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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:09 AM
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Sen. (Zell) Miller to Speak at GOP Convention
By JEFFREY McMURRAY
Associated Press Writer

June 25, 2004, 11:00 AM EDT


WASHINGTON -- Georgia Sen. Zell Miller, the highest profile Democrat to endorse President Bush for re-election, will speak at the Republican National Convention later this summer, a congressional aide said Friday.

Miller drew a sharp rebuke from the dean of Georgia's congressional delegation, Democratic Rep. John Lewis, who called the senator's decision "a shame and a disgrace."

According to the aide, who spoke on condition of anonymity, Miller will give his address on Wednesday night of the four-day convention in New York that begins Aug. 30. The Bush-Cheney campaign was expected to make an official announcement later in the day.

The speech by Miller, a former two-term governor, comes 12 years after he delivered the keynote address for Bill Clinton at the 1992 Democratic National Convention, also held in New York.

more.............

http://www.newsday.com/news/politics/wire/sns-ap-miller-gop-convention,0,798463.story?coll=sns-ap-politics-headlines
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WillParkinson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:10 AM
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1. Join them Zell....
Let the crap swirl down together.
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Sparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:11 AM
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2. That figures.
I seriously want to know what is this guy trying to prove? He says he doesn't want to switch parties. WHAT THE HELL IS HE TRYING TO PROVE?!
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:12 AM
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3. We should have a public exorcism of Zell at the Dem convention.
Give him the official Democratic Party "f*ck yourself".
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cmf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:13 AM
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4. "the highest profile Democrat to endorse President Bush for re-election"
They should make that "the only 'Democrat' to endorse President Bush for re-election"
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24HRrnr Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 02:03 PM
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49. Ed Koch
did too. Still can't figure out why....:shrug:
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:13 AM
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5. Why I don't understand is
Edited on Fri Jun-25-04 10:14 AM by liburl
why he doesn't switch parties. :mad: He continuously and consistently speaks on behalf of the Republicans and derides the Democrats telling us how terrible we are. So if he doesn't find us aligned to his liking (which he expresses through his words and deeds), then SWITCH! Dammit!!!
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Frodo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:22 AM
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12. He's more effective for them this way.
But I will at least give him credit for standing on his word. He said he wouldn't leave the party.

He obviously COULD have done a switch when Jeffords did his and we would never have controlled the Senate. It meant a LOT back then.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:31 AM
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17. Give him credit?
Sometimes I wonder if you are the voice of reason or that with a "t" in front of it. Give me a break!!!!!!! :puke: :puke: :puke:
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Frodo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:34 AM
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18. So you are saying...
Edited on Fri Jun-25-04 10:34 AM by Frodo
that you would not have minded if he switched when Jeffords did?

You were happier when we didn't control the Senate?


He was approached at the time - and lobied HARD to switch.

He still voted for Daschle.


I'm not saying that I'm not ticked at him NOW, just that I appreciated it THEN.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:34 AM
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20. You do have a point and one we could capitalize on
Edited on Fri Jun-25-04 10:35 AM by liburl
Granted, my knee jerk reaction is what I posted above. But strategically, maybe we should consider telling everyone loud and clear that we are a party of inclusion and we embrace Zell Miller. Even though we disagree with his views, he has a right to speak his mind.

Then help the good people of Georgia vote in a REAL Democrat. :)
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Frodo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:37 AM
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21. Well.... "embrace" might be too strong
lol.


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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:43 AM
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26. Oh no!
Embrace him till his buggy little eyes pop out of their sockets kind of like he landed on Mars and has no oxygen! :P

LOL
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:41 AM
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24. Repukes are probably asking him to NOT switch parties
Because repukes think it looks better to say they have a "High ranking Democrat" endorsing Bush.

