Former US diplomat says Rumsfeld led Bush to war

[NNN0LHI]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20030817/pl_afp/iraq_greece_us_diplomat&cid=1521&ncid=1473

ATHENS (AFP) - A former US diplomat who resigned over the Iraq war described US President George W. Bush as a "very weak" man led by the hand into battle by Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.

Brady Kiesling, who was political counsellor at the US embassy in Athens at the time of his resignation in February, said in an open letter published by Greek daily To Vima that Rumsfeld exploited the war to increase his own power.

Kiesling -- whose warning that US aims in Iraq were "incompatible with American values" struck a chord with the predominantly anti-war Greeks -- described Bush as "a politician who badly wants to appear strong but in reality is very weak."

He said Rumsfeld led Bush by the hand into war, marginalized the secret services who had doubts about the war, and emerged as the top politician in Washington.

"Easy to convince, (Bush) blindly believed in Rumsfeld's assurances that the occupation of Iraq would pay for itself," Kiesling said.

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[barbaraann]

1. What kind of "smile" is that on Rumseld's face??!!!

I have never seen anything like that in my life. Has anyone else? Seriously, this man looks deranged to me.

[montana_hazeleyes]

10. I saw a picture of Ted Bundy

with a "smile" on his face exactly like this!

[neverforget]

16. That's the smile of evil or one that has a pact with the devil.

:evilgrin:

[are_we_united_yet]

21. I'm begining to think the same thing

The elevator appears to stuck between floors with this guy

[hippiechick]

23. He just had his fangs polished ....

... and was savoring the 'minty fresh gleam'...


:hippie:

[NewYorkerfromMass]

25. I vote for the headless horseman

and so that would make Bush Ichabod Crane.

[wtmusic]

2. Didn't make Yahoo front page

but better than nothing! Rummy once again confirmed as Master Evil Puppeteer.

[Dancing_Dave]

3. Bush can't pass the buck...

...But I think that Rummy is more the Evil Mastermind of disasters from 9/11 to Iraq! :puke:

[lumpy]

4. The Jocker

in the deck.

[indictrichardperle]

5. that picture of Rumsfeld is priceless

dont tell me it came attached with the article, or did you put that up there Don ? LOL

[NNN0LHI]

6. It was with the article, and I posted it with the story

Thought it was appropriate? Click the link and you can get the full sized photo. Suitable for framing. :-)

Don

[radwriter0555]

18. Rumsfeld's 1998 Security Commission Report : READ the reason

why clinton bombed iraq, and why the bush regime moves forward with the same nefarious, profiteering agenda. http://www.fas.org/irp/threat/missile/rumsfeld/toc.htm

This info isn't from the CIA or the FBI or interpol. This is from DONALD FUKCING RUMSFELD. It's a god damned COMMISSION put together to create a freaking phony report to create a phony war.

Word for word in this doc is the rationale for destroying Iraq, the lies upon which the current invasion is based. Rummy TRIED to get clinton to whore it for him, but clinton just wouldn't go the distance.

PLEASE read the report. This section specifically deals with the lies on Iraq.

http://www.fas.org/irp/threat/missile/rumsfeld/execsum.htm

[Klapaucius]

29. He looks like...

What I would imagine a dementor would look like, under it's hood ( for all you Harry Potter fans out there), just a little more lifelike, though.

K.

[American Renaissance]

7. Forget Dr.Strangelove!

[WillyT]

8. Don't Forget To Vote This Story Up The Ladder !!!

I just did.

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:kick:

[proud patriot]

9. Please Rate the article at yahoo

Thanks .

[wryter2000]

15. Done (nt)

............

[Mari333]

11. kicking

:kick:

[jamesinca]

12. This has been know that Bush is not that bright

This has come out in several essays about him. The reason that he is so decisive is because his mind is not cluttered with thoughts of better ways to do it. That is a sign of someone that is not capable of an independant idea. Those types of articles have been posted on here several times in the past. Kennedy struggled with the Cuban missle crisis because he was able to think of the different scenarios and outcomes. Bush is not capable of this, that is why he does not struggle.

[lindashaw]

13. My thoughts, as well.

And the night of the power outage -- when he looked so out of it that some said he was drunk. My instincts were that he had just come to California and seen the protesters, the lights had gone out, parents wanted their sons back, and it struck him that he had been bamboozled by people he trusted to guide him. I think he was overwhelmed. But maybe I'm giving him too much credit...

[maggrwaggr]

20. you're giving him way too much credit

He deserves none.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

26. My instincts are that he "sees" this:

He comes to California and "sees" admiring crowds.
"UP-East" had a black out- who cares?
The war is over and the "nation building" is going swimmingly.
His dad, and his dad's people, are taking care of him. Everything is O.K.

Is that about right?

BTW: It's called seriously deluded.

[capi888]

30. Did You notice.....

When the media showed Bush responses they DID not show him at the fund raiser showing that was so terrible. I never saw that repeated after the horrible reviews he got. Rove did it again!!!:think:

[MoonAndSun]

14. just rated the article a "5",

good article, and it needs to be rated highly to stay on top of the news, this needs to be read by lots of people. I think that the American people are very slowly coming around to believing the bush* is not the one in control and he is being led by dangerous people around him. His low re-elect numbers show that he has lost the support of a lot of voters.

