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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 01:07 PM
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Recall loss could mean housecleaning
http://www.dailynews.com/Stories/0,1413,200%257E20954%257E1576452,00.html

As many as 500 of the 3,000 officials and workers appointed by the governor -- including the influential heads of nearly a dozen state agencies -- could be replaced immediately if Gray Davis is recalled on Oct. 7, experts say.

The appointees collectively wield immense power in Sacramento, including the secretary of Business, Transportation and Housing, which oversees Caltrans and the Department of Motor Vehicles; the head of the Resources Agency, which has jurisdiction over the Coastal Commission and the Santa Monica Mountains Conservancy; and the secretary of the state Environmental Protection Agency.

In addition, the governor -- in some cases, with Senate approval -- appoints hundreds of people to boards as powerful University of California regents and the California State University trustees, and as local as the San Fernando Valley Fair Board and the Baldwin Hills Conservancy Governing Board.

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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 01:08 PM
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1. That's just fucking great
Arnie really is going to clean house, per Rove's orders. This really sucks.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 01:11 PM
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2. yet another reason to vote
NO!

rat bastard rove can go to hell
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 01:16 PM
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3. Can CA be re-gerrymandered under a new gov?
This is what frightens me.
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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 01:19 PM
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4. A new gov can push for it
And Arnie probably will. But, Dems control both houses, so I don't think much would come of it.
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ping_PONG Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 01:20 PM
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5. not a chance.
That would take the complicity of the state Senate and Assembly, which is two thirds Democrat. Not a chance.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 02:34 PM
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7. Not a chance it WON'T Happen
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 02:25 PM
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6. Damn! I thought this was an article about Repukes cleaning their OWN house
if they lose the recall election.

I think the big one (commission) to watch in this case is the CCC (California Coastal Commission). Repukes tend to hate this since it has VERY strong powers over a 5-mile wide strip from the Pacific Ocean inland and from the top of CA to the bottom. Don't forget, the majority of Californians live within 30 miles of the ocean.

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duid12 Donating Member (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 03:23 PM
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9. ccc
>>(California Coastal Commission).

Is that the same CCC that is supposed to protect the shoreline and beach for the public good, but instead collects large "donations" from multi-millionaire hollywood types and allows them to do whatever the f* they want? Including preventing the average Joe from access "their" beach?
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 03:28 PM
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10. with house cleaning
There would be no need for the large donations, the CCC would just refuse to enforce public access laws. Would allow the wealthy to spend more on buying politicians.

BTW, the repubs in CA wanted to eliminate the CCC budget entirely, as part of their plan to deal with the budget.
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:04 PM
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11. Er, yeah...there has been a bit of 'drift' as to their mission
When that wasn't as successful as the repukes wanted, they started attacking the whole thing.
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rustydad Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:12 PM
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12. Depends.....
Lately the CCC has been doing a pretty good job. Here in Santa Barbara a golf course was approved years ago by both the County and the CCC. It has been held up by envirmentalists and finally taken back to the present CCC because of new circumstances (frogs and white tailed kites). The CCC sent the developer packing for good. The CCC is as good as the Governor makes it with his appointments. Wilson was flat terrible, Davis much better but not perfect. Bob
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duid12 Donating Member (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:18 PM
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13. beach access
Sorry for the rant...but one of the things that really p*sses me off is rich a-holes buying up prime waterfront property and then cutting off access illegally...most have so much money they just fight it out for years with huge legal fees and in a lot of cases the cases get dropped for lack of money (on the town/city side).

They should take those mansions by emminet domain and burn them down and give the beaches back to the people...
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 02:38 PM
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8. They'll be replaced primarily by Rove, not Arnold
as if Arnold wouldn't be bad enough.

Eloriel
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:28 PM
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14. I've been warning about this all along!
Dems need to get behind Davis ARGUE AGAINST the recall and Bustamante needs to quit undermining him if we are to survive this. We have the competitive ede.

Greens need to ask themselves is they really want another DEVELOPER on the coastal commission or Pete Wilson assigned to Industrial Relations.

Davis HAS to survive this even if you HATE him.
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Robin Hood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:53 PM
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15. What about PERS?
Public Employee Retirement system. Do you think that they are going to leave that alone? I don't. There is a lot of money to be pilfered from PERS.

I just had my mother in law over for the weekend. She said that she is tired of looking at Cruz Bustamante. She is very prejudice against fat people and Cruz is a little round.

But, What the moron does not get is that their PERS retirement plan will most likely be on the chopping block if the republicans get in. This weekend she proved to me that more than likely a majority of Americans pick their politicians on looks rather than substance.

It's really sad, but at 72 she is willing to vote on looks and not the fact that their generous retirement which keeps them in their life style will probably be cut in half or at best severely compromised.

People are just stupid, and i stand firmly behind that statement as the electorate has yet to prove me wrong.

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