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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 09:46 AM
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Global poll shows a Kerry landslide
Poll finds him preferred around world

PARIS If the world could cast a vote in the United States presidential election, John Kerry would beat George W. Bush by a landslide, according to a poll released on Wednesday that is described as the largest sample of global opinion on the race.

"It is absolutely clear that John Kerry would win handily if the people of the world could vote," said Steve Kull, director of The Program on International Policy Attitudes of the University of Maryland, a co-sponsor of the survey. "It is rather striking that just one in five people surveyed around the world support the re-election of President Bush."
...
The most negative attitude toward the U.S. came from France, Germany and Mexico, where roughly 80 percent of those surveyed thought that the foreign policies of President Bush had made them feel worse about the United States.

http://www.iht.com/articles/537873.html
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lil-petunia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 09:49 AM
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1. I don't get Latin America. Doesn't he speak Latin?
The good news is most people in the US are open minded, thinking, literate people who care about this country and its foreign affairs. the few remaining are Bush supporters.
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 09:53 AM
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8. Maybe they dislike liars.

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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 09:54 AM
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9. Actually, he claims to speak Mexican. n/t
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short bus driver Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 08:09 PM
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25. Mexican?
Nyaah, he can hardly speak American.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 10:14 AM
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13. I think he picked up some pig
latin somewhere. However when he tries to use it the people don't know what the hell he is talking about. He apparently doesn't understand that even though its called "Latin America" they speak Spanish, not Latin. :crazy:
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 09:50 AM
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2. France & Germany is no surprise, but Mexico?
I though Shrub & Fox were such good buddies! Shrub wants to give all those illegals smnesty status! Duess they can see through him too, all the way to the truth!!!
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 09:51 AM
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5. Vincente Fox and Mexico ended up on the chimpsters shit list when they
refused to be part of the coalition of the bribed.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 04:23 PM
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20. What nations' leaders want...
Edited on Wed Sep-08-04 04:27 PM by LynnTheDem
and what their own citizens want, are often 2 very different things. And so many people don't stop and think of this.

Like the way rightwingnuts think the world supported the invasion of Iraq, when actually only a handful of nation's leaders did, and that only a few "fringe hippies" opposed the invasion when actually the vast majority of the world was (and still is) opposed.

In fact NONE of the "coalition" nations had populations that were prowar; the average was 90% antiwar. And that includes the UK. Tony the bLiar was prowar; his own British citizens were NOT.

bushWorld:

The bLiar spread democracy by ignoring the majority of his own citizens and joining the invasion...the majority of the British citizens opposed the invasion...so in bushWorld the rightwingnuts praise the UK.

In France, Chirac trashed democracy by following the will of the overwhelming majority of the French citizens and opposing the invasion...the vast majority of the French citizens opposed the invasion...so in bushWorld, the rightwingnuts trash France.

Amazing.

In Canada and Mexico and Russia and Germany and all the other 160 out of the 191 nations of the world who said no to the invasion of Iraq, the situation matches France; both the Canadian & Mexican people and the Canadian & Mexican governments opposed the invasion and did not join the invasion or occupation.

Most rightwingnuts don't bother trashing Canada & Mexico or any of the other 160 out of 191 nations though, because most don't even know that Canada & Mexico & the other 160 out of 191 nations opposed bush's war & said no.

bushCartel sure find it easy to con & dupe them rightwingnut rubes, though.


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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 09:51 AM
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3. Well Maybe US citizens can wonder Why the World wants
Kerry
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 10:28 AM
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14. Naw, not likely they will wonder anything
They live in a bubble and still have not connected
the dots that their corporate government has destroyed
entire countries and cultures in the pursuit of
"American interests." Sadly, they don't care either.
As long as they can continue to consume the majority
of the world's resources they really are not interested
in what the rest of the world thinks. What has not dawned
on them is that their culture and country is in the process
of being destroyed too and that multinationals don't care about
them either...The citizens of this country are about to find out
how the rest of the world has lived for a long time.
Somehow, I doubt they are prepared to survive what's coming.
BHN
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 09:51 AM
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4. KERRY IN A LANDSLIDE
*believe*
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 09:51 AM
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6. 52% of Britons want Kerry, and that's the most devestating one of all
Edited on Wed Sep-08-04 10:43 AM by NewYorkerfromMass
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 04:32 PM
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21. In amount of UK troops forced to Iraq
they were our only "real" ally...but the majority of British citizens opposed the invasion & occupation of Iraq. The majority of Brits still do.

So even the UK wasn't really our real ally.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 09:52 AM
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7. Freepers will boycott Taco Bell.
Tyler Durden said it last time I believe and it happened. Let's see if it happens again.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 10:12 AM
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12. Actually, Taco Bell is part of Yum Brands
Edited on Wed Sep-08-04 10:12 AM by ribofunk
which is based in Louisville, Kentucky.

Not that that would change anything about a freeper boycott.
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itcfish1 Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 10:30 AM
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15. LOL Freepers
demanded Americans boycott Taco Bell when Spain pulled out of Iraq. They are so dumb they are dangerous.
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 10:57 AM
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17. Greece protested Colon Powell
Maybe they should boycott "Grecian Formula" too.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 09:59 AM
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10. According to the Book of Revelation
Bush can't even get the full one third of the damned to side with him.

