"Why America Slept" bares Saudi-Pak-Osama triangle

[Keithpotkin]

Washington, September 1: Startling revelations about connections linking Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Osama bin Laden has been made by a commander of the Al Qaeda, Abu Zubaydah, claims a new book by Gerald Posner.

The book, Why America slept, reviewed in the current issue of Time, goes on sale on September 2. According to the review, the book is ‘‘a lean, lucid retelling of how CIA, FBI and US leaders missed a decade of clues and opportunities that might have forestalled the 9/11 terrorist attacks’’.

Posner details how US interrogators used drugs — an unnamed ‘‘quick-on, quick-off’’ painkiller and Sodium Pentothal to make Zubaydah talk. When the questioning stalled, CIA men flew Zubaydah to an Afghan complex fitted out as a fake Saudi jail chamber, where ‘‘two Arab-Americans, now with Special Forces,’’ pretending to be Saudi inquisitors, used drugs and threats to scare him into more confessions.
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much more...very conspiracy theory...interesting.

ends with : "Zubaydah claimed 9/11 changed nothing about the marriage of Saudi and Pakistani interests, as both Prince Ahmed and Mir knew an attack was scheduled in America on that day, but didn’t know where."

http://www.indianexpress.com/full_story.php?content_id=30721

[Keithpotkin]

1. Here is the Amazon link if any one is interested:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0375508791/qid=1062461928/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/002-3412810-8652009?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

Gerald Posner reveals much previously undisclosed information:

• the identity of two countries that might have had foreknowledge that a terrorist attack was scheduled for September 11 on U.S. soil
• a startling account of the interrogation of a leading al Qaeda captive
• facts about a series of deaths that point to an ongoing conspiracy by some governments to hide the extent of their earlier relationships with al Qaeda
• details about a secret deal between Saudi Arabia and Osama bin Laden
• how the U.S. government missed several chances to kill or capture bin Laden
• evidence that German intelligence may have protected an informant who was involved with many of the 9/11 plotters
• how the CIA tracked—and then lost—two of the hijackers when they entered the United States more than twenty months before the attacks
• the devastating consequences of the crippling rivalry between the CIA and FBI as the United States moved unwittingly toward 9/11

[ixion]

2. and of course we all know where the saudi trail leads

right to BushCo... :grr:

[Keithpotkin]

3. as does the pakistani trail

via the cia...etc.

[Nottingham]

4. And to think Osama got his wish! Troops out of Arabia

compliments from Bush and US got rid of Saddam another Ossama wish!

Is Bush part of the Taliban :bounce:

[varun]

5. Bush has made the worst blunder

by targetting Iraq instead of Saudi-Pak in the "War on Terrorism".

We are not any safer now than before 911

[Keithpotkin]

6. I would say we are alot less safe

since most of our armed forces are tied up in iraq we are far more vulnerable...should something large happen...like a revolution in suadi arabia or pakistan...something that would be much more relevent to the war on terror.

[Aidoneus]

7. geared for short attention spans?

two of the most closely-aligned US client states really it's top enemies in secret? A plot twist that would fit into a professional wrestling storyline, maybe, but I tend to be wary of confessions taken through torture.. :shrug:

[ozone_man]

8. I think there is alot more than this confession linking these three.

For example, the Pakistani ISI airlifting Al Queda out from Afghanistan into Pakistan as the U.S. troops had them surrounded. They were ordered to stand down. There is alot of stuff out there, that's for sure. Who knows how much is accurate? Maybe Michael Moore will come up with something good on Bush and 911.

[Aidoneus]

10. it's not

..that I doubt that Usamah's crew has ties to these states (hell, many of the groups that make up the WIF are ISI babies, which is in itself a proxy for promoting US interests in the region), I guess it's the deliberately misleading "we slept" myth that I refer to.
(on edit: after writing this I find the currently-last post in the other thread on this topic makes the point out better than I do)

[TolstoyAndy]

9. It's that the gov is our enemy

If the client states are our enemies, and our government has spent all this time, money and energy propping them up, then our government is is behind 9-11, plain and simple.

If anyone (in power) really cared, enough has come out in the mainstream press to bring the principals to a fair and open public trial (or at least a grand jury). But that's the last thing they want, ergo, the Kissinger Commission.

Good point on the torture - I don't need any torture-extracted confessions to know that Pakistan and Saudi were behind 9-11.
(Lt.?) Gen. Mahmoud Ahmad, head of the Pakistani ISI (secret police, CIA puppets) wired $100,000 to Mohammed Atta, and was meeting with Congressional Intel Comittee members that morning. And weren't the "good" bin-Ladens meeting with Poppy and the rest of the Carlyle Group directors that AM, too?

[Keithpotkin]

11. yes they were

"And weren't the "good" bin-Ladens meeting with Poppy and the rest of the Carlyle Group directors that AM, too?"

here is the link: http://www.redherring.com/vc/2002/0111/947.html

"Like everyone else in the United States, the group stood transfixed as the events of September 11 unfolded. Present were former secretary of defense Frank Carlucci, former secretary of state James Baker III, and representatives of the bin Laden family. This was not some underground presidential bunker or Central Intelligence Agency interrogation room. It was the Ritz-Carlton in Washington, D.C., the plush setting for the annual investor conference of one of the most powerful, well-connected, and secretive companies in the world: the Carlyle Group."

[VolcanoJen]

12. Dupe... locking

Although the sources are different, this post essentially describes the same story previously posted on LBN, which can be found here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=91976

Keithpotkin, your link to the IndianExpress version of events would be very helpful within that thread, and I hope you'll repost it there.

Thanks!
VolcanoJen
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