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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 10:03 PM
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Judge: jurors not to hear about Cheney
This is the first I've heard about this story. Very strange...

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=544&ncid=693&e=1&u=/ap/20030812/ap_on_go_pr_wh/missiles_found

Judge: Jurors Not to Hear About Cheney
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By RICHARD BENKE, Associated Press Writer

ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. - Jurors in a federal weapons case can hear about Halliburton Corp.'s ties to a Canadian anti-terrorist consultant who faces trial next week, but they can't hear about Vice President Dick Cheney (news - web sites).

Federal Judge John Conway ruled Monday that Cheney, who headed Halliburton in the 1990s, was irrelevant to the impending trial of David Hudak.

Hudak faces 50 years in prison if convicted of stockpiling 2,400 missile warheads, providing military training to troops from the United Arab Emirates and several other charges.

<snip>

He contends Halliburton, a Houston-based oilfield-services and construction company, initiated the sale of the missile tips, billing them as demolition devices rather than warheads. Halliburton, through a spokeswoman, has confirmed selling demolition devices, but not warheads.

more...
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 10:07 PM
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1. Enough is enough!!!.................Unbelievable!!!!
:puke:
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Wonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 10:47 PM
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4. what do you mean? this is the greatest country in the world
Edited on Mon Aug-11-03 10:48 PM by Wonder

if they are lying they have a perfectly good reason for it. And isn't it great we have boys to protect us. that sounds anti-american to me... and don't mention those NN's and those NC's either unless you take off that tinfoil hat, because we don't care about the truth... Arnold is running for Governor...
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 10:08 PM
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2. This monster is getting bigger and bigger and bigger!!!!!
Come on AMERICA.........

Where the hell is everybody?????
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 10:23 PM
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3. amazing...
I'm getting scandal overload!

imagine if things like this were treated like Whitewater, which the average repube con't comprehend anyway!

:grr:
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 05:21 AM
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5. because of this:
http://www.john-loftus.com/enron3.asp

What Congress Does Not Know about Enron and 9/11
May 31, 2002 For Immediate Release
By Atty. John J. Loftus

...
A captured Al Qaida document reveals that US energy companies were secretly negotiating with the Taliban to build a pipeline. The document was obtained by the FBI but was not allowed to be shared with other agencies in order to protect Enron. Multiple sources confirm that American law enforcement agencies were deliberately kept in the dark and systematically prevented from connecting the dots before 9/11 in order to aid Enron’s secret and immoral Taliban negotiations.
...
Their ongoing terrorist investigations appear to have been hindered during the same sensitive time period while the Enron Corporation was still negotiating with the Taliban. An inadvertent result of the Taliban pipeline cover-up was that the Taliban’s friends in Al Qaida were able to complete their last eight months of preparations for 9/11 while the Enron secrecy block was still in force.
...


The Enron pipeline connection to 9/11
...
This Atef report was almost certainly reviewed by the late John O'Neill at the time of the Embassy bombing, shortly after the Al Qaida report was written. At the time, O'Neill was the FBI agent in charge of the Embassy bombing investigation. The shocking pipeline information may explain why O'Neill became fixated about the Saudi-Taliban-Al Qaida relationship for the few remaining years of his life.

After O'Neill's investigations were repeatedly shut down by his superiors, O'Neill allegedly began making discreet inquiries to French intelligence using two reporters as cut-outs. Both reporters were known consultants for French intelligence and are specialists on both the oil industry and terrorism.
...


The Press on the BCCI-bin Mahfouz-bin Laden Intelligence Nexus

Boston Herald, December 11, 2001

A powerful Washington, D.C., law firm with unusually close ties to the White House has earned hefty fees representing controversial Saudi billionaires as well as a Texas-based Islamic charity fingered last week as a terrorist front.

The influential law firm of Akin, Gump, Strauss, Hauer & Feld has represented three wealthy Saudi businessmen - Khalid bin Mahfouz, Mohammed Hussein Al-Amoudi and Salah Idris - who have been scrutinized by U.S. authorities for possible involvement in financing Osama bin Laden and his terrorist network.

In addition, Akin, Gump currently represents the largest Islamic charity in the United States, Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development in Richmond, Texas.
...
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 05:29 AM
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6. See no Cheney, hear no Cheney, speak no Cheney (n/t)
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 06:44 AM
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7. lets do a flash crowd at Halliburton executive offices!? n/t
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Merlin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 08:04 AM
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13. Love It! 86 43 !
Excellent!
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DontBlameMe Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 07:16 AM
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8. Wait a sec, folks.
According to the article:

"Cheney did not come aboard as CEO at Halliburton until a year after the 1994 purchase of the explosives"

Now, as much as I hate the rat bastard, we can't really complain if he wasn't even working there at the time.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 07:58 AM
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11. Cheney is still involved with the company...receives a million a year
from them in payment for services he rendered them as VP. I suspect if they looked carefully at the records, he was in on the planning.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 07:32 AM
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9. Bush appointed Judge Conway to the super-secret
Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act court.

Here's a link: http://www.nmol.com/users/billp/conway.htm. Scroll past the tinfoil stuff at the top to about midway down. There you'll find a quoted Albuquerque Journal story about Conway's appointment.

Regardless of whether or not Cheney was relevant to the case, this guy would protect Cheney at all costs.
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Merlin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 08:00 AM
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12. Good find. NB: the scumbag, Jonathan Turley, is NSA!
Turley, the insipid GW prof who was everywhere as a talking head condemning Clinton during they coup attempt, appeared before this super secret court "as an NSA employee."

Which leads to the logical next question: Is he also a CIA employee?

And perhaps an additional question: Why, as a government employee, was he permitted to enter into the political controversy over the impeachment?
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DrBB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 07:40 AM
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10. And then there was the pulse-neutron generator sale to Iraq
...for which Halliburton was busted back in the early 90s. A component of oil pipeline pumps. Among other things. The "other things" of course being mainly nuclear weapons triggers. But hey, no biggie.
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bspence Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 09:42 AM
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14. OK, THAT'S IT!!
I'm moving. I'm so sick of this kind of crap ruining our country, where the rich get favors, and the rest of us live under the scrutiny of constant security cameras and crooked cops with too much power.
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