US Warns of Looming Threats in Iraq

[phillybri]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030904/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_030903160719

BAGHDAD, Iraq - The top U.S. commander in Iraq (news - web sites) said Thursday he needs more international forces to deal with an array of potential security threats, including al-Qaida terrorists, Iranian fighters and clashes between ethnic and religious militias.


This is the set-up: "We need help, if the UN refuses, it's their fault our troops continue to die."

[ixion]

1. Tough talk from a group who called the UN irrelevant.. and

swore that they would go it alone. Where are the video clips of chimpy saying:
"If the UN wants to remain relevant..."

:eyes:

[Gman]

2. I love seeing them BEG

for help from the UN. I hope France or Russia vetoes any resolution to help.

[Ripley]

3. Smirk needs to learn how to eat crow and ask for help.

I think he said something earlier this week like "I CHALLENGE the UN to do the right thing...blah blah blah..."

Yeah, that's the way to earn their respect and help...act like it's their fault! :crazy:

This reminds me...did Tucker ever eat his shoe (because of Hillary's book sales)?

[FauxNewsBlues]

6. Tucker ate a shoe cake

It was kinda lame. Tucker was presented with a cake shaped like a shoe to eat. Bow tied geek should have been forced to eat leather.

[newyawker99]

17. Hi FAuxNewsBlues!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[kainah]

19. not even "challenge the UN"

He challenged other countries, still not acknowledging an international organization of countries. He has no right now to expect them to do anything but turn their back on him. He's like all spoiled children who make terrible messes that will only get worse unless someone cleans them up. He won't learn his lessons and responsible grown-ups will have to bail him out. I hope the diplomats at the UN can figure out something because the consequences now are so horrific.

[madrchsod]

4. i see ap has the lastest

rove memo..change to "major" fighting...

[rwork]

5. The US

will have to except a total UN mandate.

[Bonhomme Richard]

7. It's bush's fault that troops continue to die!

I can't believe they are trying to shift blame for this fiasco on the UN when they thought it was a bad idea from the get go.

[RedEarth]

8. More troops .....???

Wasn't just about a week ago the US commander, and the pentagon, said "we don't need more troops, but better intelligence"? Sure sounds like they had a good post-war plan.

This is the set-up: "We need help, if the UN refuses, it's their fault our troops continue to die."......I wouldn't be surprised if we heard something like this in the future.

[saigon68]

9. MONEY DOWN A RAT-HOLE

Is anyone as outraged as I am over this???

$70,000,000,000.00 to blow the crap out of a country that has all the demeanor of a homeless drunk and panhandler on the streets of D. C.

I guess we have NO---

1. Children to educate in the U.S.

2. Seniors who need prescription drugs.

3. Unemployed workers here.

4. Veterans of this or prior Wars to take care of.

5. Crumbling infastructure to fix.

6. Electrical or water grid problems.

7. Problems with social security.

8. Lagging economy with 2 million fewer jobs than 3 years ago.


Ho- Hum what uncaring scum ---Cheney, Wolfie and the CHIMP.

[rwork]

11. I read yesterday on du

about our first Iragi war, homeless vet. She has a child and cannot get medical treatment. I believe Sen., Kennedy stepped in for her, to get her some help. Unbelievable.

[Ripley]

16. While Smirk is lying on TV saying he has created jobs and growth..

yesterday they laid off another 500 plant employees in Birmingham, where they closed a chicken plant due to the poor economy. Hmmm..wonder if those people will thank the chimp?

[indepat]

18. Siagon68, he neocons carefully considered those eight concerns you list,

but since the neocons realize our resources are finite, they priortized and these eight concerns just weren't that significant in the big scheme of things.

[kainah]

20. Instead, the Iraqis get health care & new schools

That's what I think people need to remind their neighbors of. While our health care system is in crisis and our schools are crumbling, they have pledged tens of thousands of new schools for Iraq & health care for all Iraqis.

[pippin]

10. it's their (the U.N.'s) fault?

quoth the "top U.S. commander: if the UN refuses, it's their fault our troops continue to die. "

'scuse me? who got them in there in the first place? :mad:

[phillybri]

14. That was my take, not a direct quote....

But, I could see some asshole like Hannity or Coulter saying that....

[underpants]

12. Rummy- "Maybe another division"

US Secretary of State Donald Rumsfeld revealed that "maybe another division" would be needed in Iraq (news - web sites), where the United States has 140,000 troops on the ground(AFP/File/Paul. J Richards)

[gratuitous]

13. Gee, you mean fightin' a war isn't pro wrestling writ large?

You know, a lot of tough talk, bellicose raging, posturing and preening leading up to about 30 seconds of "action" and then it's all over? Who'da thunk it?

And why didn't someone try to warn the corrupt Bush administration about this?

[wryter2000]

15. Oh, God

This one is killing me. I soooooo want the UN, France, and Germany to tell Chimpy to stuff it. I want them to throw his nasty words in his face. But dammit, if getting the UN in there will save some lives, that's what we have to do. And if they have any consciences, they'll see that, too. But I swear to whatever gods there may be, if this saves Chimpy McAWOL's ass, I'm going to cry. :cry:

[JohnyCanuck]

21. Columnist Gwynne Dyer thinks Dubya might be hung out to dry.

At the popular level, in many countries, there is also a grim satisfaction at the mess the Bush administration has got itself into: “We told the Americans it was a bad idea, and they did it anyway, so let them clear it up if they can.”

This attitude is mercifully not shared by any of the governments that have a major say at the UN: they know that the United States is central to the international system and that civil war and collapse in Iraq could be disastrous for the whole Middle East.

However, there is one very strong argument on the other side. Nobody talks openly about this, but many governments are also privately debating whether they want to help save the Bush administration from the consequences of its own folly. Without a lot of military and financial help that can only come via the UN, Bush may be dragged down to defeat by the Iraq war in the November 2004 election. With the extra troops and money, he might contain the problem enough to survive. However, they ask themselves, do we really want that?

Few people in Washington grasp how alarmed other governments are by the Bush administration’s pre-emptive strategy. They see the neo-conservatives as a mortal threat to the UN, NATO and the entire multilateral order that has been built up over the past 50 years as the foundation of global stability. Maybe, they think, it would be better to wait until Iraq drags Bush down and start picking up the pieces in early 2005.

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