Democrats know better

:mad:
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Frodo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:52 AM
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31. I agree.
I also agree generally with "Democrats know better". But not all Democrats in GA... and not all independent voters.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 11:38 AM
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42. It's also very helpful to have Republican plants available to keep
Dems platform conservative and keep the rationalizations for the bizzare RW behavior going.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:13 AM
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6. F*&K HIM. Can we kick him out of the party?
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:15 AM
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7. If we can, we should! Otherwise
we need to put pressure on him to switch.
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Frodo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:25 AM
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14. Sure! If you want other senators to lose seats on committee
Edited on Fri Jun-25-04 10:27 AM by Frodo
Commitee balance is often adjusted whenever the balance of the overall senate changes. It would be very likely that we would lose one seat on each commitee to reflect the "new" balance of the Senate.

Now, this reorg is fillibusterable (is that a word?), so they couldn't force it, but since it started with our own action it would look bad.

Alternatively, they could ADD one republican to each commitee (not both), which could be almost as bad.


The best thing to do is just leave him where he is and ignore him. He'll be gone in a few months anyway and kicking him out will only draw extra attention to it.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:17 AM
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8. I'm ashamed to be from Georgia!
I don't know what happened to this idiot! I could MAYBE understand if he was running for office again, and he switched parties because Georgia seems to have changed to completely Pub. But he's getting out of politics, and retiring to his North Ga. residence (probably a tent in the woods to be with nature!) WHY IS HE DOING THIS?

He's not smart enough to be doing it to energize the Dems! But I think that's what's happening!
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Gildor Inglorion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:23 AM
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13. Hi, napi21 - don't EVER be ashamed to be from Georgia -
just be deeply ashamed and repulsed by ol' sorry-ass Zell Miller. I think he's lost his mind. I'm from Ellijay, by the way....not far from Flowery Branch or Young Harris. :D
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 05:02 PM
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50. Don't you realize how he is making Ga. look with all this?
I can't even remember who was running against him, but I voted for him! He makes me feel about Ga. the same way I think I would feel if I had lived in Florida during that 2000 mess.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:17 AM
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9. The Time Has Come, Sir
To purge this reptile from the Party.

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:21 AM
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11. PURGE is not a strong enough sentiment.
Bum's Rush or Frog March works better.

Can't this FUCK be kicked out?
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:42 AM
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25. You May Be Sure, Mr. Durden, My Sentiment Exceeds My Expression
"Kill one, warn one hundred."

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:48 AM
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29. I used the word "exorcism" earlier.
nt
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qazplm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:27 AM
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16. well
how is he any different than the people on the far left who vote Green or wont vote for Kerry b/c he isnt left enough but say they are democrats?

He is just the reverse, says he is a democrat but wont vote for them and supports the Reps because the party isnt right enough.

I have equal disdain for both!

Be a man and say you are whatever group you are actually giving your support to.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:40 AM
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23. That Is True, Sir
He is a sort of mirror to the splinterists on the left. His official position gives him a higher profile, however; none of the splinterists hold any office. A public demonstration must be made in this case....

"Justice must not only be done; it must be seen to be done."

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"
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Jack The Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:21 AM
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10. Too bad the Dems can't publicly denounce him...
To do so would just give the repugs ammunition about how Dem's "don't respect independent thought" or some shit like that.

This guy is a clown and should be lampooned everywhere possible.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:46 AM
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28. The hell they can't - and we should ALL be calling the DNC about this!
This is our party. Miller's actions are a betrayal of the worst kind. If we don't call the party and let them know that we want to see Miller booted from the party, then we have no room to complain.

Their main phone number is 202-863-8000. If somebody has a different number that's more specific, please post it ASAP.
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:26 AM
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15. It's useful to the repubs to be able to say a Dem
supports Bush or doesn't support Kerry. Zell is a Judas goat.
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Frangible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:34 AM
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19. People still call him a "democrat"?
He may have a little (D) after his name, but he's a Republican in every other way.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:40 AM
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22. National Best-Seller book? It was bulk-ordered
Edited on Fri Jun-25-04 10:40 AM by LynneSin
Miller's recent book, "A National Party No More: The Conscience of a Conservative Democrat," is now a national best-seller. In it, he assails members of his own party, including Clinton.

