DEM DEBATE THREAD NOW!!!

[matcom]

on PBS

[LosinIt]

1. So f'n cool that it is bilingual!

Although I am sure it will piss off a lot of freepers that it is.

[matcom]

3. yes it is!

and yes, it WILL ! :D

[Emboldened Chimp]

2. Is there a streaming link?

[Kolesar]

9. streaming du link

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=108&topic_id=33315

I just started fussing with it. I do not know how it works . I know it is 225 bps, which is fast, ala' cable modem

[Kolesar]

12. it just bombed for me. It is on at 9 in Cleveland

[kainah]

11. another thread says the answer is NO n/t

[Emboldened Chimp]

32. I found one

http://kunm.unm.edu/listen/

[kainah]

4. PBS Denver not showing it until 10 PM MT

which is bad enough but I also have a national PBS feed through the satellite dish and they don't seem to be airing it AT ALL! :shrug:

[goobergunch]

7. PBS Philly not showing until 10 PM either=past bedtime (n/t)

[Hawkeye-X]

27. phew

I want to catch it. I'm in Denver also. I want to see the debates and CAPTIONED! :evilgrin:

[Liberalboy]

What are you talking about???

Channel 12 has it on right now!

[mvd]

79. Not on here

This Old House is on.

[goobergunch]

5. good...

as I'm stuck on the computer doing homework.

[rocketdem]

6. not here in Alabama

On Alabama PBS right now we have The New This Old House.

Apparently, PBS is being run by the wingnuts here in this state.

Fuckers.

[Skwmom]

46. Same in Savannah Georgia

Looking at the schedule it's not going to be on at all.

[graelent]

8. Need Commentary

Hey guys, I am at work and can't watch the debate. I would love any commentary anyone can provide...

[never cry wolf]

51. Streaming audio here:

http://www.wnyc.org/news/articles/20032

[matcom]

10. Dean: "Now we need UN help and that is NOT a surprise"

Re: IRAQ

Gephart up now

[matcom]

13. Gephart: "Bush NOT doing his job leading the world"

Kucinich up now

[matcom]

14. Kucinich: "Bring the Troops Home"

and then in SPANISH :D

[matcom]

15. Kucinich: "No More Haliburton SweetHeart Deals"

:thumbsup:

[cthrumatrix]

16. DK says "no more sweetheart Halliburton deals"....big applause

[cthrumatrix]

17. and that UN should handle the OIL...!

[aquart]

114. Who said UN should handle the oil?

Dear God, what a completely terrifying idea.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Not a good idea. No, no, not workable, possible, desirable. No, no, no.

[matcom]

18. Kerry: "Going back to U.N. Raises Our Standing In The World"

"the swagger of a pres who says 'bring 'em on' does NOT ensure our Troop safety'

[Rose Siding]

19. The question for Kerry

was asked of him as a "strong supporter of the war".

[matcom]

20. Lieberman: "I believe the war against Saddam was Right"

.

[matcom]

21. Lieberman: "no planning was done by admin"

.

[Kolesar]

22. PLEASE TURN OFF YOUR SIG-LINES (FOR THE SAKE OF DIAL-UP DUERS)

[goobergunch]

24. There's an option in "User" to turn off sig lines...

so you don't have to load the sigs, but they are still displayed.

[matcom]

23. Sharpton NOT there due to 'weather delays'

just a note

[birdman]

63. Didn't he stiff his travel agent for $200,000 ?

Pay up, Al, and maybe you'll be able to get
on the plane.

[tjdee]

78. Carol Moseley Braun is such a doll.

She's such an excellent speaker and raises really great points.
I certainly hope she sticks around.

[NekoChris]

25. Durn it dooderz

I don't have sound or RealMedia on this PC at work.

Keep the transcription coming.

You're my only hope! :o

[matcom]

26. Grahm: "rebuild Kyoto and other Treaties"

"no wonder we have trouble getting support"....

[GBD4]

29. Graham: we are losing environmental sanity

i.e. breaking treaties

[matcom]

28. Braun: "OBL 'missing'"

we "forgot" about him

"resolution allowed * to go off without oversight"

[matcom]

30. Braun: "* failed to go after SH and OBL"

"challenge is to get out 'with honor'"

[matcom]

31. Edwards: "what we see is a pattern by * .... alienation"

"SH gone is a good thing for the people (American people too). CRUCIAL that we bring in our allies. * didn't"...

[GBD4]

33. Gephardt: This President is a miserable failure

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

38. Gep just ripped Bush a new one

He called Bush a "miserable failure" twice!!!

