U.S. reporter (NYTs) charged with terror tip-off (Grover Norquist connect)

[UpInArms]

http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040929-092447-8153r.htm

New York, NY, Sep. 29 (UPI) -- The U.S. Justice Department has alleged a New York Times foreign affairs reporter tipped off an Islamic charity that the FBI was about to raid its office.

The accusation was disclosed Tuesday in Manhattan federal court, where the Times was seeking to block subpoenas from the Justice Department for phone records of two of its Middle Eastern reporters, Philip Shenon and Judith Miller, as part of a probe to track down the leak, the New York Post reported.

U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald of Chicago charged in court papers that Shenon blew the cover on the Dec. 14, 2001, raid of the Global Relief Foundation, which was suspected of funding Islamic terror operations.

"It has been conclusively established that Global Relief Foundation learned of the search from reporter Philip Shenon of The New York Times," Fitzgerald said in an Aug. 7, 2002, letter to the Times' legal department.

...more...

[ewagner]

1. WOW!!!!!

Does this mean what I think it means??/

Big, big, big stuff here.............

[Lerkfish]

4. depends...what do you think it means?

[ewagner]

11. I think

it means that Fitzgerald has stumbled acroos the whole nasty nework.

as far as being under Askkkroft's control, I think a lot of DUers thought Fitzgerald was/is pretty straight and independent

[Eye and Monkey]

2. Bullshit - as "conclusively established" as say...WMDs in Iraq?

If the tip-off were so "conclusively established", why haven't charges been filed?

Can't have it both ways Fitz - either it is "conclusively established" and you failed to protect Amurhikkka from the evil-doers, or your charge is bullshit.

And Fitz - BTW, how did Shenon allegedly find out about the raid to begin with - did y'all plant the tip intentionally? gotta a tipster in your ranks?

[UpInArms]

3. have you forgotten that Fitz has AsKKKrap for a boss?

n/t

[Eye and Monkey]

8. Please. What led you to that assumption?

[UpInArms]

14. please clarify your question

what am I assuming?

[Eye and Monkey]

17. "have you forgotten that Fitz has AsKKKrap for a boss?"

Again - is there something about my post that leads you to assume that I might have forgotten such a thing?

[UpInArms]

23. wasn't trying to jab any sticks

and didn't realize my response sounded obscure - am not certain what you added to your post on edit -

my post have you forgotten that Fitz has AsKKKrap for a boss?

was in response to this sentence:

If the tip-off were so "conclusively established", why haven't charges been filed?

I did assume something here - and that is that although AssKKKrap recused himself, he still is the Attorny General which heads the Justice Department and therefore, he still controls much of the agenda.

[Eye and Monkey]

27. that's an assumption I can get behind

cheers

[UpInArms]

28. cheers back at you Eye and Monkey

:cheers:

[faithnotgreed]

13. how could fitz "protect america" when he only came in later as

prosecutor? how does he have any connection to information being planted? from what i understand, he didnt come on the scene until after all this mess started...

wasnt ashcroft in charge initially? it was only later that he had to recuse himself (finally), and fitzgerald was then appointed sometime in 2003 was it?

did i misunderstand something in your post because i surely am confused by it?

[Eye and Monkey]

16. well let's see...

Prosecution has nothing to do with protection?

After-the-fact involvement gives one a free-pass?

I don't know who was in charge of the alleged investigation on the alleged tip-off to the charity. My understanding is that Fitz was supposed to be investigating/prosecuting the Plame thing.

I don't know what so hard to understand about the post - Fitz seems to be throwing in an unsubstantiated allegation to add weight to his position. It seems like he's saying "well, they've done other stuff, too." But this "other stuff, too" - IF it's real, if it is substantiated, why haven't they followed up with charges?

And if the tip-off charge is not substantiated, isn't that a bit of prosecutorial misconduct? Seems like it should be.

[CityDem]

5. WTF is Fitzgerald doing

I thought he was supposed to be investigating the Plame outing. He should be throwing Novak's ass in jail instead of looking into some Islamic charity. It looks like Asscroft has taken over and is controlling Fiztgerald like a puppet.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

20. Fitz is running more than one investigation...

...just because he's the Special Prosecutor in the Plame case, one from which Ashcroft has recused himself, doesn't mean that he doesn't have other cases to pursue. By the way, the fact that Ashcroft has recused himself from the Plame case means that Fitz is NOT reporting to Ashcroft on that case.

The Plame investigation is in the final stages, even Fitz's head investigator has been released to other dutues. The other investigations for which he is responsible are at different points along the path.

