Hitler Reappears in '04 Campaign, This Time in Bush Ad (NYT!)

[struggle4progress]

By DAVID E. SANGER
Published: June 26, 2004

WASHINGTON, June 25 - Suddenly, Adolf Hitler has become a bit player in the 2004 presidential campaign.

President Bush's campaign Web site is featuring an advertisement casting Senator John Kerry and his allies as a "coalition of the wild-eyed," blending clips of former Vice President Al Gore, former Gov. Howard Dean of Vermont and the filmmaker Michael Moore shouting about Mr. Bush. Interspersed twice are images of a shouting Hitler, drawn from a Web spot that MoveOn.org, the Internet advocacy group that runs anti-Bush advertisements, briefly posted months ago in a contest for advertisements about the president.
<snip>

Mary Beth Cahill, Mr. Kerry's campaign manager, sent out a fund-raising letter on Friday accusing the Bush campaign of "losing any last sense of decency" by posting the new advertisement.
<snip>

Kerry campaign officials said that MoveOn.org operated independently and that the campaign had nothing to do with the posting of the Hitler images on MoveOn.org's Web site.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/26/politics/campaign/26webad.html

[Democat]

1. Bush is comparing himself to Hitler - how strange!

Did Karl Rove go on vacation and leave Bush in charge?

[tavalon]

14. It is weird

They got all high and mighty when a couple of the ads on Bush in 30 Seconds made reference to Hitler/Bush comparisons and now they're doing it. What the hell?

[MetaTrope]

25. Bush knows what his constituents want to see

They'll find the images of Hitler a comforting reminder to reelect him.

[symbolman]

47. Yes, but I started it all about three years ago..

with my "Bush is not a Nazi - so Stop Saying that!"

http://66.230.230.110/geeklog/public_html/staticpages/index.php?page=20040601225012523

at Take Back the Media.com

they'd thought it was MY animation and invited me on Scarobourough but in the end they played my ARMY OF ONE ad on MSNBC and LOVED it..

I was all ready to attack over hate speech, "feminazis" "Hitlery Clinton" etc and even brought a baby pacifier as a prop to hold up on camera for the Republicans..

but instead Joe the Scar like our MoveOn ad..

pass my flash around, might as well put some more poop in the soup :)

They are now speaking their own (visual) language and have lost the public.. they are toast and don't even know it..

[librechik]

54. I remember& thanks, symbolman--you're simply the best

I loved that spot and the rest of your stuff too, and of course any fool can see the similarity between the Fuhrer and the Fony, at least as far as the political phenomenon that kind of ascendance to power is (named to power by an unelected entity & so on) So it is driving me nuts that Dems can't respond vigorously to this atrocity at the Bush site -- the freeps just shoot back that it's moveon footage & suddenly you have to be on the defensive.

I'm thankful they haven't put it out as a tv spot yet--too extreme, I guess! They'd reveal their cravenness to many more folks if they did that.

Their website is a dark little corner of hell, isn't it?

[rocktivity]

57. Here's your rebuttal to "Coalition Of The Wild-Eyed", Symbolman

All you have to do is connect the dots, LOL!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=1326721&mesg_id=1326955



:headbang:
rocknation

[nolabels]

62. Here is just a mild pedestrian post from someone quite awhile ago

http://www.thegiganticheartlessmultinationalcorporation.com/id676.htm
(snip)
MLK "A time comes when silence is betrayal"

Prescott Bush financed Hitler, GHW killed 4.73 million, "W" only 10,000 deaths so far.
Re: I do not understand the us goverment -- uwe
Posted by Jolene , 02/09/2003, 08:36:09

Prescott Bush (President's Grandfather) financed Hitler into
power from 1922 onwards and had his assets confiscated by the
US Government in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act.
That was Prescott Bush's contribution to 54 million deaths.

