CNN Reporting - The pipeline to Turkey breached AGAIN!

[alcuno]

Breached? That's code for...it's on fire. So blowing up pipelines is called a breach in security? What are we paying those 5000 Iraqis for?

[newyorican]

1. This pipeline is now known as the "smoke-n-fire" line.

The one to Haifa will be known as "the stain".

On Edit: I can't think of anything that would make the neo-cons crazier than being denied oil profits.

[StandWatie]

2. you can't guard a pipeline

I know you are never going to convince W and crew but you just can't.

[Sagan]

15. amen, StandWatie..

I've been saying the same thing. That's why Chimpco lost interest in Afghanistan, I'm convinced.

[DuctapeFatwa]

3. It's actually more profitable right now to keep it burning

It only pumps a little bit, to Turkey, which of course doesn't pay much for it. Functional, it generates $7 million a day, of which US companies get very little.

Halliburton has the contract to put out fires. Even if they only bill $7 million a day, it will be $7 million a day more than they will get pumping it to Turkey.

[alcuno]

5. But...............the oil money is for reconstruction.

My president tells me so.

[arcane1]

6. that's $7 million "for the Iraqi people", right?

:eyes:


how long will Merkans be buying THAT line?

[swinney]

4. PIPELINE FROM IRAQ TO ISRAEL////WOW!

THIS WOULD ATTRACT A FEW TERRORISTS.

[schultzee]

17. They are already building such a pipeline, and it will be very

interesting to see how well it stays unbreached.

[Old and In the Way]

7. When will the PNAC crew get the memo?

The one that says, even though you morons think that a plan to divvy up Iraqi oil between your political benefactors would be acceptable to the Iraqi people, they really do have other thoughts about who really owns this natural resource.

Without oil profits, the whole PNAC plan goes down in flames...

[teknomanzer]

23. This is why there will be no democracy in Iraq...

The people of Iraq would elect someone who was was anti-Isreal and anti-American. The US needs to have a right wing puppet stooge in charge who will have no qualms about using a police state to murder and torture people to maintain power. Thats the only way we can be assured of keeping the oil spigot open and flowing into those SUV's.

[The Magistrate]

8. What Are We Paying Those 5,000 Iraqis For, Sir?

Several things.

First, to tell the people blowing up the pipelines when they can be sure no U.S. troops will be nearby.

Second, to sell the people blowing up the pipelines grenades and cartridges.

Third, to look the other way when people come to blow up the pipelines.

[htuttle]

9. And I have to say, they are doing an exemplary job of it

Top notch, A-1.

[0007]

10. Boo Hoo!

American oil going up in flames. I'm about to cry.

So basically the scam goes like this. The American tax payer is paying for the troops to protect the American based contractors
who are getting rich. Nothing like a free protection service for corporate American. (Mafia style) The soldiers get killed and we the people by the people for the people get screwed.

The mission statement: To bring a Democracy to Iraq and free the world of terrorist. (It has nothing to do with oil)

So in the name of Halliburton and the Carlyle boy this is what a human being dies for, 'eh?

[alcuno]

12. Yup. Just as how we predicted the scam would go.

I'm waiting for the next phase. A grateful government, who we installed, invites the US to build military bases and to privatize the oil.

[aquart]

13. Not gonna happen.

We may go bankrupt trying it but they can outwait us.

Unless we are willing to kill millions of people (and Bush is fine with it, but the rest of us ain't), we can't install anything in that country. Or anywhere in the MidEast. We took out the strongman ourselves instead of letting another strongman do it. In that neighborhood, that starts a religious war, not a political one.

And Bush has shown them every weakness we have. They're smart enough to exploit them.

We fight no battles, but our men get picked off one at a time like targets at a fair. That's not heroic. It's makes us look like anyone can take a crack at us and we can't do a thing. Weak.

Thanks, George.

[AnnabelLee]

14. I think they can outwait us

The Iraqis have discovered that, sometimes, Freedom's just another word for nothin' left to lose.

[Narraback]

11. This thread makes me think of Gen. Bulter -- "War is a Racket"

http://www.lexrex.com/enlightened/articles/warisaracket.htm

A snip:

WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives.

A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of the people. Only a small "inside" group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few, at the expense of the very many. Out of war a few people make huge fortunes.

[BrotherBuzz]

18. This brings to mind another General Butler

http://www.ehistory.com/world/PeopleView.Cfm?PID=16

General Benjamin F. Butler

(this jerk understood 'WAR is a racket' and fully intended to capitalize on it...)

<snip>
If that was controversial, his next field command was incendiary. He was pulled back to New England in late 1861, but in March 1862 he commanded the ground forces assigned to capture New Orleans. He could win no glory because the Navy captured it unaided, but he kept himself in the newspapers. He hanged a man who ripped down the U.S. flag; he was accused of stealing silver spoons. His most famous action was against women, one of the few battles he won. The women of New Orleans offered more resistance against the Union garrison than their men did against attack, insulting Federal troops by any means possible. Butler simply ordered that any woman who insulted or showed contempt for U.S. personnel be treated as a prostitute.

The South was outraged: their womanhood was insulted, and rewards were offered for his head. The North was delighted: the haughty Southerners had to eat their words. He continued to make money, mostly by kickbacks on smuggled cotton, until December 1862. By then he'd gone too far, and Lincoln removed him from command.
<more>

[schultzee]

16. I guess george w's plans just are not working.

He did not plan very well, did he?

[snippy]

19. Bush works out war strategy in backyard sandbox

http://www.recoilmag.com/news/bush_works_out_war_strategy_0902.html

[BeFree]

20. Just Wondering

Earlier this year Iraqi oil was making it onto the world market. Now that it's not, may explain why we now have an oil shortage.

[alcuno]

21. The Saudis are the "swing " producers

They could turn up the production if they wanted to. However, I thought some of our current problem had to do with the refineries that were knocked offline when the power went out.

[BeFree]

24. Yes of course..the Saudis

Didn't they recently come to DC just after the 9/11 report came out? Hmmmm... ya don't think they will be getting some kinda reward for supporting their good friend *, do ya? There's no doubt were getting scammed, it's just figuring out who's running the scam.

Still, the Iraqi oil was on the market until recently....now, it ain't. Turkey, et al, are having to get their fuel from somewhere else, causing a pinch down the line.

[JPace]

22. They can destroy it a lot faster

easier and cheaper than we can repair
it. It will only stop when it is
their pipeline and we are out of
the picture.

Please God.....send bush to Iraq
and bring our soldiers home. bush
wanted to go there, not our soldiers.