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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 03:12 AM
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Countries balk at aiding Iraq
The Bush administration’s effort to secure significant pledges of money to help rebuild Iraq is meeting stiff resistance from many foreign governments because of continued concerns over security and the predominant role played by the United States, according to diplomats and aid officials.

 THE CONCERNS, which were fueled by the Aug. 19 bombing of the U.N. headquarters in Baghdad and continuing doubts about the politics of the U.S. occupation, have dramatically lowered expectations for a donors conference scheduled for October. Some U.N. officials are asking whether the meeting in Madrid should be postponed until the United Nations can reinforce its team in Iraq and reach a more solid understanding with the Bush administration over the world body’s role in the battered country.
       The implications for U.S. taxpayers could prove significant. With postwar Iraqi revenue running lower than the administration anticipated and expenses running much higher, the administration is seeking significant help from outside. L. Paul Bremer, the coordinator of the U.S.-led occupation, said in an interview last week that “several tens of billions of dollars” will be needed in the coming year alone.

http://msnbc.com/news/960158.asp?0cl=c3
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 03:55 AM
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1. But the pressure must be enormous
Some German Green-Party and SPD officials are arguing in favor of sending peace keepers, as does the conservative opposition.
The German-Armed-Forces-Union expects an UN mandate and thus deployment in Iraq.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 04:11 AM
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2. Remember the signs at the gift stores, when you were little???
You Break it, you OWN it???

Well we barged in and BROKE it, and they told us not to, but we did it anyway, and now we expect them to chip in to pay for the damage that WE did ??? Suuuuuuure..:)
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 04:23 AM
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3. At last report. Nope, Nada, No one coming to the Dance,
Who will send their troops and monies to this place??

Its like a Blk Hole, what goes in stays.

Freedon Fries anyone???

Guess who got the chuckles now?

would that be Pierre??

Farme le buszh
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 04:27 AM
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4. It's our mess.
It's our mess, our reponsibilty.
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SideshowScott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 04:33 AM
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5. Can you BLAME them???
After the Bush Team and Republicans went on a hissy fit to nations who even had a shred of doubt was beyond dumb who can blame ANY country for saying hey you broke it you fix it..Its not like we didnt tell you so! After the childish freedom fries embrassment to Bush and his news partners in crime ( FOX news Esp ) fanning the flames of haterd for other nations NOW we are wondering why other countrys wont get involed!?!?! COMON! The stupidity of a of a foaming right winger is a wonder of the world..
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 06:07 AM
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8. Well our gov blackmail them into it?
n/t
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booksenkatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 04:57 AM
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6. Even if someone WANTED to send funds to help
Edited on Tue Sep-02-03 04:58 AM by patsified
how would the funds be administered? Are they expected to hand over $$ to the Bushes and let the Bushes decide? Would you give the Bushes a red cent on the honor system? The rest of the world has seen how this administration handles money (by pocketing it), they aren't fools!

edited for clarity

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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 05:11 AM
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7. GRAFT AND CORRUPTION RAMPANT IN BUSH ADMINISTRATION
Edited on Tue Sep-02-03 05:12 AM by saigon68
Just look at the quid pro quo to get contacts in IRAQ.

Massive political donations required.

All types of fundraising help demanded.

The $200.000,000.00 or more the Chimp has demanded must be paid by someone.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 06:14 AM
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9. How does the right wing over look this?B ible belt I mean.
Shall we take bets on how long we stay? Most of these countries left places when it started to cost them money.This has been sort of par through history. Why would countries that have this stuff in their history dump good money into these countries?
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 06:46 AM
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10. Such a mess
It is rapidly moving from a quagmire to an international disaster. The rest of the world will have to move to get rid of Bush and Cheney. When the PNAC'ers are imprisoned for war crimes and all their assets are seized, we can start to clean up the mess Anyone will be hard pressed to get them off the oil spigot. Why do you think we never protected the UN building in Baghdad? Bush doesn't want them there. Now that the whole infrastructure is tore up and depleted uranium scattered around who would want to be there.
Big question, why do all taxpayers have to pay for this fiasco? It should be on the heads of the PNAC/Neocon crowd who wanted to "Bring em On".
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Devils Advocate NZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 06:51 AM
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11. That headline should read: Countries balk at aiding Bush.
I am sure they have no problem with aiding Iraq, but we all know that this call for assistance from the Bush cabal has NOTHING to do with aiding Iraq, and EVERYTHING to do with aiding Bush's re-election chances.

If a Dem wins the election, I bet all these nations will be falling over themselves to offer assitance.

In other words, I believe that this is a strategic decision by nations such as Germany and France to ruin Bush's re-election chances. They have decided that the only way to correct the problems now facing the globe is to get rid of Bush, Call it sanctions against the US - sanctions designed to encourage regime change.

Let's hope that Bush doesn't steal the election again and force even more drastic measures.
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jenk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 06:56 AM
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12. they won't touch it with a 10 foot pole
hey, it's not anybody else's problem except ours
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 07:00 AM
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13. "Hello, my name's George and I was hoping you'd like to give
me some money to finish taking over some Middle Eastern oil fields. You see, I started, bu-but, not everybody is cooperating and now I don't have enough to do it all by myself.

"Oh yeah. I'm really sorry about all those nasty things I said about you back in March and those fibs I told about WMD... How much would you like to contribute?"
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 08:08 AM
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14. We have a dark shadowy administration
that dictates through fear and when in need talks of brotherhood.

Lacking distinctness in everything except organized crime.
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Tracer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 09:19 AM
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15. Little Georgie is shocked, SHOCKED, I Tell You!
His only "skill" is fundraising and THIS fundraising effort is a whopping failure.

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