Newsweek: King Karl -by Fineman and Isokoff

[Rose Siding]

Feb. 21 issue - Saudis thrive in the heat, but not the Washington kind. In July 2003, they were looking for protective cover. A congressional panel had issued a report on the roots of the 9/11 attacks, in which 15 of the 19 perpetrators were Saudis. The report contained 28 superclassified pages that described evidence of possible Saudi funding for two of the hijackers. In reaction, the Saudis descended on the capital, eager to dispute the charges and reassure George W. Bush and his administration. Prince Saud al-Faisal sat down with the president, Vice President Dick Cheney and Secretary of State Colin Powell. Later that same day, the prince met with national-security adviser Condi Rice.

But there was a third White House base to touch—up a narrow flight of stairs on the second floor of the West Wing. On July 29, according to lobbying records reviewed by NEWSWEEK, the Saudis' leading Washington fixer, Adel Al-Jubeir, met with Karl Rove to, among other things, "give a status briefing on the Kingdom's reform efforts and war against terrorism." The sit-down was arranged by former Texas congressman Tom Loeffler, an elite fund-raiser for Bush's campaigns who had been hired as a lobbyist for the Saudis. The meeting was Al-Jubeir's second with Rove; the first was three months after 9/11. A source close to the Saudis insisted that the sessions were a mere "courtesy." But since Rove's domain was politics—not foreign policy—why arrange them at all? "Isn't it obvious?" the source replied........

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6959814/site/newsweek/

[Kimber Scott]

1. Isn't it obvious, Rove's the real president... the man behind the curtain?

How I sit here and read this shit night after night, I just don't know. I hate these people. I really do. Why is this happening to our country?

[rodeodance]

3. I more despise him/them-who are so callous will our lives

[rodeodance]

2. ",,,,and retire to Texas before the heat sets in" I fear Bush will never

personally have to "pay" for any wrongdoing!!

.......Democrats last week were crying foul. As he handed the baton to Dr. Howard Dean, outgoing party chairman Terry McAuliffe declared that Rove's new role proved that "Bush cares more about political positioning than honest policy discussion." But, in a way, the Democrats were missing the point. Rove constructed Bush's career as a marriage of policy and politics, playing down Bush's manor-born bio in favor of "game-changing" ideological agendas designed to bring breakthrough electoral success. It's worked so far.

But why the Rove move now? Bush is a loyalist, but also a former baseball exec who values new blood in the lineup. He can satisfy both impulses by shifting trusted players into different roles. Rove has his own reasons. A brilliant autodidact who lacks a college degree, he has always been eager to prove publicly that he is more than a political consultant. More important, Rove has to know that his most crucial "campaign" still lies ahead in his 32-year partnership with Bush. Rove has to help him avoid the usual second-term presidential morass—not to mention another attack on the homeland. He has to help him build a lasting legacy—and retire to Texas before the heat sets in.

[fooj]

4. Why is Karl Rove meddling in our countries foriegn policies?

Was he voted into office? Was he given any authority by the people of this country? Creating his own office in the WH is bad enough. They are deceptive, manipulative, thieving monsters who have no business in the people's house. We have the truth. Truth is our most powerful weapon. Without truth, they are POWERLESS!

[Rose Siding]

5. Try it like this: The sit-down was arranged by former Arkansas congressman

"X", an elite fund-raiser for Clinton's campaigns who had been hired as a lobbyist for the Chinese....

A stand-alone headline maybe? A MONTH'S worth of cable news topics? Years worth of investigations? o the times they are a-changin'

The sit-down was arranged by former Texas congressman Tom Loeffler, an elite fund-raiser for Bush's campaigns who had been hired as a lobbyist for the Saudis.

[GOPFighter]

6. -snicker-

Rove's new duties will help fix Bush's place in history.

Sorry Karl....
Georgie's place in history has already been etched in stone, and it ain't gonna be pretty. Of course, you will probably make it even worse in the coming four years, but that's okay. It just means you'll also be vilified for centuries just like your boss.

The amazing thing about this Administration is that they think they are truly great. Mt. Rushmore material. And yet the half of America and the rest of the world knows just how shallow and ignorant and morally bankrupt these people and their supporters are. Silly asses.

[dbeach]

7. Rover the chikenhawk and grandson of a nazi death merchant.

Shine some light on this agent of darkness...
he reminds me of Brainiac or Lex Luther from ole Superman comics..but I think he is more insidious..