Democrats should strip him from every committee he is on and boot him out of the party. And to top things - they should pick Max Cleland as Kerry's VP

:mad:
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:46 AM
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27. He is more harmful to our cause than a help and needs to go
Granted there will be some committees that get a little disrupted but not many and most everyone is focused on upcoming elections anyway. We need to publicly strip him of his Democratic membership and let it be known that we are a diverse party but not a party that tolorate a traitor. He is a traitor to not only the Democratic Party but to the USA as well. He supports the treasonous Bush* Cabal and that is treason IMHO. He needs to go NOW. We can not afford to wait until his time is up and he sails off into the sunset laughing all the way to the bank. Republicans kicked David Duke out of the Republican Party so it certainly can be done. He is extremely harmful to Democracy and the Democratic Party.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:50 AM
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30. If he were a Maine Senator...
I'd have a motion on the floor of the next Democratic State Committee meeting to disown him.

What a disgrace!
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skippysmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:53 AM
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32. This is ludicrous
The Democratic leadership should throw him out on his ass.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:59 AM
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33. He can go FUCK himself
and Cheney can help.
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dmkinsey Donating Member (789 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 11:05 AM
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34. I hope
Zell is struck down by a bolt of lightning or perhaps a meteor.
Dave
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 11:06 AM
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35. If we had a left wing Rush-like echo chamber then we could....
sucessfully blast and ruin this Hitler!!!

Gee, what about Zell's connections to the KKK???
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Liberal Gramma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 11:15 AM
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36. When does this turncoat come up for re-election?
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wkirby Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 11:22 AM
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39. He's not seeking re-election.
He decided to do it with the intentions of only doing it for one term.


-Will
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 11:15 AM
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37. Should Ron, Patti, and Nancy Reagan
speak at the Dem convention?
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wkirby Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 11:28 AM
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41. Michael Reagan
I bet we could convince Michael Reagan, but Nancy - I HIGHLY doubt it.


-Will
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 11:46 AM
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46. I think you have Michael and Ron confused
When Ronald Reagan was married to Jane Wyman, they adopted two children, a daughter Maureen, now deceased, and Michael. Jane Wyman got custody of the two young children when they divorced. I don't think they saw Ronald Reagan very often when they were growing up.

Then Ronald Reagan married Nancy and they had two children, Patti and Ron. I think I read somewhere that Patti didn't know that Maureen and Michael even existed until she was 9 or 10 years old.

Maureen and Michael were/are in the conservative camp.

Patti and Ron are much more liberal.
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 12:20 PM
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47. Sarah and Jim Brady spoke at the Democratic convention one year.
Edited on Fri Jun-25-04 12:21 PM by CBHagman
You'll recall that Jim Brady was the White House press secretary who was badly wounded when John Hinckley opened fire. His wife, Sarah, is a gun control advocate, and the two of them appeared at the Democratic convention (I forget which year). Jim Brady WALKED onto the stage to thunderous applause (He'd pretty much been in a wheelchair since the shooting).

Anyway, they're both Republicans, but the gun control issue obviously made them feel a lot closer to the Democratic Party. If you have a chance, read Sarah Brady's memoir, "A Good Fight," which has some revealing anecdotes about members of Congress, including one current vice president with a potty mouth.
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 11:19 AM
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38. He's a Republican. What other convention WOULD he speak at?
Zell Miller, R-GA

Simple as that.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 11:28 AM
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40. "Outgoing Senator endorses Outgoing "President".
Don't let the door hit y'alls asses on the way out.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 11:39 AM
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43. is he holding a office presently.......
we need to make sure he gets out of it quickly...
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Frodo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 01:33 PM
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48. He's retiring from the US Senate (GA) at the end of the year.
Wwe even have a slight chance of picking up that seat.
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Raiden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 11:42 AM
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44. That Backstabbing GOP Whore!!!
I am so glad that Zell Miller is retiring. Fuckin' treacherous snake!
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Lavender Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 11:46 AM
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45. Good.
We don't want you or need you, Zell.
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Mike Niendorff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 06:27 PM
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51. Throw his ass out of the party.

Period.
End of story.


MDN

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guajira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 07:46 PM
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52. I Agree - Impeach the Bastard!!!!
Georgia Democrats need to get a backbone and show this traitor we Democrats won't tolerate his betrayal to the Democratic Party and to his constituants!
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