CNN Poll: 29% Definitely Voting for Bush, 41% Definitely Not

[VaLabor]

Yes, that's what was released this afternoon, according to the Daily Kos.

http://www.dailykos.com

[MoonAndSun]

1. Whoa - a CNN poll that looks bad for bush*!!!!

hell has frozen over:evilgrin:

[DemPopulist]

16. CNN/Time polls...

conducted by Harris, I believe, are almost always worse for Bush than CNN/USA Today polls conducted by Gallup. Go figure.

[TacticalPeek]

37. There was a thread floating around here in the last week or two

with a comment by a former, longtime Gallup employee that explains this somewhat. Change in ownership and management, less critical focus, etc.

[rabid_nerd]

18. CNN LINK!!

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0309/05/ip.00.html

[NewYorkerfromMass]

24. Woodruff: "...his re-election is hardly a sure thing." ?????

I'd say it's hardly likely. :shrug:

[Emboldened Chimp]

2. The approval ratings are good news, too

Ten down, two up. Not a good trend.

[piece sine]

3. can't find these CNN results...

not for love or money....tore the CNN site apart. Would like to pass it on but I want the results from CNN itself.

[grasswire]

4. I've been watching CNN all afternoon...

....and I haven't heard this poll mentioned. I'd feel better if there were some verification for it.

[grasswire]

6. I don't see anything about it...

...on CNN's web site either.

[Catherine Vincent]

8. Well you missed it. I saw that poll too.

I think it was when they were discussing the dem candidates.

[diplomats]

10. Someone said it was on Inside Politics

Of course, if it's bad for Bush they're probably trying to downplay or ignore it. BTW, just for comparison: I checked www.pollingreport.com, and the last CNN/Time poll (July) had 33 percent very likely to support Bush and 36 percent very unlikely to. So 29 percent very likely and 41 percent very unlikely is pretty big change - a 3 point negative differential to a 12-point one.

[WillyT]

14. Transcripts For 'Inside Politics' Are Posted Here:

Although they don't have today's up as of this moment!

Link: http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ip.html

I'll check back later.

:shrug:

[diplomats]

5. Actually, it's nine down, one up

That site doesn't have the most recent Ipsos-Reid poll, which is down from the one posted. BTW, does anyone know what Bush's approval rating is in the CNN/Time poll?

[Catherine Vincent]

7. Don't forget the 20 something percent that are undecided.

n/t

[ewagner]

9. Republican challengers?

Interesting concept.

If Bush appears vulnerable, then the repubs would be obligated to positon themselves for 2006, and 2008. If Bush's numbers fall any lower, this could become a reality. The benefit would be a major divide in the rep party which could benefit the democratic chances for regaining the Senate and (almost too much to hope for) the House too.

btw: my Congressman tells me that the best kept secret in DC is just how terribly divided the Repubs are. The House Repub leadership under the leadership of the Hammer is arrogantly pursuing a far more right wing agenda than even the White House is confortable with. Bush can't control Delay and his group of loonies.

[grytpype]

11. Is Junior still a "shoe-in" for (re) election?

You have to wonder how long the SCLM is going to anoint Duhbya as Resident for Life.

[MissouriTeacher]

12. At 30%

It sounds like only the loyal Republicans are still pulling for him.

I have a big hunch that Bush will not gain nearly as much of the independent vote in '04.

[diplomats]

15. His approval rating among independents

is a lot closer to his approval rating among Dems than to his approval rating among Repubs (I've noticed this in several polls). He's keeping the conservatives but dropping precipitously among everyone else.

[berry]

27. From some articles posted in Editorials, it appears that a lot of

anti-neocon feeling is bubbling up among paleo-cons. One article went to great lengths to argue that Bush* himself is not a neocon, so they are seeing that position (interventionism and Iraq, etc) as a liability. They want to keep Bush* (who's a winner, they presumably think), but want to dump the neo-cons--though they don't name names, except for Wolfowitz and Perle. I wonder if a dump Cheney and Rumsfeld will follow. I think they're afraid of the fallout from failure in Iraq. (There's no backpedaling that I can see on the economics front.)

Here's the link to the "Bush is not a neo-con" article. (I know, it's newsmax, but that's where to look for trends in conservative thought)

http://www.newsmax.com/cgi-bin/printer_friendly.pl?page=http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/9/4/212858.shtml

[gristy]

13. THAT is an amazing poll results

and looks very, very, very bad for BFEE. :bounce:

[rabid_nerd]

17. CNN LINK!!!

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0309/05/ip.00.html

[WillyT]

19. Thanks RN, Woo, Hoo !!!

:bounce:

[NNN0LHI]

21. They sure didn't dwell on these remarkable numbers very long

JUDY WOODRUFF, CNN ANCHOR: Thank you for joining us.

While President Bush is stumping for votes in Indiana, our new poll out this hour suggests that his re-election is hardly a sure thing. While 29 percent of Americans say they will definitely vote for Mr. Bush in 2004, 41 percent say they'll definitely vote against him. And 25 percent say they could go either way.

In head-to-head matchups with the Democratic presidential candidates, Mr. Bush beats them all, including the new leader of the pack in our national poll, John Kerry. Kerry apparently got a bounce from his formal campaign announcement this week, and has moved ahead of Joe Lieberman. Howard Dean is in third place, the only other Democrat in the double digits. The '04 Democrats and the president are doing battle today over the latest unemployment numbers. The jobless rate slipped to 6.1 percent last month, a slight improvement the White House calls promising. But at the same time, companies slashed 93,000 workers from their payrolls.

John Kerry issued a statement saying -- quote -- "George Bush insults every American who has been thrown out of work when he comes back from his vacation and claims that he is turning the economy around."