There are similarities between Hitler invading Poland and Bush invading Iraq:

1. Each happened simply because just one warmonger politician decided to invade.

2. Both events had the Bushes behind it (Hitler had Prescott Bush from 1922)

3. Hitler only invaded Poland once, and killed less Poles than Dad Bush killed Iraqis. (Dad killed 200,000 in the war, 1.5million with sanctions - UNICEF)

4. Both Hitler and Bush chose a defencess nation to attack.
(The Iraqis could never attack America, can't and never have killed
Americans)

5. Both Bush and Hitler own the world's biggest military machines.
(There over 1,000 times more Weapons of Mass Destruction in the
USA; isn't that where the Weapons Inspectors should be sent?)

6. Both Hilter and Bush seized power by usurping the electoral process.
(Bush brothers destroyed 250,000 Democratic votes in 4 electoral frauds
in Florida, declared "W" the winner by 537 votes.)
(snip)

[truthisfreedom]

2. desperation is driving rove to ditch the whole campaign in favor of the

other guy? hahahahaha. goofballs at the helm.

[Pachamama]

3. Watch it on the Bush/F*ck 04 website...its unbelieving...what is funny...

...is that I actually feel that they are showing themselves as the Nazis...what's creepy is the end w/ Bu$h and the music....

http://www.georgewbush.com

[givemebackmycountry]

4. Wait a minute...

This can't be real.

Are you serious?
Bush using Hitler in a campaign ad?
Juxtaposed with pictures of Kerry, Gore, Gephardt and Micheal Moore?

Are they insane?

I watched this and I thought, are they crazy?

What's worse is I watched it as Joe Scarborough was playing in the background on a re-run, screaming about how Fahrenheit 9/11 was a "bunch of lies" and tried to discredit everyone who had anything positive to say about it.

HITLER on a sitting Presidents campaign website?

This is so freakin' huge I can't believe that this ad was placed on there by anyone other than a hacker.

Are you serious?

Are they that crazed?

This should spell the end if this hits the major news networks.

Once America sees this ad, and Fahrenheit 9/11 in the same weekend, this clown is done.

John Hinkley could not have done a better job.

[freeforall]

20. Amazing! Hitler, then Bush

I can't get any sound with this clip so I can't hear what they're saying, but it was astonishing to see the shot of Hilter saluting, which segued into a shot of Bush in the same pose.

Watch it with the sound muted - these shots really stand out then.

These repugs are nuts. This makes them look really bad.

[Pachamama]

31. Those idiots are so busy trying to compete w/ MM for F9/11 that they ...

...thought they were being effective at countering the "outrage" with some outrage of their own and not realizing that it backfires...Leaving out Hitler in this video clip would have been not only a "higher ground" position, but it would have gotten the message of "Pessimism and Outrage" as it relates to their view of the Democratic Party and Kerry, versus putting in the film that had shots of Hitler that were taken from a "contest submission to MoveOn.org".

The problem is they are clearly amateurs and don't understand that the images of people angry w/ Hitler and then showing Bush emerging, actually leaves a correlation between Hitler and Bush, not the Democrats...so actually its pretty funny...

Bush in the end of the clip looks like "Hitler reborn and emerging"...

:evilgrin:

[drool_n_yank]

33. yeah that music at the end

is creepy , its like the stuff the dentist has playing on your head phones as the drill comes in just before you smell that white dust that used to be your tooth . These guys are shot ,
Rove says " I know , we will accuse them of being what we are and the FOX news lobotomized voters will be so confused maybe we can get 47 % and make up the difference in Florida "

[Pachamama]

38. What a mind F*ck!!! They are so confused their heads are exploding!

Your reference to the Dentist made me laugh!!! Especially since I have a Republican Dentist that canceled my appointment on June 11th for Reagan's funeral....I started going to him because a good friend had recommended him...funny thing is that the friend is so liberal and this dentist is scary right-wing....even Jerry Garcia used to go to him and Bob Weir and the rest of the band does too...I figured its because he turns up the laughing gas to 11, but he's getting to scary that I'm worried he's going to go Drugstore Cowboy on us all...The other day when I got my teeth cleaned, he told me "how dare they call Bu$h a liar - if he lied, I wouldn't support him"....I didn't say anything....I just hoped he'd be done quickly and I could leave...

