Guantanamo suicides followed arrival of new general - General Miller

[NNN0LHI]

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-usguan0623,0,1319055.story?coll=ny-nationalnews-headlines

WASHINGTON -- Three months after a get-tough general took command of the Guantanamo Bay prison for terror suspects, prisoners began a flurry of suicide attempts, according to military records.

Maj. Gen. Geoffrey Miller took over as commander at Guantanamo in November 2002 after interrogators criticized his predecessor for being too solicitous for the detainees' welfare.

Between January and March 2003, 14 prisoners at Guantanamo tried to kill themselves, according to Pentagon figures. That's more than 40 percent of the 34 suicide attempts by 21 inmates since the prison was opened in January 2002.

Miller is now in charge of all military-run U.S. prisons in Iraq, a job he took after news broke of beatings and sexual humiliations last fall at the Abu Ghraib prison near Baghdad.

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4. Yes

I'm tempted to leave it at that.
but I'll add--
Since no one has been proven guilty or even put on trial yet.

[silverlib]

5. Wow! This newbie didn't last long! (n/t)

[devinsgram]

6. With a statement like that

I can understand why the world is the way it is right now. It is those like you that make it as bad as it is today.:-( :-( :-( :-( :-(

2. coincidence?

I don't think so-o-o.

[Wickerman]

3. were these guys who suicided with multiple gunshots

to the back of their heads? That's the way BushCo* likes them.

[zanana]

7. Guantanamo is like Las Vegas.

What happens there, stays there.

[daleo]

8. They probably beat themselves severely

Or they tried to drown themselves with a "water board".
Or they tried to rape themselves to death with chemical lights.
Or they tried to throw themselves on snarling dogs.

All standard suicide techniques these days.

[Nihil]

13. Or, more simply, ...

... they were the ones who answered honestly to the question
"Will you promise to keep quiet if we let you walk out of here?"

[struggle4progress]

9. kick

:kick:

[struggle4progress]

15. and again

[Jack Rabbit]

10. Something I said when Abu Ghraib abuse first came to light

If the Bush administration wants to send signals that this situation at Abu Ghraib is just some sort of mistake, then it is sending the wrong ones. First, they have sent to clean up the wrongdoing at Abu Ghraib none other than General Geoffrey Miller, fresh from his command at Guantanamo Bay. In light of the alleged violations of human rights at Guantanamo, this seems a bit like trying to clear up some irregularities in the accounting department by putting a suspected embezzler in charge.
Second, Mr. Bush has appointed and the US Senate has confirmed John Negroponte as US ambassador to Iraq. It is widely regarded that as US ambassador to Iraq Mr. Negroponte will act as the colonial governor, replacing Paul Bremer. Mr. Negroponte's current post is as ambassador to the United Nations, where he was instrumental in promoting the prevarications that Mr. Bush used to justify the invasion of Iraq. However, what makes Mr. Negroponte's appointment as ambassador to Iraq even more curious is his history as a facilitator of human rights violations when he served as ambassador to Honduras during the Reagan years.

Who is Repsonsible? by Jack Rabbit, Democratic Underground, May 11

[yardwork]

11. Honduras? Oh no.

The nightmare keeps getting worse and worse.

I wonder what atrocities are taking place right this minute that we won't learn about for months if ever.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

12. Were they really "suicide" attempts, or were they something else?

[Fozzledick]

14. Sensory deprivation torture is designed to drive victims insane

The sensory deprivation and extreme disorientation torture techniques now being used by the U.S. military against P.O.W.'s and civilian political prisoners are specifically designed to drive their victims insane. They are based largely on the work of a Canadian psychology professor who was researching possible environmental causes of schizophrenia in hope of developing effective treatments. He committed suicide after it was exposed that British intelligence agents under the direction of the C.I.A. were using his findings to torture I.R.A. prisoners. That's why the British public reaction to the first photos of hooded and bound P.O.W.'s was so strong and immediate: They recognized the techniques being used from the previous scandal over their use in Ireland.

(on edit:link: see halfway down page)
http://www.peace.ca/mindcontroloperations.htm

[saigon68]

16. MILLER IS A REAL PIECE OF WORK

saw the THUG on 60 Minutes tonght. He is a REAL WAR CRIMINAL not a wannnabe A REAL WAR CRIMINAL