[matcom]

34. Gephart: "we cannot cut and run"

need a coalition....

"BUSH a MISERABLE FAILURE"

"i can't believe....."

" we would wind up in our current situation...."

[Forkboy]

35. Gephardt "This President is a miserable failure."

[Emboldened Chimp]

36. * is a Miserable Failure!!!!

Wow, from Gephart no less!

[DemNoir]

37. WOW

Gephart awesome right now

[Papa]

39. Yes, he said it 3 times, BUSH IS A MISERABLE FAILURE

to much applause

[Sean Reynolds]

41. 4 times! Ended with miserable! ;)

:bounce:

Go Gep!

[baby_bear]

69. Gephardt has been saying exactly that for months

<snip from his June 17, 2003 letter to Move.On>
The Bush administration has been a miserable failure. Over three million private sector jobs have been lost. More than 40 million Americans have no health care. People are losing jobs, losing health care, and they are losing hope.
</snip>
http://www.moveon.org/pac/cands/gephardt.htmld


I kind of like it myself -- has a nice ring to it.
"Bush is a miserable failure."

s_m

[matcom]

40. Gephart: "THIS president has to lead

and he HASn'T lead...

[matcom]

42. Lieberman: "they are enemy's of civilization. we need more troops"

etc.....

[NekoChris]

47. ARGH

No like Liberman. They should chloroform him so the others have more time to speak.

[never cry wolf]

43. Holy Joe

Need more troops, in a terrible war on terrorism...:puke:

[Hoppin_Mad]

44. Why'd they let a republican war-mongerer in the debates ?

LIE-berman.

He should change parties !

[AP]

54. He's insurance incase there's an American Reichstag Fire, or something

that pushes all America to the verge of fascism before the end of the primaries. He gives the Democrats someone who can split the fascist vote with Bush.

[matcom]

45. Dean: "supported the Afghan war but.....

pres told us uranium from Africa....not true

many falsehoods....

etc....

"""

[Sean Reynolds]

50. We need more troops..FOREIGN troops! OURS NEED TO COME HOME!

Kick ass Dean!

[Woodstock]

76. LIKE WE SHOULD HAVE DONE IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!

Kabam.

[Sean Reynolds]

Dean "Wanna invest in America...STAY in America with those jobs!"

[NekoChris]

48. Is anyone

Saving the debate perhaps? If it's streaming, there might be a way to save the original .ram file.

[Rose Siding]

49. Dean- More troops in Iraq?

Listing BushCo lies, we're in more danger from al qaeda now than before we took Saddam down.

We need more foreign troops as we should have had in the first place- ours need to come home.

[robbedvoter]

66. Dean and Kerry sounded identical on the troops and a few

other things on the war - Kerry tryes to sound anti-war, dean softens his stance...So far only Kuchinich said what I wanted to hear.

[Woodstock]

75. Oh man, he was good at kicking Bush butt

and Mosely Braun is doing damn good herself.

[alcuno]

52. I live in Illinois, a state awash in Democrats, and it's not ON!

Anyone know if WTTW will broadcast this debate?

[tjdee]

58. If you head over to GD, there's a place online showing it...

There's a thread in GD that gives the link...

[alcuno]

62. Thanks. It just really irritates me.

n/t

[tjdee]

53. NO NEW AMERICAN TROOPS--John Kerry.

That's interesting. He feels we should have others come in...but...um...hmm.

[matcom]

55. Kerry: "I warned the * not to rush to war"

"i disagree with Joe that we do not need more troops...."

[Emboldened Chimp]

56. Kerry: no new nukes!

Right on!

[xxqqqzme]

57. thought Richardson

was running 4 VP w his beginning remarks...not that that is a bad thing but hasn't his tune changed? He wasn't spouting democratic loser council lines 2nite. I thought he was a very forceful presence. I'm glad this is in NM. If there was an ocean or even a big lake, I'd live there in a second.

[matcom]

59. Kucinich: "economy does not have manufacturing policy"

"we will have a policy when i am President...."

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

67. Kucinich just said he'd get us out of NAFTA and GATT

Dennis said this wild applause of course!

[matcom]

60. Kucinich: "I will cancel NAFTA and WTO....."

...

[Emboldened Chimp]

64. Big cheer for that one!

[tjdee]

65. Whenever DK says this, I go... Whaaa??

You can't cancel NAFTA and the WTO by your lonesome, DK...I understand the sentiment, but let's get real....

[goobergunch]

70. I've wondered about that

Since the WTO is a treaty, could Kucinich pull out of that like * pulled out of the ABM treaty?

