Iraqi Freedom Party Investigation Counts 37,137 Civilian War Deaths

[althecat]

Civilian War Deaths In Iraq: The Numbers

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/020903iraq1.html

"After more than five weeks of intensive and thorough investigations carried out by hundreds of our party’s cadre, which included all villages, towns, cities and some of the desert areas etc. affected by the aggression (with exception of the Kurdish area), and also by interviewing hundreds of undertakers, hospitals officials and ordinary people in these places, the figure of civilians killed since the beginning of the invasion came to 37,137. This figure does not include militia, para-military or Saddam’s Fiday’een.

The breakdown of the total number of civilians killed during the invasion of Iraq is as follows (Please note that the names underneath represent that of 14 Governorates, excluding Iraqi Kurdistan):

Baghdad 6103
Mosul 2009
Basrah 6734
Nasiriyah 3581
Diwaniyah 1567
Kut 2494
Hillah 3552
Karbala (including Najaf) 2263
Samawah 659
Amarah 2741
Ramadi 2172
Kerkuk 861
Diyalah 604
Tikrit 1797

The above figures were the actual civilian deaths killed violently since the beginning of the invasion of Iraq in March this year and until the middle of June (including those killed after the fall of Saddam’s regime and who in a way of another caught between gunfire of the US troops and the Iraqi resistance). "

[Cha]

1. Jesus H. Christ! I hope everybody is happy they got "rid of..

sadam" and so many innocents along with him. And where is sadam anyway? :grr:

[ozymandius]

2. So barring the discovery of WMDs

We can write up 37,137 counts of homicide against Bush*, Cheney, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, et al.

[OneBlueSky]

3. well, we've avenged 9/11 ten times over . . .

opps . . . wrong targets . . . oh, well . . . they're arabs, and that's all that counts . . .

[SOS]

8. Wrong target can be proven

When the US attacked Afghanistan "the United States justified the strikes by invoking a clause in the UN charter granting nations the inherent right of individual or collective self-defense."

According to the UN charter "States can only use force in self defense, and only when their actions meet two criteria: they are necessary due to immediate threat and lack of alternatives, and the response is proportionate."

Why then did the US invoke Article 51 of the Charter for Afghanistan, but not Iraq? Because they could NOT meet the criteria. PROOF that the US had no ability to connect Saddam to Al Qaeda and no ability to demonstrate an immediate threat.

[FloridaPat]

4. I got into a heated discussion the first week the invasions

started with a friend of mine. I was complaining about the civilian deaths - then only a thousand or so. She pointed out that the bombs were smart bombs and very few civilians were being killed. I pointed out that the smart bombs hit Iran, Kuwait, and Saudi Arabia. I was told I was being too negative! This war is so criminal. Those idiots in DC belong in jail and everyone that helped them - like half of congress and the news media.

[PurityOfEssence]

5. How verifiable is this?

It's imperitive that we get numbers we can repeat endlessly. I don't want to cast aspersions on these, the extremely wronged people, I just want fairly accurate stats. The AP number was something like a fifth of this, so that's quite a lot of disparity.

Has there been any more verification of the estimated 10K-45K military deaths? These can't just be dismissed as Saddam thugs, many were fending off an invasion.

It's sickening to see the pundits, on the rare occasions when anyone really tries to stick it to Junior, snivel about the 200 some-odd Americans who died; we need to be talking about the tens of thousands of human beings who are no more.

Every death is the personal fault of George W. Bush; it was a war created to settle old scores, steal resources, show the wogs who's boss and gin up a political issue to win two elections in a row. It was a war of greed and duplicity that never should have happened.

[teryang]

6. "I don't do body counts"

Colin Powell

[IkeWarnedUs]

7. The US Army does not want the truth of the civilian casualties made public

From the subject article:

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Due to the absence in Iraq (with the exception of the Kurdish area) of functional communication systems with the outside World, our party headquarter in Baghdad tried to send me a fully comprehensive and detailed report by fax from Al-Sulaymaniyah (a Kurdish area). However, by crossing to the Kurdish area, the Kurdish “Peshmarga” searched the person carrying that report which was found with him and confiscated. According, he was handed over to the American troops where he was arrested and no one knows yet of his whereabouts.

This incident clearly indicates that the US Army does not want the truth of the civilian casualties made public.

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Is there ANY truth the Bush administration is NOT afraid of?