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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 08:15 AM
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Suicide of soldier recalled to Iraq
A 20-year-old Milford Haven soldier, who broke down as his father was driving him back to his unit for further service in Iraq, was later found hanged from the swings at a village play area.

http://www.thisispembrokeshire.net/pembrokeshire/news/NEWS10.html


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Peanut Gallery Donating Member (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 08:19 AM
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1. Condolences to this soldier's family.
Edited on Wed Sep-29-04 08:23 AM by Ravenswood
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nodehopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 08:20 AM
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2. oh god.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 08:22 AM
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3. RIP, Troop.
We will do our utmost to punish the war criminals responsible for this tragedy.
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 08:24 AM
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4. Another casualty of the war
Thank you, Bush you bastard!
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 08:24 AM
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5. very sad
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 08:30 AM
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6. Bush doesn't read the papers or watch the news
if he were remotely curious as to the effects of his war on our country, the world and our soldiers he would feel great remorse and maybe change his ways. <sigh> But, he doesn't.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 08:30 AM
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7. heartbreaking....
I can only imagine how his father feels right now... :(
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 11:34 AM
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22. When I was home on leave between tours in Vietnam my father
Edited on Wed Sep-29-04 11:35 AM by Bandit
who was a very conservative republican told me he would help me go to Canada if I wanted. He had always been so vocal about the Draft Dodging Cowards who went to Canada instead of going into the Military that I found his statement astounding. That was evidence to me even the staunchest conservatives could find truth and change their ways. I did not wish to go to Canada and give up my American citizenship so I returned to Nam. I gave my word I would fulfill my obligations. Bush* gave his word as well but he did not fulfill that pledge. I'm sure if my father were alive today he would not vote for that POS even being a staunch Republican.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 11:42 AM
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24. Bandit your post made me cry....
What a stunning example of a Father's love!

Welcome home and peace.... :)
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Tripmann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 08:31 AM
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8. 20 years old and facing FURTHER service in Iraq?
This whole war is a disgrace. Will we ever see Bush brought to justice?

Tripmann
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reprobate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 08:37 AM
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10. Justice? Not by either democrats or republicans.

Both are owned by the same corporations that own bush.

Justice will only come when the people realize that the system has been scammed and no longer works in their interest. The only real question is whether the revolution will be a quiet one or if it evolved into a shooting war. Hell, he created a civil war in iraq, why not at home.
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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 08:34 AM
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9. I'm crying about this, that poor kid
Edited on Wed Sep-29-04 08:34 AM by marshallplan
However we can all take comfort in the fact that Barbara (Queen Bitch) Bush isn't bothering her beautiful mind about anything like this. :grr:
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 11:16 AM
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20. "Obviously, in the realm of the Happy Consciousness,
guilt feeling has no place, and the calculus takes care of conscience. When the whole is at stake, there is no crime except in that of rejecting the whole, or not defending it. Crime, guilt, and guilt feeling become a private affair...Those who identify themselves with the whole, who are installed as the leaders and defenders of the whole can make mistakes, but they cannot do wrong - they are not guilty."

Herbert Marcuse


More true today than when it was written 40 years ago!
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 09:33 AM
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11. It will be a new day in America when veterans who return
and are discharged can speak out publicly against this horrendous atrocity in IraqNam.

They will have credibility that even the whores in the media won't be able to question.

It's what helped end Vietnam.

Rest in peace. His father must feel completely helpless and abandoned.
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EndElectoral Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 09:43 AM
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12. Bush appreciates his "sacrifice" especially since he doesn't make any
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yelladawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 09:46 AM
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13. Very Sad
American's going through this for what?
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dqueue Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 10:18 AM
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14. agh...
Very sorry and sad to hear that. More blood on bushco's hands.
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 10:22 AM
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17. very sorry
*ush/cheney acts like they are these tough guys and mock real veterans as being too sensitive. They deserve this fate not some 21 year old kid.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 10:19 AM
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15. Oh, dear God
Condolences to his family. I can't begin to imagine what they're going through. :cry:
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 10:21 AM
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16. 20 y.o. is still childhood
in many ways, for some. :(
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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 10:44 AM
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18. He was British...
...so it looks like the Tommies are getting the same royal shafting as the grunts, even as pressure builds on Tony the Poodle to withdraw the remaining British troops.

:cry:
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 10:46 AM
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19. Disgusting, simply disgusting!
This poor guy was clearly suicidal, taking tablets and cutting his own wrists, yet, they send a person like that back to Iraq.
:nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke:
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 11:24 AM
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21. i don't believe he would do this over one man bullying him
as his father seems to think. if he is willing to kill himself and go to such lengths to avoid serving the problem is much deeper than that.
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 11:38 AM
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23. "Previously attempted" but "seemed happy"??
"He had previously attempted to cut his wrists and had also taken an overdose of tablets, but he had seemed happy at the start of the car journey back to camp."

I can't comprehend that he was expected to go back, after 2 attempts. :-(
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 12:15 PM
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26. Seemed happy after attempting suicide several times?
Sounds like this poor guy was manic depressive. How the hell did they send someone like this back to Iraq? :mad:
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Wind Dancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 12:14 PM
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25. I hate this war!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:cry:

We have created a nightmare that has no end in sight. These boys and girls will be affected for the rest of their lives when they return home.
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