Even flunking as an Anti-Christ- or conversely as Bush supporter would interpret the data, somehow the one third blessed who support him are MIA
in record numbers.

IF the American people were allowed the same opportunities for free information and thought and voice the result would be exactly the same here give or take a few percent, more so since the people most shamed and affected by Bush crimes are the American people.

The media bears a great weight of the blame for the propaganda curtain that separates us from the rest of mankind.

Humankind- NOT some sort of Global "them". The human race. Homo sapiens. The majority of all humans to a number that is vastly greater than any other generation and better informed and educated and dedicated to peace and justice than any other.

Mankind wants to flush the turds and get back to surviving its future.

But Time Warner, Murdoch, Disney, etc want to blow that off. Who- or what- in hell are THEY?
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 11:01 AM
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18. a new breed - homo sapiens moransis
or maybe they're a very old breed, only newly discovered.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 04:39 PM
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22. Absolutely!
IF America had had the same info the rest of the world had, the population of the USA would have been 70-80% opposed to the invasion of Iraq. No question about it.

As it was, the US majority WAS OPPOSED (52%) right up until the bombs were dropping on Baghdad. IMAGINE if the US media had been 50-50, instead of the 80% prowar and 20% antiwar bias that they were!

NO WAY would bush have got his invasion and NO WAY would the media have made fortunes out of bush's invasion and NO WAY would Halliburton have made their $200 billion in profit (so far) out of bush's invasion...and NO WAY would tensof thousands of people be dead now. :(
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 10:10 AM
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11. too bad the world won't be voting in our election
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 10:32 AM
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16. They SHOULD be allowed to vote!
Seeing how their lives are affected daily by
our government and foreign policies.
Basically, everyone on the planet is affected
by our government, so hey, send out the ballots!
BHN
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no safe haven Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 06:58 PM
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24. Yes!! I wholeheartedly agree BHN.
The self-professed leader of the so-called “free” world should be held accountable worldwide for the global ferment he and his administration has unleashed. That’s why it is so important to the rest of the world that Dems do everything they can to get voters out to the polls and sweep the Demon and his minions out of office. I cannot tell you how heartening it is to see DUers doing just that :loveya: There’s more at stake in this election than how it affects the US.
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lumberingbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 11:21 AM
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19. I'm surrounded by people who...
are ignorant, have never had an original thought, never know what is going on politically. Of course these are the ones voting for *bush. I am really beginning to think 'merica is the only country where the majority of the electorate is stupid!!! ;(
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 04:51 PM
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23. This is always good news....
....and sure could use some good news today after the CNN poll-a-thon taking heads pro-Bushie blatherfests :)
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DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 09:19 PM
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27. Actually this isn't good news.
Hate to rain on your parade but this is awful news. I travel a great deal in Europe and currently most of the world is absolutely stunned that this is a close race. The world in the last four years has not been increasingly anti-American but anit-Bush. They've not been anti-American because they have believed (probably rightly) that we didn't actually ELECT this idiot. If we do elect him THEN we will begin to understand what anti-Americanism is. They've accepted us because of a belief that we are a sane people sadled with an insane leader. If we join our insane leader, instead of throwing him out, we must prepare for possibly some of the roughest times this country has ever known.
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ILeft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 10:53 AM
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28. I agree. What kind of support will we have after four more years?
I'm guessing the rest of the world will be saying to Americans: "F**k you and the Chimp you rode in on!"

They might like us now, but if our national stupidity becomes a clear threat to their present and future survival... well what would you do???
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Tommy_Douglas Donating Member (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 11:07 AM
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30. I have to agree...
I don't really know anybody who likes Bush, and a lot of the dislike for America is reserved for the administration as most people here know he wasn't elected.

However if Bush wins this election then everything changes... Americans in general will be hated in a lot of countries and openly at that.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 08:39 PM
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26. The most important part of the article...
"Those at the top of world society are more negative towards Bush than those at the bottom," Kull said. "The most likely common link is that those who have the most access to information tend be more negative towards Bush than those with less access to information." Overall, only 20 percent of those surveyed supported Bush for a second term, while just under half support Kerry and one third did not express a preference.

Sounds a lot like the situation here in the US!

(And where is Saudi Arabia in all this? They're the ones giving Bush his marching orders, so one might tend to believe they are pro-Bush)
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 11:03 AM
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29. So, the world would have voted Hitler out, too.
What does that have to do with anything.

In Nazi Germany and Imperial Amerika, citizenry from within the nation and without have NO say in who will be Fuhrer in Germany nor Emperor in Amerika.
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SiouxJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 11:37 AM
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31. It amazes me how the whole world knows an idiot when they
see one but people here just can't see it. Why are people in this country so freakin' blind? I just can't imagine why anyone would vote for Shrub. When I see someone with a "W" bumper sticker on their car, all I can think is, what a blind fool! OPEN YOUR F*CKING EYES! My gawd! The man is an absolute idiot who I wouldn't trust to make a burrito at Taco Bell and they want him in charge of our country! He ran all his businesses into the ground, just as he's running our country and now Iraq into the ground. He's always needed someone to bail him out and now WE'RE the ones who are gonna have to do it. We'll be cleaning up his presidency for decades to come. The whole world can see this but people here can't.
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