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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 02:47 AM
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Senate Blocks Bid to Demand Abuse Memos
Backing President Bush, Republicans in the Senate on Wednesday defeated a bid by Democrats to force the administration to release documents on the treatment of enemy combatants in the wake of the prisoner abuse scandal in Iraq.

On a party-line vote, the Senate defeated 50-46 an amendment demanding Attorney General John Ashcroft turn over documents on the interrogation and treatment of prisoners in Iraq, Afghanistan and Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

Democrats accused Republicans of cooperating with a White House cover-up of policies that they said may have contributed to the scandal at Abu Ghraib prison near Baghdad where photographs showed U.S. soldiers abusing detainees.

Republicans charged Democrats with playing election-year politics on an issue that was damaging the United States' reputation and intelligence gathering abilities.

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http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/politics/politics-security-usa-congress.html
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jbfam4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 03:01 AM
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1. How sad
The republicans don't want the information because they know it goes to the top. Obviously, they are not there to do their job, but are there to protect this administrqation.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 03:04 AM
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2. It's time for more photographs to come out
in the news!
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 05:37 AM
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7. Show the rape of children to extract information from mothers,
Mrs. Cleaver will then handle the republican Senate.
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cmutt Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 08:26 AM
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14. it's VERY sad

Obviously, our 'self-appointed-morally-superior' right-wing leadership feels it's more important to protect their current-position-of-power than it is to protect the largely innocent from torture, rape, and murder.

Hurry, purchase your "Republican doll" today! It now comes with a handly morality ON/OFF switch!
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 03:07 AM
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3. Otherwise known as a conspiratorial coverup.
Reputation? What about the reputation for transparency, democratic values, justice, humanity, human rights, faith in the wisdom of the people to decide for themselves, and all the other lofty ideals Republicans love to give speeches about?
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 03:29 AM
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4. Be nice of they could be arrested
for being parties to a conspiracy...similar to the law they use to arrest gangs.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 07:38 AM
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13. Keep asking the question "WHAT ARE THEY HIDING?"
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GoBlue Donating Member (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 03:42 AM
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5. The Repubs rationale says it all
because they know they are responsible for the damage that's not yet finished. Wouldn't want the electorate to know that.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 04:39 AM
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6. The Republicans are obviously frightened. eom
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 05:44 AM
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8. Republicans do not believe in Democracy!!!
We are now living in a Right Wing Dictatorship.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 06:09 AM
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9. It's unfair to make such a sweeping statement about all Republicans ...

... but I think it comes close to the mark for many of the extremists now in power.

Moreover, the "right wing dictatorship" has not completely consolidated its power: this is good for us because it means there are still opportunities to deflect their power grab, but it also means that the public only gradually becoming conscious of the dangers and is (in large part) likely to reject (as hysterical and paranoid) any description of the government as "Right Wing Dictatorship."
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 08:40 AM
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17. NO, NO, NO.
The friend of my enemy is my enemy as well.

If these "Good Republicans" want to show that they are not with the "extremists," then they have to step up, STOP SUPPORTING THE FILTHY LYING NEOCONS, and take their lumps.

That, or be counted with the filth. No third path. Period.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 09:50 AM
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19. I basically agree with that philosophy.

But I do know moderate Repubs.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 09:53 AM
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20. Exactly. "The friend of my enemy is my enemy as well"
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 06:27 AM
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10. "Playing election-year politics," eh?
And how would that be different from what the Pugs have done every freaking day (elections be damned) for the past 12 years? "Playing politics" can't be that bad. Republicans do it every waking minute!

:freak:
dbt

PS: Damaging the US reputation??? Look at what squats in the White House, then we'll talk about damage!
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 06:31 AM
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11. Oh gee, rightwingers..whatever happened to the "if you have nothing to
hide, you'd show the documents" theory you all were constantly spewing during the Clinton years?

Republicans have become walking talking living caricatures of themselves...

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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 06:54 AM
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12. Not ONE rethug crossed
over, so much for the myth of "moderate" rethugs. Even chafee and snowe opposed this. We must work to remove EVERY one of them. Of course, the Democrats very own repuke voted along with them.

NAYs ---50
Alexander (R-TN)
Allard (R-CO)
Allen (R-VA)
Bennett (R-UT)
Bond (R-MO)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burns (R-MT)
Campbell (R-CO)
Chafee (R-RI)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Cochran (R-MS)
Coleman (R-MN)
Collins (R-ME)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Craig (R-ID)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeWine (R-OH)
Dole (R-NC)
Domenici (R-NM)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Fitzgerald (R-IL)
Frist (R-TN)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hagel (R-NE)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Lott (R-MS)
Lugar (R-IN)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Miller (D-GA)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Nickles (R-OK)
Roberts (R-KS)
Santorum (R-PA)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Smith (R-OR)
Snowe (R-ME)
Specter (R-PA)
Stevens (R-AK)
Talent (R-MO)
Thomas (R-WY)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Warner (R-VA

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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 08:33 AM
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15. I just called Zell's office - AGAIN -
as a constituent of his and a lifelong Democrat to - AGAIN - express my extreme disappointment.

This is getting old. I should have that number on speed dial by now.
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 08:43 AM
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18. PIGS. ALL of them.
You lie down in the sty, then you can't complain about getting muddy.

And I think the first thing the Democratic Party should do is REVOKE THAT FUCKER MILLER'S MEMBERSHIP. NOW.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 10:15 AM
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21. ALL Repugs are RIGHT WING NAZI SYMPATHIZERS!!!!!
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 10:23 AM
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22. Miller was the only Dem to vote with the Repugs on this.
His fellow Democrats must really hate him.
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 08:36 AM
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16. Start screaming "cover up!"
The Dems need to pound this message to the media at every turn.

Cover up

Cover up

Cover up

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