CNN: State of Emergency declared in New York State

[Trek234]

On CNN TV now.

[CO Liberal]

1. Can Martial Law Be Far Behind????

:tinfoilhat:

[FlashHarry]

6. I'm waiting for 'Marshall Law.'

[Eat_The_Rich]

14. The Holy Grail of Rock Guitar Amps

circa 1969, 50w Marshall small box head with two 4 x 12 bottoms loaded with 25w Greenbacks...

[Pert_UK]

19. ROFL! I miss my Marshall stack........

100W Head, 2x12 cab.....marvellous.

P.

[QuietStorm]

17. sorry I am not buying an accidental trip off of major circuits

in Niagra falls.

[arcane1]

2. and Iraq has been without power OR water for how long..?

:shrug:

[donsu]

5. that's what I was thinking

nt

[lebkuchen]

8. Great point

Excellent

[Jacobin]

11. Had the same thought

Months and it wasn't an accident. We blew their stuff up.

[bpilgrim]

12. I hope we don't hire the same crew they got in URAQ!

BUSH KNEW, CHENEY DID IT!

peace

[Fleshdancer]

3. Homeland Security

It'll be interesting to see how effective our new homeland security program is in this situation.

[joeybee12]

7. Why are the so-called "officials"...

...the media keep referring to so convinced this isn't an act by terrorists. I'm not saying it is--the heat could have easily overloaded the system, and to me that seems the most logical explantion. My point is---there's no way they can friggin' tell at this point! Come to a conclusion without any evidence!

[Champion Jack]

4. Send in the National Guard!!!!

Oh wait,....
we can't,...




they're all in Iraq......

[lebkuchen]

9. Aren't EU AWACS still patroling US skies?

The Germans are patroling US bases here in Germany, so they can't come.

Try the Coalition of the Willing. :eyes:

[NashVegas]

10. Great Northeast Blackout of 1965

http://www.ceet.niu.edu/faculty/vanmeer/outage.htm

It was evening rush hour on November 9, 1965. The power lines from Niagra Falls to New York City were operating near their maximum capacity. At about 5:15 a transmission line relay failed. Now there was insufficient line capacity for New York City. New England and New York are inter-connected on a power grid, and the power that had been flowing toward New York City had to go elswhere, instantly. The grid wan't prepared to handle this overload. Normally, this kind of minute to minute adaptation of the grid is a matter of adjusting to excess demand, not excess supply. When one power company has insufficient generating capacity it draws power from the grid. If the current load increases on the grid, the voltage begins to decline. In response, companies with additional capacity crank up their generators to push the voltage back up. On this evening in 1965 there was insufficient capacity to make up the current turned off by the blown relay in one part of the grid. Elsewhere (mainly in Ontario) parts of the grid were overloaded by the current diverted northward, leading generator operators to trigger shutdowns to protect their equipment. Almost the entire grid failed. A very few small power companies disconnected from the grid and kept operating independently. Other grids to which New England was connected, disconnected from the New England grid, leaving it on its own.

More ...

[Corgigal]

13. interesting article

that said this:

Not that a power failure cannot happen, but controls were developed so that one failure cannot propagate to shut down an interstate grid. Sanity dictates that if there is a serious outage, only enough area should be blacked out so that the rest of the grid can continue in service.


So what happened then?

[NashVegas]

15. Heehee

Kinda failed, I guess.

[DarbyUSMC]

16. How disgusting is it that our biggest worry here in Rochester and

other cities I suppose, isn't seeing that people are taken care of on life support or that we get people out of elevators or any number of top priority things. Oh, no. Our priority has to be protecting people from having their stores looted and vandalized when it gets dark tonight.

Even in an emergency situation, like our ice storms up here when we lose power, it can never be said that the whole community pulled together. Our law enforcement has to go out in force to see that people don't pilfer and end up killing one another while on a rampage. Why? Are people already idiots when they do this or does something come over them? It leads me to believe that there will always be a segment of the population who aren't really "living" here. They don't participate in life in this country. They don't vote, don't care about their future in any way, they think the biggest thing in life is drinking until passed out or scoring drugs. Without knowing, I'd guess these are the same people who waste their money on lotto tickets, watch Jerry Springer and buy the tabloids. Am I cynical? I have to say yes.

I worked for Social Services for too many years. This isn't a race thing. No, it is an ignorant thing. In the county where I worked ninety percent of our clients were rural white people. There is a whole section of our population who live day to day, from hand to mouth and don't care one iota about anyone but themselves. Not everyone on assistance is like that. There is, however, that portion of our population who, if we lived in a different country, would be locked away for their own and other people's good.

When I hear about people in Europe being killed at their soccer games or people here rioting after their team wins or if it loses, I sit here with a dismayed look on my face. What happens in life that causes people to be numb to living amongst other people? What about people like those who write hate mail to this site. I just noticed that link and went there to read an example. There's no end to it but at least we can choose enlightenment; we can choose to use common sense in life's emergency situations. It would appear that people by themselves might opt to do the right thing but people in a group can be led if they aren't strong enough to resist doing wrong.

[VolcanoJen]

18. Thanks for that, DarbyUSMC.

That was a very thoughtful and well-written entry, if you don't mind my saying!

I always find it completely disillusioning when people can't pull together in a crisis and set important, life-affirming priorities. I think we came very, very close to doing that, as a nation, in those tense days after 9/11, without any nudging or help from our leadership. We did it because, well, probably because we didn't know what else to do. But it gave me strength then, and hope in our future, that people cared for each other, if only for a few moments. They really did.

I haven't lost *all* hope yet,
Jennifer :-)