[glitch]

56. Yikes! nt

[shanti]

60. geez

your dentist talks politics with you? mine just chitchats about our kids' sports activities, but i think i prefer it that way. he's a terrific, gentle dentist and i'd hate to be forced to find another one like him.

[Kimber Scott]

39. I said it before and I say it again, this is the best ad for Kerry, yet.

There is a reason they didn't put this on t.v. They're worried about how it will be perceived. They were right to worry. It shows George Bush as a Facist and a Nazi. Shame. I wish the world could see it a 100 times a day.

[texas is the reason]

58. boy will this backfire!!! the contrast between the emotion & sincerity....

shown by the dems here and the cheesy platitudes of bush at the end with the "happy happy" music only serve to show the viewer how they are being decieved and placated by the shallow, "happy music" facade that is bushes' whole appeal. This commercial emphasises that bush is the triumph of style over substance- of slick PR work over competence. exactly what we are trying to get the people to understand. Please bush, play it, and play it often!

[Just Me]

63. Cool. They are backing themselves into their own wretched corner.

Their wickedness is at the fore.

Amazing.

I am,...astounded at their desperation.

Oh, God,...I really hope they run this ad.

The American peoples' intuition would digest this.

As for me, I cannot get my jaw off the floor :wow:

Damn.

[shockingelk]

5. email from Bush* campaign about ad

Apparently, the Republicans are glad they're winning the race to the bottom:

Subject: We agree, it's disgusting

Dear e,

On Thursday, the campaign launched a web video titled Kerry's Coalition of the Wild-eyed.  The video featured Democrats who support John Kerry making negative and baseless attacks against the President.  Interspersed in the video were segments of two ads that appeared on a website sponsored by MoveOn.org - a group campaigning for Kerry - in January.

On Friday night, John Kerry's campaign denounced our use of these ads, and called that use "disgusting."

The Kerry campaign says, "The use of Adolf Hitler by any campaign, politician or party is simply wrong."

We agree.  These ads, like much of the hate-filled, angry rhetoric of Kerry's coalition of the Wild-eyed, are disgusting.

• Where was John Kerry's disgust when he hired Zack Exley - the man responsible for encouraging the production of these ads as part of a MoveOn contest - to run the Kerry campaign's internet operation?
• Where was John Kerry's sense of outrage when Al Gore, just yesterday afternoon, compared the Bush Administration to the Nazis saying, "The Administration works closely with a network of 'rapid response' digital Brown Shirts who work to pressure reporters and their editors for 'undermining support for our troops.'"
• Where was John Kerry's anger when Al Gore in May spoke of "Bush's Gulag"?
• Why has John Kerry not denounced billionaire and Democrat Party donor George Soros for comparing the Bush Administration to Nazis. Soros stated, "When I hear Bush say, 'You're either with us or against us,' it reminds me of the Germans. It conjures up memories of Nazi slogans on the walls, Der Feind Hort mit ('The enemy is listening')."
• Why has Kerry not spoken out against filmmaker Michael Moore who last October compared the Patriot Act to Mein Kampf.  "The Patriot Act is the first step. 'Mein Kampf' - 'Mein Kampf' was written long before Hitler came to power."

We created this web video to show the depths to which these Kerry supporters will sink to win in November.

Is this the Democratic Party of Franklin Delano Roosevelt who reassured his countrymen we have nothing to fear but fear itself?

No.  This is John Kerry's Coalition of the Wild-eyed, who have nothing to offer but fear-mongering.

Sincerely,

Ken Mehlman
Campaign Manager

[tlcandie]

9. It goes along with their MO....

Everyone decrying this regime as facist has every right to declare it and shout it from the rooftops! So, they in turn take what is being decried as foul and try to use it to their advantage.

Nothing new here except it doesn't fit the bill. It's empty words being flung like piles of doo trying to get something to stick when in essence it's the facists/bullies who actually fit the bill.

