White House Slams Door on U.N. Inspections in Iraq

[peterh]

<http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/9/5/123502.shtml>

United Nations -- Despite public pronouncements of wanting a "larger" role for the United Nations in Iraq, the Bush administration shelved (at least temporarily) any effort for the resumption of arms inspections by the world body.

"What is (David) Kay doing in Iraq? Nobody seems to know," asked one U.N. official.
The U.N. source speculated that had Kay and his U.S. search teams found anything substantive, news of the find would have leaked out.
A senior U.N. official told NewsMax that as time goes on and no proof emerges on any major weapons find, the suspicion that something could be "manufactured" grows:
"That is where we (the U.N.) come in. We could provide an independent verification of whatever the U.S. comes up with. We could provide credibility to the findings."

The dilemma for the U.S. could be that the U.N. might also throw doubt on any such findings.



Yep…we mustn’t complicate the delicate task that David Kay has of conjuring up his web of fabrications

[wryter2000]

1. They have no shame. None.

Lying bastards. Jumping Jeeeeehosophat! Lives are being lost on both sides, and they won't cooperate with inspectors. Bloodthirsty warmongers. :argh:

[UpInArms]

2. to have shame,

one must possess a conscience.

The junta possesses no conscience, thus shame is not an available emotion.

[zbdent]

3. sarcasm - That liar! Bush said we had found the WMDs!

He said so! If Bush says so, then it is reality, right?????

end sarcasm

[MuseRider]

4. Well, this is not a surprise

what is a surprise is there are still people walking around who still fall for this.

[wtmusic]

5. David Kay and 1200 agents must be doing something wrong

if they can't find WMD's in Iraq. Time to let a group who's really good at not finding them have another shot </sarcasm>.

[Ernesto]

22. If in fact there are 1200

people searching on behalf of the chimp's next election scheme, I think congress should demand the price of this fishing trip. This broke-dick administration is crying for UN help, but would rather we foot the bill while the meter is running. What a crock of fical matter!

[Wetzelbill]

25. They are around Tikrit and Baghdad

north, west, east south....somewhat.

Didn't you know that? C'mon!

Heil Chimpster!

[Ernesto]

27. 1200?

Imagine the logisticle cost, the cost to proptect them..... And the very experienced UN has offered to do the job. Somthing is rotten in Iraq... No make that: somthing really stinks in the white house.

[tweekinnow]

6. Ha Ha Ha

the suspicion that something could be "manufactured" grows:

Says it all for me!!!

[ixion]

7. is there any doubt that they'll try and manufacture WMD's?

the neocons have already tried to plant once. Blocking the UN inspectors just proves they're trying to pull something again, IMO.

[tom_paine]

10. No doubt whatsoever

n/t

[DulceDecorum]

12. The UN inspectors

will probably give Iraq a clean bill of health.
Iraq was recieving UN oil payments in euros NOT US dollars.

Once Iraq is free and clear, it will probably resume oil shipping - what little it can manage - and it will be paid in euros by the parties who are doing the buying. This will probably be supervised by the UN which allowed Saddam to set up the orginal euro account.

At present, the US is able to insist on payment being in dollars but it cannot maintain this position for long.
Once the last GI Joe in Iraq is killed, the dollar in Iraq will be history. And with that will crumble the mighty US of A.

They went in there to stop the petroleum from being sold in euros and that is the reason why they stay.

[prolesunited]

16. At the risk of exposing my ignorance here

Why would it matter if the oil was sold in Euros rather than dollars and why would that be more important than having direct control of the oil itself?

[Dhalgren]

19. If I understand it correctly (and I may not!), it goes like this:

If an American Oil company wants to order 500,000 gal. of crude to be delivered and paid for next Janurary, the conpany buys it at say US$20/barrel. Next Jan. the company pays over that amount regardless of how the dollar may have fluxuated in the mean time - it's still $20. But if the currancy is Euros and say the price was EU$20, by next Jan. if the dollar has dropped campared to the EU, then EU$20 might equal US$40 in Jan. At least this is how it was explained to me as to why this was so important.

[prolesunited]

30. Thanks

That makes sense to me know and I can see why it would be such a big deal. With our country in such an economic mess and massive deficits, I can't see the dollar holding its value.