[GreenArrow]

104. yes

.

[Forkboy]

61. DK is excellent

[GBD4]

68. Graham: I am bringing the experience of creating new jobs

(as done while governor)

[AP]

Gephardt can brag about creating new jobs for Republican congresspeople

during his term as house leader.

[matcom]

74. we can build bridges in Afghanistan

we can do it here in America

[tjdee]

71. Schools tumbling in on children??

Whoa, Graham had to go and get all creepy on us, LOL.

[GBD4]

72. Graham: If we can rebuild Iraq,

why not rebuild America?

[Woodstock]

93. Graham is impressive, this is a strong Dem field, folks

Except for Lieberman, I'm feeling pretty good about all of them.

[Woodstock]

73. DEAN ROCKED!!!

Damn Dean was good. He is ON tonight. I liked Mosley-Braun, too. Even Edwards was good. And Gephardt surprisingly so. Kerry fell a bit flat, as usual (I really want to like him he just doesn't have fire - sorry.)

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

77. Moseley-Braun: "End trickle down economics"

She said embedded wealth and entrenched poverty are increasing, and for the first time the middle class is shriking.

Just got wild applause for talking about pay gap for women.

[Woodstock]

88. She is fantastic

I'm so glad she is still in the race and speaking out.

[dflprincess]

80. Minneapolis/St Paul not running it until 8pm Central

channel 17

[matcom]

81. Dean: "would not get rid of NAFTA and WTO...."

....

[GBD4]

82. Dean: stop paying for Middle East oil

...it's funding terrorists

[tjdee]

83. I don't think we should get rid of NAFTA, WTO...Dean.

Whoo, did you see that glare from Kucinich to Dean!

[goobergunch]

87. argh...I smell a flame war

*ducks*

[AP]

92. Yeah, wasnt this a litmust-test issue for lots of Deanies?

...

[never cry wolf]

101. yeah, there it is, holy joe

:puke:

[Woodstock]

84. Dean: Jobs ought to STAY IN AMERICA

Stop corporate welfare. Invest in America. Keep jobs in America. YEAH!!!

[GBD4]

85. Edwards: the only Spanish Bush speaks

is hasta la vista to jobs

[AP]

89. a shout out to the latinos y latinas in the audience.

[Sean Reynolds]

90. You mean the WHOLE audience?

;-)

[Papa]

86. Carol Mosley Braun ... great !!!!

Wow, she's great. Good feedback from audience. It's amazing how articulate all the candidates are. Bush looks like a fucking 4 year old in comparison...can put about 4 1/2 words together max.

[DemNoir]

91. Best news for Dems ....

Everyone is looking very good so far.

[GBD4]

95. AGREE

:)

[matcom]

94. Lieberman FIRST to attack Dean

over Free Trade with Latin America

[Forkboy]

96. Joe gets groans for harping on Dean

:)

[Woodstock]

More groans - Lieberman digging a hole and getting deeper

Didn't he learn the first time? He's a joke.

[GBD4]

97. Lieberman

Bush recession followed by Dean depression

[Sean Reynolds]

100. Did you hear the boos?

OOOH!

[huckleberry]

103. lieberman needs to get off the stage.

yuk!!

[Woodstock]

98. Is this the first attack? Lieberman is dissing Dean

What an ass. This was a collective assault on Bush. And he turns it into this. Jerkoff.

[Forkboy]

105. Dean's answer was great

Joe is sooooo toast.

[Rose Siding]

108. That audience liked Dean better

*applause*

[LosinIt]

99. LIE-berman Dean Depression

bite me JOE

[Sean Reynolds]

106. DEAN KICKED JOE'S ASS!

OH YEAH!

[jos]

102. Lieberman sucks!

Republican-lite trade policies.

[Emboldened Chimp]

107. Holy Joe jumping in out of turn

trying to defend himself. Putz.

[Sean Reynolds]

110. but....but.....but.....but.

BUT my ass Joe. You got KICKED in the ass by Dean! :bounce:

[GBD4]

109. Kerry

the only jobs Bush created were 9: the jobs of us running to replace him

[never cry wolf]

111. SHUT UP, JOE

JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!

[VolcanoJen]

112. LOCKING... continue in LBN Debate Thread #2

Click here to continue discussion:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=97921

Thanks! :-)

GO DEMS!!!!!!

VolcanoJen
DU Moderator

[Hoppin_Mad]

113. Kerry has a good joke writer

"The Dow and S&P just went up - which proves good things happen when Bush is on vacation "