If you can't pull yourself away from the nasty PR then push it back onto the other person in hopes that people won't see the truth of the matter and just get caught up in the nastiness of it all!!! Sounds like a soap opera to me!

Go ahead...let them! They are definitely opening the door to unlock a dejavu connection to the past! Good luck making any of it stick! If they can do it then we can show the truth of how it corresponds to that era! BRING IT ON!

[priller]

11. This makes no sense at all

We created this web video to show the depths to which these Kerry supporters will sink to win in November.

They created a video comparing Gore and Moore and Dean to Hitler, and this is supposed to show how low *Kerry* supporters will sink? Does this make any sense to anyone?

And the reason why these guys are like Hitler is because they're "pessimistic" and "rage filled"? WTF? I don't believe I've ever heard anyone express the idea: "It's bad enough Hitler killed all those people, but his pessimism made it so much worse!"

[StopThief]

17. Did you read the article or the e-mail?

The Hitler clips are from anti-Bush ads that were posted on Moveon.org.

[Pachamama]

34. These clips WERE NOT from a MoveOn.org Ad! It was a "submitted"

...contest entrant for consideration (by an independent person) and was never used, except for apparentely by Faux news and the Republican Party...

I guess just like their definition of "contacts" between Al-Qaida contacting Saddam, that anyone who contacted MoveOn.org, makes it the entire Democratic Party - Freeper Logic...

[Pachamama]

35. These clips WERE NOT from a MoveOn.org Ad! It was a "submitted"

...contest entrant for consideration (by an independent person) and was never used, except for apparentely by Faux news and the Republican Party...

I guess just like their definition of "contacts" between Al-Qaida contacting Saddam, that anyone who contacted MoveOn.org, makes it the entire Democratic Party - Freeper Logic...

[shockingelk]

44. Yeah, it's ironic

When they use the exact same Hitler imagery as Dems do, it's not outrageous, it's making a thoughtful point.

[2Design]

19. freudian projection.....project the parts of you .....you can not accept

they truly are representative of the nazi...and this shows it even more

[Media_Lies_Daily]

28. Every time that ad plays to a GOP voter he or she is going to have to...

...think about what each of those individuals has said in regards to the way our country is currently being run. And that, IMHO, will raise far more questions among people that are already beginning to wonder what's going on with their party's leadership.

Additionally, if they're the least bit curious about ad that was originally shown by MoveOn.org, they might be tempted to actually find it and watch it. MoveOn.org couldn't have paid enough money to buy that kind of advertising.

When you add the GOP campaign document referenced above, there ia an air of MAJOR desperation about their attempts to smear Kerry, Moore, Gore and other Democrats. IMHO, that's not a very good way to prop up their struggling campaign.

[jeff30997]

6. When Dumbass appear at the end...

With the music and all...I laughed like crazy!

[kungfugrip]

7. That's got to be the worst campaign ad ever...

eom

[mandyky]

8. The GOP is scared to death of Democrats

marching in lock step! I think they are beginning to see just how determined we are to get shrub out. I am a lukewarm Kerry supporter but I will do whatever I can do to get rid of this current administration.

The right calling us wild eyed Nazis is so hypocritical. If there are any Nazis in America, they hail from the right!

[DoYouEverWonder]

10. I find this ad very confusing

If it was on the Bush Cheney website and if I didn't know about the Move On ad, I would think it was an anti-Bush ad.

Way to go assholes.

[dusty64]

12. Yup, I hope they keep

up the "good" work, they are imploding.

[oceanpoetry]

13. that's awesome!

It appears that they are using the images of Hitler to denigrate Bush's critics -the funny thing is that what they are saying is true - and makes Bush look worse - I love it!!!!! The music at the end is a nice touch, kind of like what you expect in campaign for school librarian - maybe Laura chose it, LOL!

[Tansy_Gold]

15. If the clips were taken from MoveOn's contest entries,

did the boosh campaign get permission from the creators of the videos? I understand they don't need permission for archival footage of Hitler, but if there is anything in those clips that is uniquely the creation of those who entered the contest, the booshies could be in violation of copyright law.

