:17 AM
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11. Just like there won't be any more press conferences..
where the chimp does not receive the questions in advance.
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ALago1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 08:32 AM
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12. 7 Pts is getting close to landslide territory, isn't it?
Don't want to get overly optimistic, but this is pleasing news...
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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 10:37 AM
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19. It's starting to get close to the area where it would be difficult to pull
off BBV fraud without it being extremely obvious.

NOT time to get complacent nearly. I don't think it ever would be safe with this crew to take ANYTHING for granted.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 10:54 AM
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22. Here here. BBV is still a threat........
No rest for the weary. :)
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 09:02 AM
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13. And This Right In the Middle of Reagan Beatification Whorefest!!
Hehe...
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 09:12 AM
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16. Actually I think Bush is suffering in comparison to Reagan. Imagine that.
Heh.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 10:39 AM
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20. Chimp suffers in comparison to anyone!
Even the above-mentioned rock. A rock would cause less harm.
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ItsMyParty Donating Member (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 09:03 AM
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14. Is there not another such poll recently unveiled??
I have watched only a few minutes of tv these last several days because it is so impossible to pick up any news. However, at one of those moments about 2-3 days ago, CNN stuck into their programming a segment about a new poll (and I believe it was either Gallup or Pew) that put Kerry 50 and Bush 44 and said that in the poll previous to this one Kerry had just a two point lead over Bush. They noted that this comes after all the WWII memorializing but before the Reagan funeral (I don't think the funeral is going to do Bush one iota of good). In so many ways it's all about the perception of who is winning and this is such great news.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 09:10 AM
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15. Looks like Naderman is starting to pull votes from Shrub. If they were
evenly distributed across the U.S. that would be ok. Unfortunately I am afraid that Nader might draw enough from Kerry in some key states to tip them to Bush. However, if this lead holds it won't matter. 56% think Bush is too ideological and stubborn. If only 3% of those go for Nader, that still leaves 53% for Kerry - probably enough for a comfortable electoral sweep, if not a landslide.
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capriccio Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 09:31 AM
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17. Key sentence

"Kerry has established these advantages EVEN while voters are just filling in their portrait of him."

Caps addded for the benefit of those who've been in a panic about Kerry blowing this thing.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 10:43 AM
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21. I don't want to get complacent, but I think that Kerry has not yet begun
to fight, and I think that will turn out to have been a good strategy.

The Chimp is shooting himself in the foot every time he moves or attempts to speak. The news out of Washington and Iraq is one long bad story. Why should Kerry get in the way when his opponent is destroying himself?

And the worst that folks can say about Kerry is that they "don't know him that well - seems to flip-flop - probably better on - who is Kerry?"

Americans start their election campaigns ridiculously early, anyway. Kerry shouldn't have to spend millions of dollars "defining himself" six months before the election. It's what he does two months, one month, two weeks before the election that will count.

I think Kerry is doing fine.
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 09:59 AM
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18. Poor Rove
He succeeded in getting people to think that Kerry flip-flops.

BUT he failed at getting people to think that flip-flopping is a bad thing! Ha!

Instead people think that Bush should flip-flop more instead of being so stubborn!

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Snivi Yllom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 11:16 AM
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25. The LA Times also had Bustamente beating the recall a month out.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 01:09 PM
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26. kick
:kick:
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 01:10 PM
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27. I sense a BLOWOUT
NT
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 10:09 PM
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28. ...by 56 percent to 16 percent ...
voters felt that Bush was "too ideological and stubborn." They gave Kerry better marks for ideas for strengthening the economy, building respect for the United States around the world, and handling the problems of cost and access to health care.
http://www.tcpalm.com/tcp/wptv/article/0,1651,TCP_1213_2955023,00.html
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