"Karl Rove attended 6 colleges without ever getting a degree, He later went on to teach graduate students.
Mr Rove was one of the biggest holders of Enron stock among White House staffers, with between $100,000 and $250,000 worth of shares when he was appointed. The White House has acknowledged that Mr Rove took part in the secret meetings that helped shape the Bush government’s energy policy, while he still held Enron shares and stock in other energy companies"
http://www.newshounds.us/2004/08/27/rove_fox_the_swift_boats.php


"Could this be the Nazi connection in the Bush Bunch?
More about Karl Rove. According to this Web site, Karl Rove is a dual citizen of the United States and Germany and is, in fact, the grandson of Karl Heinz Roverer, the gauleiter of Mecklenburg, who was also a partner and senior engineer of Roverer Sud-Deutche Ingenieurb¸ AG. They built Birchenau, the concentration camp in Nazi Germany.

Ambassador Joseph Wilson has been turning up the heat in this situation. He revealed on Friday August 29 in a symposium in Washington the person in the Bush administration, who had leaked it out to the Washington Post that Wilson¥s wife is a CIA agent of 26 years. As a consequence of this leak, her entire team of overseas assets were liquidated.

The leaker, it turns out, was none other than the notorious Karl H. Rove, Bush¥s so-called White House advisor. Ambassador Wilson identified him as Karl Roverer, with the umlaut over the "o."

According to reliable sources, as well as our own Al Martin Raw.com investigation, Karl Rove is, in fact, the grandson of Karl Heinz Roverer, the gauleiter of Mecklenburg, who was also a partner and senior engineer of Roverer Sud-Deutche Ingenieurb¸ro AG. They built Birchenau, the concentration camp in Nazi Germany. "
http://www.wiolawapress.com/karl.htm

[NVMojo]

10. Read "Bush's Brain" if you haven't ...this man is a genius at manipulation

and developing false impressions and perceptions in the public eye.

Interestingly, he also spent a portion of his life in Reno and still has a sister and a brother here. The brother owns a huge cement contracting company that does really well with state contracts and local government contracts. Their mother committed suicide in Reno.

[kaitykaity]

11. His name was Roever, an umlaut over the "o"

A man named Karl Roever was the Gauleiter of Oldenburg, not Mecklenburg.

Nothing so far confirming this is Rove's grandfather, though.

http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/imt/tgmwc/tgmwc-20/tgmwc-20-190-11.shtml

Q. Was there not, in fact, such a close relationship between the State Police and the Kreisleitung that, in practice, the Kreisleiter could at any time arbitrarily order the arrest of political opponents?

A. That would have been a good thing. When I repeatedly suggested that to the Gauleiter, at the time Karl Roever, I was told that these were measures of the State which did not concern us as political leaders.


http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.geocities.com/~orion47/NSDAP/Gauleiter_R-Z.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3DOldenburg%2BGauleiter%26hl%3Den%26lr%3Dlang_en%26sa%3DG