[Jacobin]

17. Kicked and Rated

Rings very true.

Smirk is an obvious weakling and enjoys being a bully. Rumfilled got his rocks off blowing up defenseless Iraqis. Ain't he cute.....NOT

[PaDUer]

19. You mean to tell me that

he didn't talk to POPS about this?

[Imalittleteapot]

22. Kick. Go rate this story.

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Rate the Yahoo story to kick it to the top.

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[grytpype]

24. RATE THIS A 5!!! (And didn't we know this all along, really?)

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[PartyPooper]

27. Bush is a weak, spoiled, and immature sociopath.

I still haven't figured out all of the complexities of Rumsfeld. But, I do know he is a lying, evil S.O.B.! And, we must vote all of these fascist bastards out of office next year! Otherwise, we'll be in deep doo doo. And, by 2008 it may be simply too late to save our country.

:dem:

[PennyLane]

35. At No Time in the Past

......Has it felt so hopeless. You are right of course, we must get them out or it's "good-bye yellow brick road!":eyes:

[LEFTofLEFT]

28. BULL SHIT BULL SHIT BULL SHIT

They went hand in hand. Busk loves the killing more than he claimed sadam loved killing.

Both are monsters.

[WillyT]

31. I'm Thinkin Maybe Our Freaky Freepukes Voted Here...

Vote tally now:

You have given the news article Former US diplomat says Rumsfeld led Bush to war a rating of 5. Its current average rating is 3.62 with 369 vote(s).

They're such FOLLOWERS, ya know???

:shrug:

[kittykitty]

32. Is there a Mrs Rumsfeld?? nt

[Isabel Cole]

33. letting Bush off the hook?

Kiesling's my hero, but how can he let Bush off this easily? Sure, Bush is someone's puppet - but he knows damn well what he's doing. The he "badly wants to appear strong but in reality is very week" - that's on target as a character analysis, certainly.

[DannyRed]

34. Read Rumsfeld's poetry...

In my life I have come into close personal contact with two diagnosed paranoid schizophrenics: the kind with cold sweats, paranoid delusions, and megalomaniacal illusions of omnipotence, the kind who hear voices on the radio and see secret messages on TV.

Both were creative, intelligent, sensitive men with dark sides, an inability to admit when they were wrong, and savage tempers -- their rages quickly degraded into paranoid rantings.

Both were also extremely prolific in the artistic realm, music, poetry, painting, carving, etc.

Both wrote poetry - especially during heavy psychotic episodes.

Their poetry is eerily, scarily similar to that written by Unca Donald.

[Judi Lynn]

36. Is it possible the U.S. diplomat, Brady Kiesling is helping Bush

by implying he was manipulated by a ruthless guy? Could he be doing what Enron whistle-blower Sherron Watkins did for Ken Lay by implicating the others, but claiming Ken Lay didn't really know what was going on?

Either way, it's good for as many people as possible to read this article. Thank you, Don.

"You have given the news article Former US diplomat says Rumsfeld led Bush to war a rating of 5.
Its current average rating is 3.54 with 452 vote(s)."

[salin]

38. I dont think so, based on the timing (and publicity)

of his resignation (along with two other diplomats). It was a bit of an embarassment to the WH - to have 3 quick protest resignations. Of course it was more of an international embarassment - as it was so lightly covered here at home.

[Judi Lynn]

40. Yes, you're right. I had forgotten the circumstances of his resignation.

From his letter of resignation, tendered to Colin Powell:

(snip) It is inevitable that during twenty years with the State Department I would become more sophisticated and cynical about the narrow and selfish bureaucratic motives that sometimes shaped our policies. Human nature is what it is, and I was rewarded and promoted for understanding human nature. But until this Administration it had been possible to believe that by upholding the policies of my president I was also upholding the interests of the American people and the world. I believe it no longer.

The policies we are now asked to advance are incompatible not only with American values but also with American interests. Our fervent pursuit of war with Iraq is driving us to squander the international legitimacy that has been America’s most potent weapon of both offense and defense since the days of Woodrow Wilson. We have begun to dismantle the largest and most effective web of international relationships the world has ever known. Our current course will bring instability and danger, not security. (snip/...)

http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0227-13.htm

Thanks for the reminder!

[MostlyBlackCat2]

37. kick!

:kick:

[Ganja Ninja]

39. I'm not buying this line.

"Easy to convince, (Bush) blindly believed in Rumsfeld's assurances that the occupation of Iraq would pay for itself," Kiesling said.

The above statement would be true if it weren't for the fact that the BFEE was planning this invasion before they stoled (s)election 2000.
I remember before the war one of my co-workers came into my office and was practically giddy about going to war. He said to me, “Just think we can use their oil to pay for the war and then we will be in position to go into Iran.” I guess the concept of morality is lost on him as well as Bush co.
To bad things don’t seem to going so well for them in their plan for world conquest.