I'd love for someone to sue them.

[demgrrrll]

16. Images of Hitler are risky to say the least. Comparing Bush to Hitler went

no where and I think they actually got a little positive traction from being able to complain about the Bush/Hitler comparisons. So they decide to use the same tactic against Kerry? This reminds me of a fighter who knows they are going down but keeps flailing away in any direction looking to make some sort of contact.

[54anickel]

18. Uniquely the creation of the contestant? Yep, they had Shrub's quotes

on God telling him to stike at Al-qaeda blazened on the images. That's what I thought was the greatest part!

[Wind Dancer]

29. My thoughts exactly! n/t

[thecrow]

21. They have lost their minds!

But I love it!
When I first went to the website and saw the ad I thought , "Oh, this is a B*sh mocking site!" Then I realized it was the real thing and I was confused as hell.
I love this ad because it displays Al Gore during his "How Dare They" speech (the best lines, too!)and John Kerry speaking out against taxes very effectively. Comments form MM, Gephardt, and Dean wer against B*sh! The overlay then of Hitler was a confusing part that I thought was a reference to B*sh!
And they even left Moveon.org's website address in the video!
So they are advertising for Moveon.org! BIZARRE!
Then the bit about "God told me to smite the Iraqis..." was just delicious , although they should edit that part so it is easier to read!
EXTREMELY confusing to have had the Smirk at the end!
That's when I thought,"Whose website am I at???"
Imploding? YES!!!
Insane? YES!!!!
:wtf:
They are advertising for us!

[struggle4progress]

22. I thought it was almost a good ad for Kerry. But then ...

I started to wonder: how badly divided is the country really? Maybe this ad really would reinforce many people's beliefs that they should vote for Bush? I mean, I don't see how -- but maybe America is so badly divided that I can't even understand how a large chunk of the population thinks. :(

[skooooo]

23. They're off the deep end...

...combined with the message of the F911 movie, Bush is in bad shape. Let's hope the polls start to reflect it.

[reprobate]

40. Oh, the polls WILL reflect it. Just wait a little while.

Kerry has not even named a running mate yet. For Bush and Kerry to be statistically tied now means that * is in big trouble. When the ticket is final, that's when a lot of people will decide, and it looks like "Kerry" and "Landslide" are going to be joined.

[Pachamama]

36. I had same reaction! I spent over 15 years in Marketing for MSFT w/ a

...lot of time spent in Focus Groups and working on how people respond to images/messages etc.....

I had the exact same response and experience as you described...in fact, the very end with Bush "emerging" after images of Hitler felt like "Re-birth"...

Very bizarre...but, exhiliarting! They are doing our work for us!

LOVE IT! :kick:

PS: I thought it also was a "joke website"...I thought it was a joke when the Kerry campaign sent out their email telling people about it titled "disgusting"....I was so disgusted, I gave a $1000 right there and told them to go spend it countering these a-holes...I've maxed out on donations to their campaign now...hmmm...so now I'll contribute to any and all groups that can attack these a-holes...I'm meeting tommorrow with the founder of 1000flowers.org for brunch...I'm strategizing with her on how to promote her program across the country....

http://www.1000flowers.org

http://www.badbabes.org

PROUD TO BE A BAD BABE!!!!

[NJmaverick]

24. Remember the Republicans say using Hitler is most "Vile"

Here is what the Republicans had to say about adds from to PRIVATE citizens that had compared bush to Hitler.

But two of more than 1,500 submissions have outraged Republicans and leading Jewish groups for comparing Mr. Bush, in profile and policy, to Hitler.

"This is the worst and most vile form of political hate speech," Ed Gillespie, chairman of the Republican National Committee, said in one of several statements he issued. He urged the nine Democrats running for president to repudiate the advertisements.

[salin]

41. Thought of that, as well...

either they can't use that line again... or if/when they do (and they will...) they are begging for some comparisons which demonstrate that they out flip-flop the democrats at a ratio of about 3:1.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

42. Funny..they think it's fine when Rush calls women "feminazi's"

[qwertyMike]

26. Kerry should run the whole video

in his campaign ads with no comments.