ROEVER, Karl
(1889 - 1942)
Gau leader/realm governor/Prime Minister/M.d.R.:
Fount: 12. 02. 1889 in Lemwerder/Oldenburg
Died: 15. 05. 1942, supposedly OF heart and lung problem (lake notes below for his actual fate)
NSDAP No.: 10,545 (Joined 1923; left after Munich putsch; rejoined 13.07.1925)
Assignments:
Representative of the realm defense commissioner for the military district XI (gau Weser Ems): 22.09.1939 -
the staedtbaulichen measures for Oldenburg assigns (by leader decree): 1.02.1939 -
Realm governor of Oldenburg and Bremen: 5.05.1933 - 15.05.1942.
Prime Minister of the Free State Oldenburg: 16.09.1932 (by Hoeffkes, Hitler's political generals ; Stockhorst's of 5000 heads of gives 16.06.1932) -
Realm tag delegate for the constituency 14 (Weser Ems): 14.09.1930 - 15.05.1942.
Gau leader gau Weser Ems: 1. Oct. 1928 - 15. May 1942.
Elected as delegates in the Oldenburgi federal state parliament: 05.1928.
District leader of the NSDAP: 1926 -
Reentered NSDAP.: 13.07.1925 -
Member of the Oldenburgi federal state parliament (NSDAP parliamentary group): 05.1924 -
Joined NSDAP, 1923; during the time OF the ban on party activities, served as member and chairman of the local's group Oldenburg of the "Voelkisch social block" (VSB).
World was I service & after:
Employed as independent more manufacturer in Oldenburg after WW I. Worked with various voelkish groups.
Assigned ton of propaganda department of the highest army command: 01.1916 - 9.11.1918
Promoted NCO: 1916.
Duck-talk service as war kriegsfreiwilliger (was more volunteer), assigned ton infantry regiment 233: 08.1914 - 01.1916.
Manufacturer in Oldenburg: 1914.
Trained into sales with A Bremen firm, then employed in A factory, Cameroons (Ger.: Cameroon), from 1911 tons of 1913.
Notes:
" on the night OF May 13, 1942, Roever starting LED the party hierarchy when he announced that he which going ton lake the leaders on the NEXT day and then proceed tons meet Winston Churchill, in order ton make peace. Coming virtually on the roofridge anniversary OF Rudolf Hess ' flight tons of Scotland, the more matt which immediately brought tons of Martin Bormann's attention. At SS physician diagnosed the read steam turbine and gas turbine system OF syphilis in Roever, and he which rushed tons on isolated AREA. Two agents < George Joel, Prime Minister OF Oldenburg and the staff leaders OF the Roever's gau line > were sent by boron man ton examine Roever, and they reported on May 15 that the crimps one had succumbed tons heart failures. The whole more matte which hushed UP and soon forgotten into the course OF the was. "
(Excerpted from Charles Hamilton's Leaders and Personalities OF the Third realm , R. James Bender Publishing, 1984; story thus found in Karl Hoeffkes, Hitler's political generals , grave blank publishing house, 1986/1997)
Roever which then given A state funeral into the Mosaic resound (mosaic hall) OF the Reichskanzlei in Berlin on 22.05.1942. He which buried into the new cemetery, Oldenburg on 23.05.1942.
Decorations & Awards:
Golden party badge
Service honors of the NSDAP

[kaitykaity]

12. Rove is Freaking ADOPTED.

http://www.nndb.com/people/353/000022287/

AKA Karl Christian Rove

Born: 25-Dec-1950
Birthplace: Denver, CO

Gender: Male
Religion: Anglican/Episcopalian
Ethnicity: White
Sexual orientation: Straight
Occupation: Government

Level of fame: Somewhat
Executive summary: Turd Blossom

Learned at 19 that his father had adopted him at age 2.

[dbeach]

13. THANX for info..

hard to find any facts ...maybe this is also disinfo..err maybe..

rove is briiliant at what he does..
kinda thought its quite a coincidence that bush grandfather prescott was ordered by congress to stop trading with germany and then when you match in the rove story ..sure does become very reich like.. so i give rove a pass on the grandfather stuff for now.. Thanx again and I will try to recheck about mr. rove

[kaitykaity]

15. Let us know what you find.

Louis Rove lived in Palm Springs California before
he died in June of 2004 at age 74(?).

Louis Rove is mentioned in the obituary of a guy
named Van Hey as an in-law. This person had family
in Holland. That's the only European connection I
could find. If it's there, it's been scrubbed real
good.

I didn't get a chance to search for birth records
or any other public records, but that's where I'd
go next.

[dbeach]

17. Al Martin is usually reliable..

I could not find any email address for him or wiola
still one huge story that prescott bush dealt with the nazis in
WW II and specifically with fritzie thyulsen who was an industrialist and financed dolf..through some wall st. firms.."American dynasty " lays out a nice history of family bush and their war profiteering back to sam bush

[kaitykaity]

20. Oh, yeah. Kevin Phillips did a pretty good job on that one.

The Bush/Nazi connection is well documented.

I don't even have trouble believing Poppy was in Paris
before the 1980 election talking to Iran telling them
"don't you release those hostages now."

I also don't have trouble believing that Poppy had something
to do with the JFK assassination -- CIA, Northwords, all
of that.

I guess Randi's rubbing off on me. I want to see the
original documents, dammit.

:evilgrin:

[yardwork]

8. Very interesting that all this is starting to come out

now that the election is over. Very interesting.

[NVMojo]

9. when, oh when, are the arteries going to clog up on this beast?

[98geoduck]

14. Rove is a sociopath with ill intent. He Scares me the most.

[oasis]

16. Fineman and Isikoff are both Rove lackeys paid to build up the Rove

myth and throw us off the trail. "The great and powerful Karl Rove".

The article is essentially a puff piece when you consider all of the diabolical shit that Rove has been involved in.

When will a real journalist come forward and blow the cover off of the Bush gang?

[Spiffarino]

18. Karl Rove, turdjuggler

Keep it moving, Turdblossom!

[applegrove]

19. Novak said yesterday that Rove demanded the promotion. n/t