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olmy Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 12:08 AM
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Gasoline pipeline from Los Angeles to Phoenix down
The Tucson gas line is still down, and the Western pipeline from LA is now down due to a truck accident. Napalitano is getting a task force together to investigate.
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smallprint Donating Member (778 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 12:20 AM
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1. do you have a link?
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olmy Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 12:21 AM
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2. No, it was just reported on Phoenix 10pm news...sorry.
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smallprint Donating Member (778 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 12:27 AM
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4. that's ok-- i'm sure it will turn up soon
Edited on Thu Aug-21-03 01:15 AM by smallprint
i'm in chicago, so i'm not affected, but i've been following this story and it seems like this 2nd pipeline problem would be a HUGE development-- isn't the gas situation already at the breaking point?

what a mess

on edit:
found a link : http://phoenix.bizjournals.com/phoenix/stories/2003/08/18/daily46.html
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 12:23 AM
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3. crap
My mother only has enough gas to get to work for the rest of this week.
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Julien Sorel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 12:32 AM
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5. Some people I work with said there was a gas station
charging $20 a gallon; I wasn't able to confirm this. On the way home from work, every gas station that actually had gas was filled with cars with lines waiting for half a mile. The average price I saw was $2.19 a gallon, but one of my employees said he payed $3 a gallon, and felt lucky to get it, as he was on empty.
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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 12:36 AM
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6. AP photo -- $3.47/$3.97 per gallon
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/030820/168/512n4.html

... Closure of the pipeline that provides a third of the metropolitan area's gas has sparked days of shortages and long lines at the gas stations that have been able to remain open. (AP Photo/Matt York)
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 12:43 AM
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7. Prices should not be allowed to be that high
If need be the state should shut down those stations and then reopen then under state supervision.

Capitalism and emergencies do not mix.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 02:05 AM
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11. yet consider
that they will have no revenue once they sell out, so maybe they need to get doube the price now to cover any down time from running dry.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 12:46 AM
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8. Who do they blame?
Does Bush get the heat on this?
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 01:15 AM
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9. Nope, silly? How could you even ask such a rude question!
Edited on Thu Aug-21-03 01:17 AM by TankLV
After all, he's just starting the proceedure to get $$ for his major contributors so those $$ can get back to him!

Worked in 2000 & 2002. It's a successful "stratergy".

BTW - anyone seen Kenny Boy, et all, lately?

Whatacountry!

PS:

I was told that the gas pipeline was bringing in gas to Phoenix from the East, not the West. Anyone know for certain?
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olmy Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 01:29 AM
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10. There are 2 lines...The down Tucson line, and now the LA line ..
has been damaged in a truck accident. The newsreaders said that repair is going on now to the LA line to Phoenix.
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 02:13 AM
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12. Too many.
Thursday - Northeast
Monday - Georgia (former S.S.R.) The entire country went black.
Tuesday - Tuscson
Wednesday - L.A.

Too many events like this.
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jamesinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 02:31 AM
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13. Is this deregulation at its finest
A premium is put on profit, not on maintenace of existing equipment. Have safeguards been abandoned under the Bush administration for the sake of money? I am to lazy to search out this thing, but the thought does come to mind when I see all this. I also see the word cheap labor republican on everything. In some twisted way I see it as this: If you can't layoff the entire work force, run the price up so high that it gives the same profit margin of not having to pay an employee.
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 02:33 AM
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14. I'm wondering if there's something more to it.
I agree about deregulation and lack of maintenance, but I still wonder. Too many.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 02:44 AM
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15. obviously the work of those pesky "saddam loyalists"
nt
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 03:00 AM
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16. I finally got some gas...$2.99 per gallon...
here are some articles that I found...Something just doesn't sound right about this whole thing...
But according to one person it's the Gov Napolitano's Fault...check it out...this is a typical freeper on this site who thinks he knows everything...!

Pipeline Janet

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/0820gas-main20.html

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/0820crisis20.html
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