New GI death in Iraq sets grim mark

[WillyT]

Fatality tops number of those killed during combat phase

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The toll of U.S. troops killed in postwar Iraq surpassed the number killed in major combat on Tuesday, reaching 139 with the death of a soldier in a roadside bombing.

TWO OTHER SOLDIERS were wounded when the bomb hit a support convoy in the town of Hamariyah, 16 miles northwest of Baghdad, the military announced.

The incident brought the death toll since May 1, when President Bush declared an end to major combat, to one more than the number of soldiers who died during heavy fighting before that date. Since the war began March 20, 277 U.S. forces have died. Since May 1, 66 soldiers have died in combat.

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Link: http://www.msnbc.com/news/870749.asp?0cv=CB10

And the beat goes on...

[sonias]

1. just how long

will the military and the families of these soldiers put up with this? Foreign policy by petulance, like Dean calls it. Whistle ass won't admit he's made a mistake and turn it over to the U.N. because he'd rather have more of these soldiers die than admit he was wrong. Where is the outrage? He lied about the WMD, he lied about securing Iraq, he lies about everything and he needs to held accountable.

Sonia

[neuvocat]

2. He won't turn it over because of the oil.

That's why the U.S. went over there in the first place. Same reason for tampering with Afghanistan.

[Eradicate_Tyranny]

4. Forget something?

neuvocat writes:

"because of the oil ... Same reason for tampering with Afghanistan."


So there was no event that occurred prior to "tampering with
Afghanistan"?

This may refresh the memory:

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/memorial/lists/by-age

[Sick of Bullshit]

7. You need to change your mode of transportation

from the turnip truck to the clue bus.

The plans to attack Afghanistan were made long before 9-11. The Taliban wouldn't allow a pipeline to be built by Unocal, and they ended up giving the contract to an Argentine firm. Lo and behold, there are terrorist attacks and the finger is pointed immediately at Afghanistan, even though there were no Afghan citizens involved, and we bombed the hell out of the country to get one guy, who apparently escaped.

But, no matter. The guy we installed as leader of Afghanistan (who is so popular that he has to have US troops to protect him, because he can't trust his own people), signed a new pipeline with the US soon after his installation.

[RamboLiberal]

8. Sick of Bullshit - you're right on about that Afghanistan Pipeline

Even a just published WorldNetDaily book - Crude Politics by Paul E. Sperry - lays out this case. Details Karzai's connections to Unocal. I never thought I'd recommend a WND book - but I highly recommend this one. If DU'ers can't stomach giving WND your hard-earned $$$, then buy the beverage of your liking and sit down in a bookstore and read. It also details the Pakistani and Saudi treachery and the author makes whistle-ass look like the scheming doofus he is.

In Crude Politics, Paul Sperry presents alarming evidence that the Bush administration diplomats resumed talks with Pakistani officials over gas and oil pipelines in Afghanistan while the United States was still reeling from the horror of September 11, 2001.
Paul Sperry contends that, true to America’s energy-based foreign policy of the last half-century, the Bush administration seized the opportunity to use the attacks as reason to oust the Taliban—the major obstacle blocking plans for the precious pipelines linking Caspian reserves to hot Asian markets. With journalistic integrity and painstaking research, Sperry will enlighten readers on:

How commercial gain within the current oil-friendly administration has undermined our nation’s war on terror.

How our safety has been jeopardized because of an overriding effort to charge ahead with a new "Silk Road" through Afghanistan, making the capture of Osama bin Laden a secondary concern.

The nature of war and the politics behind the major decisions being made in the current administration, including those regarding Iraq and other "axis of evil" countries.

* Crude Politics also pulls back the veil on Bush's behind-scenes operator for regime change in both Afghanistan and Iraq -- former energy consultant Zal Khalilzad.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0785262717/qid=1061955080/sr=8-2/ref=sr_8_2/103-3553978-5361430?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

[saigon68]

13. DEAR ET NICE STRAW MAN ARGUMENT

The 19 SAUDI nutcases who flew the planes into the buildings had nothing to do with the DRAFT DODGING AWOL CHIMPANZEE and his OILY Friends, Cheney, Wolfie and RUMDUMB invading and destroying IRAQ!!!

Nice try but no cigar

[Eradicate_Tyranny]

3. UN?

Turn it over to the UN? Right now, Syria is President of the UN
Security Council, and Lybia heads the UN Human Rights Comission.

Let's face facts, if the Iraqi people are to have any chance at
freedom and democracy, the UN will have to stay out.

The last thing the UN dictatorships want, is a free Iraq.

Here is the current makeup of the UN Security Council:

COUNTRY       FREEDOM HOUSE RATING
--------------------------------------------------
Angola        Not Free
Bulgaria      Free
Cameroon      Not Free
Chile         Free
China*        Not Free
France*       Free
Germany*      Free
Guinea        Not Free
Mexico        Partly Free
Pakistan      Not Free
Russia*       Partly Free
Spain         Free
Syria         Not Free (President of UN Security Council)
UK*           Free
USA*          Free

* = Permanent UNSC Member

http://www.freedomhouse.org/

[WillyT]

5. Hey ET, Phone Home Please !!!

The head of Freedom House is non other than......... *drum roll here*

James Woolsey !!!

Link: http://www.freedomhouse.org/aboutfh/bod.htm

Click it, read it, and weep!

Buh, bye now. :hi:

[loathesomeshrub]

6. You need to adjust the status of the US to "not free"

Have you been watching what the rest of us see happening in this country? We have a government made up of a party who steamrolls over any and every freedom for the benefit of individuals, even to the point of lying about the reason for going to war with a country that has never threatened us. We have a party stealing elections, kicking out lawfully elected officials, redistricting areas unlawfully to increase the amount of representatives for their party, secret meetings with energy executives, irresponsible use of tax money, and the biggest easte oif the biggest surplus in history, leading to the biggest deficit in history. A government that has authorised detentions with no trials or even charges filed.
So don't leave the US out when you're pointing out countries with corrupt leaders and lack of freedoms. This country could lead the pack.

[Minstrel Boy]

9. gimme a break...

Let's face facts, if the Iraqi people are to have any chance at
freedom and democracy, the UN will have to stay out.

Your patronizing cant about what's best for the Iraqis doesn't wash with me. Nor, I expect, with this Iraqi:

"It’s a bad start to democracy, being occupied and having your government and potential leaders selected for you by the occupying powers… On the other hand, could we really expect more from a country whose president was ‘appointed’ by the Supreme Court?"

http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com/

[GiovanniC]

12. Germany* (* = Permanent UNSC Member)

I'm pretty sure that Germany wasn't one of the Allies in WW2... that's years of Wolfenstein talking. Weren't only the Allies (US, UK, France, China, Russia) made permanent members of the Security Council?

[NYC]

10. That's the topic on Nightline right now.

They showed Bush saying "major combat operations are over". That was just after they said more have died since.

[Bake]

11. I think it is VERY SIGNIFICANT

That every single network, even Faux, was reporting this today, over and over again. I hope America heard it. That turd in the People's House hasn't got a friggin' clue what's happening in the real world. He's too busy have a wet dream about his flight-suit and codpiece.

Bake