[Wetzelbill]

26. Hey they already planted that fraud

Khidir Hamza in front of Congress and in all the media. He even has that "Saddam's Bombmaker" book out. They'll do anything.

[tom_paine]

8. The Stalinism is really kicking into overdrive, isn't it?

No one notices, even if they did, who would acre. Much more odious and hurtful lies from WMD to EPA have already gone Orwell-style into the Memory Hole.

The Amerikan Empire is HERE. And the dominant characteristics of said Empire are jaded laziness from the Serfs and Stalinist lies from the Busheviks.

What a sad, pathetic joke.

[LittleApple81]

9. Are you planning to go to the Oct 25 demonstration? Perhaps if all of us

go with pots and pans (a la Argentina and Chile) we might get some attention if nothing else.

[short bus president]

11. Careful!

Those pots and pans might be mistaken for grenade launchers if you're of middle-Eastern descent, or for handguns if you're black.

"Their trigger fingers... want an excuse."

("Riot" - Dead Kennedys)

[LittleApple81]

13. Boy! We are now worse off than the Argentinians and the Chileans! n/t

[tom_paine]

17. Oh, I wouldn't say that yet

But I wouldn't vouch for the rest of the coming Bush Imperial Dynasty

2009-2017 Emperor Jeb
2017-2025 Emperor Ahnold "I'm a Mindless Bushevik Clone but They Needed Someone to Show We Aren't an Imperial Dynasty Because a Lot of People Werer Starting to Ask Questions So Here I am"

(this position could also be filled by Heydrich Racicot or Speer Ridge)

and of course, when the shit hits the fan

2025-2033 Emperor George P. Caligula

Oh, I suspect that by HIS reign, Chile and Argentina will be equal to us, if not better off, in more ways than one.

Of course, by then the Age of Totalitarianism will be well along, and Bushevik Darkness may have spread very widely by then, so maybe they WILL be worse off than our wretched descendants...

Boy would THAT suck, what could be worse than Imperial Amerika, circa 2030...the Old Soviet Union, circa 1950?

[MoonAndSun]

14. The best thing about this article is that it is from Newsmax....

there was an editorial from the rightwing Union Leader on another thread which bashed the new RNC head, Gillespie. If I find a link I'll post it. The gist of it is that this GOP is not the GOP of a real conservative. It was a good read.

[Emillereid]

15. This is all the proof I need that the Bushits

are planting WMDs in Iraq -- why else would they not want the help and expertise of the UN inspectors -- people who can actually tell the difference in weapons that the Iraqis made from the high grades ones the US makes. Something is definitely very rotten in these here United States.

[damnraddem]

18. More proof that we needn't worry that the UN will bail Dubya out.

Dubya won't let it.

[BelgianMadCow]

20. nevertheless, what I worry about

is a deal at Security Council level that would let the UN back in.

But last time they tried, bush* ended up not calling the cards as promised, and going away from the table. So I am hopeful.

[David Zephyr]

21. Ha!

Le Figaro: "Bush's strategy is insolent. He is calling for help, then trying to dictate the terms of the rescue."

Le Figaro: "Why should it spill the blood of its soldiers and jeopardise the credibility of its diplomacy just to assure the re-election of George W Bush?"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3084060.stm

[robbedvoter]

23. Who needs UN inspectors? Our own people see there's nothing! Ex:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2003/08/24/international1334EDT0463.DTL&nl=fix

AP Exclusive: U.S. military analysts who
examined Iraqi drones discount Bush
administration view the unmanned aircraft
can spread weapons

DAFNA LINZER and JOHN J. LUMPKIN, Associated
Press Writers


Sunday, August 24, 2003

[Wetzelbill]

24. I would like to say that I'm surprised

but with these clowns nothing would do that to me anymore. Shameful people. I couldn't live with myself if I was as low as our current administration.

[Snellius]

28. People who don't trust themselves don't trust anyone else

The Bushies obviously are projecting that the U.N. inspectors may fabricate evidence just as they would do. They're more mental than Nixon and just as detached from reality and paranoid.

[w4rma]

29. And more soldiers die because of neo-con hubris (n/t)

[roguevalley]

31. chocolate eaters- zero, dick head-one

of all the cow flop tossing stupidity, this is right up there.
But I suppose you can't put them in if real inspectors are there.
Who would know a plant if not them?