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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 01:53 AM
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Paris media reports that Yassir Arafat died moments ago
no link yet but Debkafile is scrolling this.
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 01:55 AM
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1. not to worry
Jesus W. Bush will protect us.


Cher
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countmyvote4real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 01:58 AM
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3. How many times does a man have to die...
to be declared dead?
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 01:58 AM
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2. God, I wish they stick to something. First he's dead, then
he's alive, dead, alive...
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 03:57 AM
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22. Geez, I so needed a laugh, thank you...LOL But you're right it's
wild wondering what's happening with him. Coma, awake, dying, not dying...leukemia, can't find anything WRONG *ahem* I'd say something is seriously medially WRONG with the guy. Geez

It's like watching an old black and white silent movie scene...they stumble get back up, swoon, drop, roll over, squirm...look up. Then grunt and die. Carl Reiner also comes to mind.


Nuff said.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 04:19 AM
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25. He's just pulling a Zarqawi.
NT!

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are_we_united_yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 02:00 AM
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4. Maybe
Diebold was pronouncing his death
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 02:00 AM
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5. How can I even begin to express that this is good news to me?
Surely the citizens of Palestine can do better than honor such a hateful terrorist that has as much blood on him as Ariel Sharon???

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The Zanti Regent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 02:04 AM
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7. This is not good news
Unless you beleive that rapture shit. Piggy Sharon is in for a rude awakening.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 02:10 AM
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10. No rapture cultist here, The Zanti Regent
Just another soul for Peace.
But I remember the attacks on kids using kids with bomb belts, as well as the Likkud ordered IDF terror tactics-it is a real tragedy when those that desire peace are overruled by both sides.

I won't shed any tears over Mr. Arafat's passing though.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 02:07 AM
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8. You shouldn't express things that aren't true
Edited on Sat Nov-06-04 02:09 AM by jobycom
This will lead to a bloody power struggle, and both sides will suffer. It's a very tense moment, not something to smile about.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 02:13 AM
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11. I'm not smiling nor rejoicing, jobycom.
You don't know me.

I have nothing else to say in this thread now.

Goodnight all.

Bob
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 02:19 AM
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13. If that's so, your post title is poorly written
because that is happy language.
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Amigust Donating Member (568 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 02:25 AM
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15. Just curious. What's not true in what bobthedrummer said?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 03:41 AM
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21. Uh, Yasser can give Ariel a good run for his money.
Or didn't you bother to educate yourself on that? Yasser isn't the father of the Palestinians, he is the father of modern terrorism.

And any Palestinian foolish enough to actually work toward peace ends up dead. Which tends to harden positions.

But let's reserve all our horror for Ariel. Still blaming him for Sabra and Shatila? Did he, perchance, FORCE the Lebanese to kill those people?
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Julien Sorel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 04:13 AM
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24. So many statements.
Or didn't you bother to educate yourself on that? Yasser isn't the father of the Palestinians, he is the father of modern terrorism.

If there is a "father" of "modern terrorism" (whatever that is) it would likely be Avraham Tehroni, the founder of Irgun (a Jewish group) in Israel. They were responsible, among other things, for planting bombs in market places to kill as many Arab civilians as possible. Of course, Israeli Jews are better than that that sort of thing nowadays; they use F-16s and laser guided bombs.

A better choice, however, would be Avraham Stern, the founder of LEHI, better known as the Stern Gang. Stern was a guy who used the word "terrorist" to describe himself. One of the graduates of the Stern Gang was Yitzhak Shamir, who would go on to be Prime Minister of Israel. Israel actually has a ribbon they give out to former members of LEHI. But remember, only Palestinians honor terrorists, those vicious people...


But let's reserve all our horror for Ariel. Still blaming him for Sabra and Shatila? Did he, perchance, FORCE the Lebanese to kill those people?

No, he only made sure they had the opportunity, and organized the invasion that made it all possible in the first place. He was also the guy who authorized the IDF to use rolling artillery barrages in civilian areas of Lebanon. When you find evidence of Arafat doing anything that even faintly resembles that, please be so kind as to post it. Or have you, yet again, dropped your customary bomb of bullshit and run off, never to return?



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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 04:24 AM
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26. WOW. I agree with you on something!
You're dead-on here.

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illuminaughty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 04:33 AM
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27. Thank you. No one ever seems to remember the Irgun
This will be a very tense moment in history. The Palestinians will mourn the loss of their leader as we prepare to level what's left of Fallujah. I believe the expression in Arabic (roughly) is "man erhabe?" (Who's the terrorist?)
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 02:00 AM
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6. Nothing yet on French wires
Nothing yet in Le Monde or AFP. Debkafile is a strange source.
He may be on life support until they decide the burial place since Muslims, like Jews are supposed to be buried within 24 hours after death.
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Amigust Donating Member (568 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 02:27 AM
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17. Debkafile can't be trusted
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foo_bar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 04:43 AM
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28. this link has him dead two days ago
Edited on Sat Nov-06-04 04:45 AM by foo_bar
http://iafrica.com/news/worldnews/388415.htm

Nope, scratch that:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/911150.cms

A spokesman for the French military hospital treating Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat has told reporters the ailing leader is not dead.
Earlier, Paris Proche Orient Info reported that Arafat has died. Another Paris media Radio Monte Carlo reported that Arafat is clinically dead.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 02:08 AM
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9. Yawn. Again? See if it's true this time. nt
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 02:18 AM
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12. Debka is NOT, repeat NOT, a real or accurate news source.
Edited on Sat Nov-06-04 02:26 AM by Spider Jerusalem
They are known to have rather close ties to the Mossad and Israeli military, and possibly the governemnt. It is in the interest of the Israeli government (or more specifically of Ariel Sharon) to spread disinformation concerning Arafat's demise in order to precipitate a reaction from the Palestinians. Once Arafat is gone, any unity among the Palestinians will likely evaporate as they split into factions, making the elimination of any possible coherent Palestinian power structure a much easier task for Sharon and the IDF.

And no credible news source has anything about Arafat being dead. Not Reuters, not the BBC, not the Guardian, not Agence-France-Presse, not CNN or anyone else.

You should really take any information you see on the Debka site with a grain of salt about the size of Gibraltar.
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KingChicken Donating Member (814 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 02:20 AM
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14. He was poisoned, time of death very "convienent" for U.S.
They are already speculating that he might have been poisoned a couple of weeks ago.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 02:27 AM
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16. This just in...
Palestinian leader Yassir Arafat is still dying.



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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 02:32 AM
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18. Ah, yes. "Debka" -- it's Hebrew for "Lying Sunzabitches".
It's a rather more modern term than you'd find in Biblical Hebrew.

--bkl
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 03:35 AM
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19. Dead man opens eyes? This is kinda fun.
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neomonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 03:36 AM
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20. LOL, I did a screen shot of that mess, my post and
bobthedrummers.

Very "funny" stuff.
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phasev Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 04:07 AM
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23. flip-flopper
first he's dead, then he's not, then he's dead...

flippity floppity flop
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