US debates military strikes on 'nuclear Iran'

[RamboLiberal]

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/eed88be8-0741-11d9-9672-00000e2511c8.html

The Bush administration's warnings that it will not "tolerate" a nuclear-armed Iran have opened up a lively policy debate in Washington over the merits of military strikes against the Islamic republic's nuclear programme.

Analysts close to the administration say military options are under consideration, but have not reached a level of seriousness that indicate the US is preparing actual action.

When asked, senior officials repeat that President George W. Bush is removing no option from the table - but that he believes the issue can be solved by diplomatic means.

Diplomacy on Wednesday appeared stalled.

[Catch22Dem]

1. Isn't that almost verbatum

what they said about Iraq...before attacking?

[Carla in Ca]

19. He says it can be solved by diplomatic means?

I guess he'll let Kerry handle it then.

[tlcandie]

2. Sigh ... heavy sigh ...

:cry: :crazy: :nuke:

EDIT: "What's the world comin' to," words from Fleetwood Mac song.

Lyrics:
What's the world coming to?
What's the world coming to?
Everyone's gone to the moon
What's the world coming to?

Every night, every day
In this house filled with shame
I can say I care
But there's no one there

There's no truth in my life
There's no light in my eyes
And it's all I guess
That I'll ever miss

What's the world coming to?
What's the world coming to?
Everyone's gone to the moon
What's the world coming to?

I can jump right off and fall right into the ocean
I can come right out and think just what I say
But if I don't call for a reservation
They'll just turn me down
Turn me inside out

I don't say what they want
I don't do what they say
So I'm on their list
So i'm gone, i guess

What's the world coming to?
What's the world coming to?
Everyone's gone to the moon
What's the world coming to?

What's the world coming to?
What's the world coming to?
Everyone's gone to the moon
What's the world coming to?

[UpInArms]

3. lively policy debates?

with whom?

Rumsfeld, Cheney, Wolfowitz and Feith?

Yeah, lively, my ass.

These criminals need to be under the freakin' jail.

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[tlcandie]

5. I think this is an alert post because I think this isn't allowed...

Sorry Neo.. nothing personal, but we can't have this type of stuff.

[NEOBuckeye]

18. Sorry tlcandie, I guess I'm getting ahead of myself.

I'm just thinking a few years later, if Bush gets re-installed, imposes a draft, and arouses the American people into the kind of democratic resistance that would finally muster enough strength to stand up to these people and remove them from power.

You're too late, my friend, if you think due process alone is going to resolve this scenario at this late hour. I don't like the idea either, but it's exactly why the founding fathers included the Second Amendment.

Addendum: I'll just add that I still plan to vote for John Kerry, because he may just be able to bring us one step back from the abyss. But as long as the fascist neo-conservatives in the GOP retain their power, you can bet the bank that they're already planning a back-up plan to sabotage his presidency every step of the way.

They will return with a vengeance in 2008. Count on it.

[Peachhead22]

6. A "lively policy debate" with Bush

Is like a battle of wits with an unarmed man. When the only tool you know how to use is a hammer eveything looks like a nail.

[anakie]

7. I really hope your mob wins this election

because if Bush wins and they do invade Iran you will become the worlds leading pariah nation.

[tlcandie]

8. I thought we already were?

:shrug: Well, IMO, at least I feel like we already are.

[REVOLT823]

9. That guy in the article from PNAC was really pushing

the war route. These guys are unbelievable, if this ass is reeelected, they are going to do it, I have no doubt in my mind.

[wsswss]

11. What is Kerry's position?

What is Kerry's position on Iran and its apparent quest for nuclear weapons?

[REVOLT823]

16. Definitely not the same position as PNACs, and you should know what his

position is, shouldn't you?

[wsswss]

20. Actually, no. I'm not clear about Kerry's Iran position.

"Definitely not the same position as PNACs, and you should know what his position is, shouldn't you?"

I suppose I should know Kerry's position on Iran. But it's often confusing to try to understand how Kerry feels about controversial issues. My guess is that he supports letting the Europeans discuss it for a few more years and then hope for the best when Iran admits to having a nuclear arsenal.

[Gregorian]

10. These guys need therapy.

Or maybe they just don't feel guilty enough yet. They are going to be stopped. They may kill half the planet before they're done, but they will be stopped. Hitler was stopped. The days of unbridled power are long over. Give yourselves up, guys.

[jumpstart33]

12. If Iran doesn't have nukes it is derilect in protecting its citizens

With India, Pakistan, and Israel all having nukes, it would be stupid for Iran to not have any or other WMDs. Every Arab nation should have WMDs to protect itsself against Israel, the only country in the region to attack its neighbors with bombs.

[nadinbrzezinski]

13. Anybody care to lay odds that this war starts

before January 20th, regardless of the result of the election?

[OneBlueSky]

14. lemme see if I have this straight . . .

it's okay for the U.S. to have nuclear weapons . . . even though we're the only country to have ever actually used them . . . but it's not okay for Iran to even contemplate nuclear weapons . . .

sounds to me like BushCo is just looking for an excuse to start another war . . . and to extend what they imagine to be some kind of growing U.S. hegemony in the region . . . lord, what fools these mortals be . . .

[ropi]

15. reminds me of a birthday card i saw a few months ago....

called white trash pinata....two kids (obviously inbred) with sticks trying to hit a hornet's nest....

well, let's see if old cracker and company will whack the hornet's nest....

[Dem2theMax]

17. Is the Space Shuttle ready yet?

I REALLY want to move to another planet. ET, come get me.

sigh....

[teryang]

21. Losing two wars? Start another!

They have been looking for an opportunity to attack Iran for some time now. It would be a grievous blunder. Iran is an Anglo-American oil company objective. The neo-cons like it as a target because it fits the neo-religious objective of removing all limits to Israeli expanisionism.