Turn it back on them.

[Pachamama]

37. Along with the quote from Ed Gillespie...Hah! n/t

:kick:

[qwertyMike]

27. I would say Adolf was the supreme optimist

IN HIS FUCKIN' DREAMS

Like W

[Fovea]

30. I thought it was a product endorsement...

The corporal and the AWOL...

[neuvocat]

32. I finally saw that ad last night.

It was just bizarre. You've got democrats yelling then you see a picture of Hitler talking about Al Queda then you've got the democrats yelling again then you got Bush with happy-music. Its just bizarre.

[Pachamama]

43. THIS AD IS GREAT - CAN A DUer SAVE IT AND POST IT?

...before the freeps and Bush/Cheney catch on and delete it....I was trying to save it and couldn't....

Please someone save the file and post it somehow if you can...this ad will go down in history as the all-time biggest f*ck-up of the administration....

This way other DUers can see it after it "disappears" like an enemy combatant...

[TheFarseer]

45. you know what they say about the first side

to bring up Hitler? That's right, they lose. Earlier this week, Clinton is like Hitler and now Kerry is lke Hitler. I can not see even the most remote similarities between Hitler and either of those two. Does anyone else see anything AT ALL? Of course if you want to compare their man and Hitler I think you can on a few levels without much of a stretch.

[scarface2004]

46. let me see if i got this straight....

gore, kerry, dean, and michael moore state some obvious facts....and then bush and hitler come out saluting the fascist takeover of a country??!!

what a clever kerry campaign ad!

[2cents]

48. LOL risky play

He might be risking the splintering of his clueless wannabe-fascist base by inadvertently encouraging them to vote for Kerry.

[progressivebydesign]

49. The thing that pisses me off..

Bush campaign now has a note on the wesbite/ad saying that the Hitler piece was from "a Kerry SUPPORTER" ad. The MoveON contest had NOTHING to do with a particluar candidate.. that entry came in before any nominee was presumed... And.. it was taken off MoveOn's site and disavowed. Bush's people just can't stop lying, can they? It wasn't a "group of Kerry supporters" that used the Hitler image.. :grr:

[Francine Frensky]

50. that's right -- I saw the contest entries when they were on Moveon

and that was like Nov/Dec of last year, way, way,way before Kerry was even nominated.

[w4rma]

52. I'm not sure they were lying. I the GOP folks are bonkers and have trouble

telling fact from fiction and using logic. :crazy: This, imho, is more apparant than usual in this particular case.

[Zorra]

51. Here is a picture of the first American "coalition of the wild eyed"

many republicans of today apparently support totalitarianism and would have supported monarchy and sought refuge in Canada at the time this first American "coalition of the wild eyed" was successful in establishing democracy.

These guys gave some pretty fiery speeches and wrote some pretty radical stuff. Things like Patrick Henry saying "Give me liberty, or give me death." Or Jefferson writing about a government of, by, and for the people".

Now we have to rid ourselves of another "King George" that despises democracy. So it's really no surprise that Rove and his cronies would refer to those that want to preserve democracy as a "coalition of the wild eyed".

[Endangered Specie]

53. ITS spriiiiingtime for Bushler and Americaaaaaa.

[banana republican]

55. Jr. is throwing in the towel

he knows he cannot win.

The strategy is to let Kerry win in November and take back the house and senate in '06.

We ***MUST*** take back congress or it will be a repeat of monica 24/7 in '07.

[Carolab]

59. Actually I like the idea

of using it back on them. I suggested this to the DNC, in fact, when they asked me to sign their petition asking the Bush campaign to remove this from their website. I also told Bush to watch out or we'd make sure EVERYONE knows about grandpa Prescott and his arms trading to the Nazis!!!

[54anickel]

61. Check out the REVISED edition:

http://www.georgewbush.com/Default.aspx

They've added a few "disclaimers"