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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 08:57 AM
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Beheading horror grips Hollywood
Snip from London Evening Standard

By Metro
16 June 2004

A murder suspect was held by police near the gates of Paramount Studios in Hollywood yesterday after one man was beheaded and another stabbed to death.

The drama began when an airline ticket agent heard a commotion as Morley Hal Engleson, 67, tried to book a flight by phone.

Police who went to Engleson's home found him dead and also discovered the severed head of neighbour Robert Lees, 91, a writer on the vintage TV series Rawhide. Homeless Keven Lee Graff, 27, was held after a studio guard recognised his face from a TV news broadcast.

http://www.thisislondon.com/news/articles/11361912?source=Metro

Someone's been watching too many snuff movies...



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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 09:01 AM
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1. including The Passion Of The Christ?
:headbang:
rocknation
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 09:05 AM
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2. THREADKILLER SUPREME!!!!!!!!!!!
I bow to your superior depths of irony!
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 09:08 AM
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3. Mr. Lees did a lot more than Rawhide
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Katarina Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 09:11 AM
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4. Weird coincidence...
The Blacklisting of Hollywood's Talent

In September of 1947, the Primary hearings of the Communist Infiltration of Hollywood Motion Picture Industry saw so-labelled "friendly witnesses" testifying. Known friendly witnesses were Jack Warner and Louis B. Mayer (representing the studio heads), Ronald Reagan (head of the Screen Actors Guild), Robert Montgomery, Lela Rogers (mother of Ginger Rogers), Walt Disney, Adolphe Menjou, Gary Cooper and Robert Taylor. These men brought mass publicity and answered questions openly, willingly and honestly. They were treated with respect and many read pre-compiled answers. Not at any time were they under suspicion. Immediately, out of the 41 subpoenaed witnesses, the committee singled out nineteen known, leftist directors, producers, screenwriters and actors as enemies of the state or communists. They were declared to be "unfriendly", meaning they would refuse to answer questions about their political beliefs. Eleven of the nine were questioned about their connection with the Communist party. As a direct result, their lives were greatly affected. Bertolt Brecht, the German emigrant playwright, was the only person of the eleven "unfriendly" witnesses who answered questions while on the stand. After claiming he wasn't a communist, he immediately returned to East Germany. The remaining ten "unfriendlys" acquired the name "The Hollywood Ten". The Hollywood Ten consisted of one director (Edward Dmytryk) and nine screenwriters (Alvah Bessie, Herbert Biberman, Lester Cole, Ring Lardner Jr., John Howard Lawson, Albert Maltz, Samuel Ornintz, Adrian Scott and Dalton Trumbo). Claiming their Fifth Amendment rights at the stand, they refused to answer any and all questions. Gordon Kahn also used the same excuse for not answering.

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These are only a few of the 324 blacklisted persons of the Hearings of Communist Inflitration in the Motion Picture Industry. It is speculated that over 200 more were blacklisted through other forms in the media. These people are Academy-Award winners, classic film makers, and staples in the form of how films are made. There is no complete list of the names of the banned, here is to name a few people that were definately blacklisted (the Hollywood Ten is in bold); Orson Bean, Herschel Bernardi, Walter Bernstein, John Berry, Alvah Bessie, Herbert J. Biberman, Charles Bickford, Marc Blitzstein, Joe Edward Bromberg, Phoebe Brand, Bertolt Brecht, Peter Brocco, Phil Brown, Sidney Buchman, Hugo Butler, Jean Butler, Morris Carnovsky, Lee Cobb, Lester Cole, Richard Collins, Jeff Corey, John Cromwell, Howard Da Silva, Edward Dmytryk, Paul Draper, John Henry Faulk (radio personality), Jerry Fielding, Betty Garett, Bernard Gordon, Lloyd Gough, John Garfield, Lee Grant, John Howard Lawson, Robert Lees, Philip Loeb, Josep h Losey, Marsha Hunt, Sam Jaffe, Paul Jarrico, Gordon Kahn, Victor Kilian, Howard Koch, Tony Kraber, Ring Lardner Jr., Louise Lewis, Albert Maltz, Arnold Manoff, Burgess Meredith, Lewis Milestone, Pamela Miller, Karen Morley, Zero Mostel, Jean Muir, Frank O'Connor, Clifford Odets, Samuel Ornitz, Alfred Palca, Larry Parks, Irving Pichel, Abraham Polonsky, Robert Presnell Jr., Ayn Rand, John Randolph, Martin Ritt, Anne Revere, Bob Roberts, Edward G. Robinson, Robert Rossen, Waldo Salt, Adrian Scott, Joshua Shelley, Gale Sondergaard, Frank Tarloff, Dorothy Tree, Dalton Trumbo, Michael Wilson, Richard Wright and Nedrick Young. So much talent was put on hold for a decade or more.

http://home.earthlink.net/~tenspeed/SimonaSara/blacklist.htm
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 09:18 AM
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5. You may be on to something there...
???
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 11:50 AM
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9. Reagan was 93, this fellow was 91
Reagan and him both involved in the Hollywood/McCarthy communist witchhunts from opposite sides - it is sort of eerie timing.
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 10:08 AM
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6. No Motive in Hollywood Stabbings
Edited on Wed Jun-16-04 10:10 AM by drfemoe
After hours of questioning transient Keven Lee Graff, police said today that they still have no motive for the fatal stabbing over the weekend of two Hollywood neighbors, one of whom was beheaded.

"These were obviously very gruesome murders," said Capt. Al Michelena of the LAPD Robbery-Homicide Division. "At this point, we haven't found any particular motive. It doesn't appear that he knew the victims. We don't know if he entered the first home to commit a theft or was just in a murderous rage."
...
The two victims were Robert Lees, one of the first screenwriters to be blacklisted in Hollywood during the McCarthy era, and Dr. Morley Engelson, 69, a physician.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-061504stab_lat,1,5242773.story?coll=la-home-local

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&edition=us&ie=ascii&q=Lee+Graff&btnG=Search+News
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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 10:12 AM
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7. It seems quite obvious Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi is responsible.
Of course with advice from al-Qaeda.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 10:17 AM
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8. This is terrible--you amke it to 91, no problems, alert, and then this
senselessness happens. Truly tragic.
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