[Hamlette]

6. oh dear god, let it be that horrid Judith Miller!

and what is the Grover connection?

[UpInArms]

10. looks more like Shenon - and

here is where you can check out the Norquist connection

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Global+Relief+Foundation%22+grover+norquist&sourceid=opera&num=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

[gumby]

7. CBS yesterday,

New York Times tomorrow.

Only Party approved information will be allowed in the One Party State of Crusader Bunnypants.

[DeepModem Mom]

26. This is what I fear! Much as I disapprove of Miller, is NYT the next CBS?

[Ruby Romaine]

9. This is from the Moonie Times- do you have a real source?

n/t

[UpInArms]

12. here's a page

of news articles regarding this story -

http://news.google.com/?ned=us&hl=en&ncl=http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040929-092447-8153r.htm&scoring=d

I used the Moonie Times link because it gives some detail not available (either they made it up or since these are all their buddies, they may have more info)

[shraby]

15. Fitzgerald has been established here

as a credible prosecutor. Apparently the Plame investigation has widened because of info that came out in the grand jury proceedings. I'll see if I can find the skinny on what's going on, but be rest assured, Fitz is a good guy. Early on Ashcroft had to recuse himself from the Plame investigation.

Go to <http://www.antiwar.com> and click on Behind the Headlines on the right of the screen. Read Justin Raimondo's articles. Apparently Plame, and the Franklin investigations are connected by the neocons.

edited to add.

[madrchsod]

18. i suggest people do a little research

on this issue before jumping to conculsions.....it`s tied to fitz`z illinois investigation of the global relief foundation- who are they? well as hard as he tried he couldn`t get the real goods on them-could this be why? and if memory serves me right these guys were wealthy saudi`s..maybe these reporters worked for the cia or were "friends" with these saudi`s. i don`t give a shit what their jobs are if they are involved in a cover up of the saudi`s involvement they should be tried and convicted on any charge fitz comes up with

[madrchsod]

19. oh yes----

who threw the guys responsible for the first attack on the trade center in prison without the homeland security laws????? could it be fitz? wasn`t that under clinton`s watch?

[lovuian]

21. Shenon isn't a Government official??? How did he know the tip?

He is a reporter ....That he tipped of the charity perhaps the FBI should have acted quicker ...or maybe they were delayed by Aschcroft

:bounce:

Just in time for the main people to get out....

[ewagner]

24. That's why he

wants phone records and sources.......somebody INSIDE tipped the reporters off the same way somebody INSIDE outed Plame......I think they're related..

[Supersedeas]

25. some leaks are political dirty tricks...some are designed to help allies

looks like the press can be complicit with BOTH.

[johnfunk]

22. Philip Shenon and Grover Norquist: They hate us for our freedoms...

... if this proves true, Shenon should be plastered with federal felony charges. Frankly, so should Grover.

[krkaufman]

29. Sounds to me like Fitzgerald is losing focus.

Where is the Plame investigation? Why hasn't anyone been charged in that little bit of treason?


p.s. "Fitzgeral said in an Aug. 7, 2002, letter to the Times' legal department."

2002? I expect that's a typo.

[lovuian]

30. I think this is related to Plame

Fitzgerald is showing that there are traitors in the Government Whitehouse and Pentagon

Who are they working for???

[KoKo]

32. No...he's apparently been expanding his focus. Have you read any

of the Plame threads on DU.. They detail quite a bit.

[kodi]

31. so, this is what freaked out bill "misfire" at the times about fitzgerald?

that bloviating liar was attacking fitzgerald this week for his "fishing expedition" in the plame affair.

[Leilani]

33. Safire is part of the same crowd

as his pal, Judy Miller, who used bogus info to help us along into the war.

[creeksneakers2]

34. This could tie the White House and RWs to terrorism

I have to double check my facts, but I believe all this is true.

Norquist (a colonel in the vast right wing conspiracy) shared an office with Alamoudi. Together they visited the White House and took part in politcal meetings. I'm not sure if they met with Bush. There was a battle within the RW about Norquist supporting terrorists. Alamoudi has since been found guilty in a plot to assassinate Saudi leaders. Alamoudi took Libyan money for the job.

Global Relief Foundation was located at Norquist's office. This could very well link the vast right wing conspiracy to terrorism. The White House links could be very embarrassing to Bush. Bush sells himself as the great leader in the fight against terrorism. The fact is that the White House has held meetings with at least two accused terrorists.

[MasonJar]

35. I'm sorry, but this looks mighty suspicious to me. What a grand

way to avoid outing the Plame outer prior to the election!