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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 08:26 PM
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Alabama Judge Defiant Hours Before Deadline (The Countdown Continues...)
Edited on Wed Aug-20-03 08:27 PM by khephra
Alabama Judge Defiant Hours Before Deadline
Wed August 20, 2003 09:05 PM ET
By Verna Gates

MONTGOMERY, Ala. (Reuters) - An Alabama judge vowed on Wednesday to keep a monument inscribed with the Ten Commandments on display in a state judicial building after losing a last-minute appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court of an order for its removal.

"The U.S. Supreme Court's denial of a stay today will not deter me from continuing to fight for the right of our state to acknowledge God as the moral foundation of our law," state Supreme Court Justice Roy Moore said in a statement read by his spokesman hours before the midnight Wednesday deadline.

Moore's statement, read to reporters outside after the court building closed, said he would ask the U.S. high court "for an appeal on the merits" in the case. "I expect that the court will vindicate the rule of law regarding the acknowledgment of God in our state," it added.

Tom Parker, Moore's spokesman, said Alabama's top judge had "no intention" of removing the monument and that it would be guarded by security personnel on Thursday.

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http://reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=3311856
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 08:28 PM
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1. Impeach the self-righteous SOB!
I think that defying a court order is good enough reason to kick his out......
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 08:29 PM
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2. I don't get what he's saying?
Is he asking to take his case before the Supreme Court AGAIN? That can't be done, can it?
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 09:28 PM
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7. The SC denied a "stay" in the removal...
....meaning the denied putting it off. Meaning the removal is still on for tonight. HOWEVER, he can still appeal, like the article said, "on the 'merits' LOL of the case" just to be able to keep the thing there till the end of time. If they won't stay it, though, they sure as hell won't overturn it. It's like asking for five cents, and after getting denied asking for a dollar.
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Atlant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 07:41 AM
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19. The denial of the stay doesn't necessarily signal...
> If they won't stay it, though, they sure as hell won't overturn
> it. It's like asking for five cents, and after getting denied
> asking for a dollar.

The denial of the stay doesn't necessarily signal that they'd
rule against Moore, although it is a pretty strong signal given
that it would have been Kennedy that denied the stay.

(You may already know this...)

You see, when it comes to "emergency stays" (of executions, rock
removals, and such like), the Supreme Court doesn't act as a
whole. Instead, each individual Justice is repsonsible for handling
stay requests emanating from one section of the country. So, for
example, if a liberal Justice had denied the stay, you might still
find the rest of the Court going 5-4 in Moore's favor on the actual
appeal. But given that it was Kennedy denying the stay, I'd say
that's a pretty rock-solid indication that the court will
eventually deny Moore by at least 6-3. But you really can't
take it for granite.

Atlant


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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 08:31 PM
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3. Call in the state troopers
move that thing tonight or you are going to
have a bigger mess on your hands...
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 08:32 PM
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4. Moore's gone off his meds
To flaunt SCOTUS should be an ethics violation, at LEAST. This wacko, ith no respect for the law, should not be hearing cases.
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 08:44 PM
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5. I've got a couple of questions.
1. As a Judge, didn't Moore have to take an oath (presumably on his Bible) to uphold and serve the laws of his state and the United States Constitution?

2. By defying the Superior Court and losing his bid before the Supreme Court, hasn't Moore broken his oath?

3. Isn't there an automatic penalty for this blatant transgression, such as being removed from the bench and/or disbarrment? (If not, there should be!)
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 09:30 PM
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8. Yeah, this guy really ought to be disbarred.
Not just for ignoring the Constitution, but for ignoring the Supreme Court of the United States.
F*CK this guy. You DO what the SC tells you to do, dammit.
They can even make you accept a freakin' chimp as your president. Take the damned monument down! NOW!
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 09:32 PM
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9. I don't understand this either
this nutcase needs to be removed along with his precious statue.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 03:51 AM
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16. and personally billed for removal, security, cleaning and federal fines
while asked to point out those references to god in the Constitution.
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dfong63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 08:49 PM
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6. what a pity
that more judges are not as zealous in protection of our (the people's) constitutional liberties, as this one is in protecting his right to display the 10 commandments.
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ProudGerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 09:34 PM
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10. What right?
He has no right to display it where he is displaying it. It's a public building, not his private property.
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dfong63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 12:01 AM
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15. sorry, implicit sarcasm
i agree he doesn't have any right to do it.

but even if there was such a right, i just think it's ludicrous that he and others would go to the mat over something like this, when there are real and growing violations of the bill of rights going on all the time.

it's ludicrous and outrageous.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 09:36 PM
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11. What's he doin....runnin for deacon or somthin?
fricking blowhard out to be impeached.

Take yer damn monument and put it in your church
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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 10:02 PM
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12. I'm in full support of civil disobedience...
If Judge Moore and his gang want to protest the Supremes' denial and exercise a peaceful sit-in around his precious monument, I have no problem with that. HOWEVER, prior to doing so, he should resign his seat on the bench. Otherwise, he fairly mocks our judicial process and introduces a reasonable question - which master does he serve? The people of Alabama (ALL of them, including the atheists) or an imaginary cloud being?

My guess is Judge Roy (Off His) Bean will milk this for all the publicity he and his God-fearin' ilk can garner. They will find out, quite abruptly, that they are on the wrong side of the law...and history
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 10:32 PM
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13. Lucky for the superstitious bastard that he isn't an Iraqi
Or he'd already have learned the meaning of American justice.

As it is, he has to be stripped of his robes and allowed to commence a lucrative private sector career as Scapegoat-in-Residence at the American Enterprise Institute. He and Bork can swap stories.
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Yentatelaventa Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 10:48 PM
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14. Arrest the SOB!!!
Does he think he has a right to protest??? What's he think this is America?
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 04:09 AM
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17. Freedom of MY religion.
You keep yours in the closet with those black people.
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mumon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 07:30 AM
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18. I heard that clown Moore on Aaron Brown
he couldn't quote the constitution straight- he implied that somehow reference to a god was "literally" in the "text," and dumbass Brown never called him on it!

AND of course, they didn't even MENTION the "joint venture" with Coral Ridge Ministries angle!
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 07:49 AM
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21. I sw that too
This guy said something about God being part of his oath. It's his duty as a judge to make sure God is honored, or something like that.

Whaaaaaa?

I couldn't believe what he was saying.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 07:43 AM
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20. probably considers himself
Quite the martyr. I am sure the Fundies are in a rapturous frenzy over this.

Julie
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