[Bandit]

36. 25% say they could go either way

If only ten percent go against Bush* that makes it 51% Just about the same as last election. I expect it to at least be evenly divided. 12% against Bush* and 13% for him. If that is the case he's toast.

[The Magistrate]

39. This Is Excellent News, My Friend!

It is a rule of thumb, too, that the bulk of "undecided" persons break against the incumbent.

[NNN0LHI]

41. I agree, Sir. Very good news indeed n/t

[ozymandius]

43. Sir, are you really a magistrate?

I've always held the highest regard for your posts and, notably, the reasoned thoroughness with which you often state your case. I couldn't help but ask if the vocation went hand-in-hand with your written personality.

[diplomats]

40. I'd like to see these matchup numbers

"In head-to-head matchups with the Democratic presidential candidates, Mr. Bush beats them all."

[BelgianMadCow]

25. Thanks RN ! This is good news...

It would seem like the momentum has shifted.
I can only be fearful of some ways to shift momentum back.

[fla nocount]

26. Can anyone say Agnew/Nixon? His handlers have given up on him.

He's an insufferable embarrassment. Who's our Gerald Ford, McCain? Who's our Jimmy Carter? Scary, scary, who's our B grade actor? No, no it's the egg-a-nator.

[Nottingham]

20. If it is this Bad Bush is gonna have to Steal the election

or have Marshall Law! Finally the Networks Know that they can't hold back the Anti Bush sentiment anymore!

:bounce:

[goforit]

32. Maybe.....with a little more vindictiveness!!!...........OUCH!!!!

Wonder what place he'll target this time?

And can you imagine people still throw money to him?

[Rollins]

34. Too much power and money

Too much is riding on this election for the Neo-con and other usurpers to let it pass just because they wouldn't be able to win the popular vote. They will try anthing to remain in power, ANYTHING.

As we saw in 2000 there are many ways to skirt the popular vote. These leaders of our capitalistic society did not get to the top by following their conscience or their morals, they have no problem cheating. Think Cheney or Delay has a good angel on thier shoulder telling them, "You should not adopt policy X because it might hurt the workers"?
Please.....lol

This is greed baby, the ultimate addiction.

[NNN0LHI]

22. No wonder they have us looking out for terra-ists again everywhere n/t

[Gman]

23. He's down to the hard core right wing in his "definitely" numbers

It won't go much lower than 29%. Maybe 25% but that's rock bottom. The nut case right wing make up about 20% - 25% of the electorate.

[NNN0LHI]

28. It depends how many of those hard core Repugs still have jobs

They will turn on Junior too if they can't support their families. Thats exactly what happened to the old man.

Don

[NNN0LHI]

29. Double post

[Wickerman]

30. What the hell is wrong with those 29% that would vote FOR him?

[goforit]

31. These are his robotic zombies that will jump off a bridge when he tells

them to.

They have chosen to join the cult of blithering idiots.

[TacticalPeek]

35. They are hopeless jihadists.

n/t

[JPace]

48. Many are one issue people.....

dedicated to their one issue at all costs,

1) don't ever think about touching my gun
2) we will force every pregnant woman to give birth
3) die hard racists

[Fleshdancer]

33. well that explains bush's motives for...

addressing the nation on Sunday.

[0rganism]

38. Bush's campaign has yet to spend a dime, as far as I can tell

Things are going to be a lot tighter when Mr. Moneybags gets to work on the other 30%. Once the Democratic primary is over and there's a challenger to smear, look for the big spending to begin.

[David Zephyr]

42. Is This Breaking Story Related to This Breaking Story?

AP News Breaking: Bush to address nation Sunday night at 8

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=99300

[Minstrel Boy]

44. This is reminding me of

"The Ratings Game" episode of the George Bush Show:

http://www.ebolaworld.com/mainpage02.html

[LiberalFighter]

45. Here are some other interesting Harris polls

Their most recent.

Foreign Affairs Aiding Bush Job Rating
Rated most positively on terrorism
http://www.gallup.com/poll/releases/pr030905.asp

BUT!!! at the bottom
Do you think the Bush administration does – or does not – have a clear plan for handling the economy?
YES 43% NO 54% NO OPINION 3%

Do you think the Bush administration does – or does not – have a clear plan for handling the situation in Iraq?
YES 44% NO 54% NO OPINION 2%


Good ones too!

August 25, 2003 Ratings of President and Other Government Leaders Continue to Decline, But Most Are Still Positive
http://www.harrisinteractive.com/harris_poll/index.asp?PID=397

August 22, 2003 Administration’s Credibility on Reasons for Invading Iraq Still Strong But Declining
http://www.harrisinteractive.com/harris_poll/index.asp?PID=396

[Arugula Latte]

46. Chris Matthews' head will implode

He's already done, oh, I don't know, about A DOZEN shows on how Bush can't be beaten. :eyes: His man-love for W's jump-suited crotch is blinding him to reality.

[NNN0LHI]

47. What head will explode? The one with his brain or the one on...

...on his shoulders?

Don

[WillyT]

49. LOL !!! --- Good One !

:thumbsup: :hippie: :thumbsup:

[fizzana]

50. About 2% of the U.S. population have benefited directly from

the Bush Presidency which means that about 27% of the population are far too stupid for their own good.

[SOS]

51. Expect CNNFOXMSRNC

to report that his "approval" rating is still a sky-high 52%.
The 29% re-elect number will be locked away with Cheney's energy documents.

[Rebellious Republican]

52. Now is we could only see more polls showing this trend!

Here's a little kick, for those just wiping the sleep out their eyes, to see.

:donut:

:kick:

On edit: Need to wipe the sleep out of my eyes, title should read "Now if"