Separating the Gannons from the Guckerts (Keith Olbermann)

[moobu2]

"NEW YORK - So, the artist formerly known as Jeff Gannon is considering suing everybody.

Well, this will separate the Gannons from the Guckerts.

Gannon told Newsweek that he is contemplating “suing liberal interest groups, bloggers, and others,” for what he termed “political assassination.” Don’t see that in the statutes anywhere.

He is presumably pondering some sort of libel action, or perhaps he harbors some vague hope of proving invasion of privacy. This would, of course, require that what’s been said about him isn’t true (though he hasn’t denied it), and was maliciously published or broadcast by people who knew it wasn’t true or made no effort to confirm or refute it. Of course, he had told Editor & Publisher last week that he would no longer talk to the media, then followed that up five days later by a complaint to the same magazine that nobody was trying to contact him (and in the same interview denied he was giving an interview with CNN, an interview which he taped about an hour later)."

MUCH MORE HERE

[liberal43110]

1. He's a moron, let's face it

The poor boy isn't very smart. And he spouts off crap all the time. The trouble with suing for libel is that THE TRUTH is a successful defense.

[pnorman]

2. "THE TRUTH is a successful defense."

From what I can gather, that isn't necessarily the case in England, but it most certainly is so here. The trouble is that if it's a mammoth corporation, or someone with a Deep-Pockets Big Daddy behind him, there's a legal maneuver called S.L.A.P.P. (http://www.nolo.com/definition.cfm/Term/1264241E-6BCC-41DE-88FB065B11543680/alpha/S/) Even if the defendant is "cleared", he's subjected to a long, costly, and MESSY experience. And his potential supporters would be TERRORIZED. The process is no doubt listed under IRS Deductions as "legal expenses". Just a thought.

pnorman

[chookie]

4. He's thug smart

He THINKS he's smarter than everybody. He thinks everyone is stupid.

He, like Bush and Cheney et al, think that because they have gotten away with lies and double life in the past, that it always will be so.

This is a "reporter" who has literally had everything he's ever written handed to him, and is so ignorant of the methods of professional journalism that he had not a clue how anyone would easily be able to check up on him.

Talk about frivolous lawsuits. It would be one thing if someone had taken photos of him in secret, or tricked him -- but the fact is, he posed for filthy, disgusting obscene photos of himself in order to solicit sex clients, which were rather easily traced. Using lawful means to discover the truth about someone, especially someone who DARED people investigators to "bring it on!" is not illegal. His lawsuit will be laughed out of court. Given that he was "a man of the town", it seems silly for him to cry about his privacy.

He should have taken his lawyer's advice last week and shut up and at least just wait till the heat died down -- I'm sure one of his buddies would have helped him out. But he is so recklessly arrogant and a bully that he is going ahead with this "counter attack," which is doomed to bring him only further humiliation.

Mr "Gannon" says he has been getting threats from the left, but I find that hard to believe -- what he does have much to fear from are the people who elevated him, and whom he could embarass immensely, perhaps even ruin their career, by staying in the public eye and drawing so much attention. They are not going to like it that he is behaving so recklessly when THEIR asses are on the line. If he turns up dead in a motel room with a suicide note saying he was hounded into suicide by humiliation by the left, and financial problems, who would question it? I take no pleasure in assessing the danger Mr "Gannon" is possibly in by shooting his mouth off. He is showing very very poor judgement at this point.

But step back a bit, and it is clear why he thinks he can get away with this -- in spite of his knee-jerk loyalty to Bush and the radical right agenda, I think he knows in his reptilian brain that Bush has been lying all along, and gets away with all his lies just by acting all the bolder -- so "Gannon" is going to try his luck at the same game.

[drm604]

18. As far as the threats go...

While it's entirely possible that a small number of unstable leftists may have threatened him, I think there's another, more insidious possibility. He may, in fact, believe that he's being threatened by the left when in fact it's his own people, posing as the left. Then, if he's murdered, they can accuse "the left" and if he "suicides" they can claim that "the left" drove him to it.

[tavalon]

26. Bingo

You win! BTW, welcome to DU.

[drm604]

45. It's not hard to deduce...

But what do I win! :)

[tavalon]

51. A lifetime membership

to the reality based community! ;)

[CanOfWhoopAss]

21. Bingo!

You've pretty muched boxed and gift wrapped their bullsh!t to hand back to them. Some of the right is still defending him. I can't believe they haven't turned and devoured him by now. Given their tendency to eat their own offspring.

[MSgt213]

3. The funny thing is these guys know they are doing wrong yet they have th

weakest defenses to their actions. It makes you think they are really stupid or they think the rest of us are really stupid. OK, so the MSM is really stupid and the idiots that support Bush to their own detriment are really stupid. But I guess they didn't count of the rest of us.

[chookie]

7. Not just MSM and Bush SUPPORTERS, but Bush himself

It's one of the "mysteries" of the current age that these people idolize and idealize Bush, see him as Perfected Man, incapable of error -- while all the while knowing Bush lies about everything, and themselves act as part of the generation of "spin", which they must create in order to make plausible (barely) explanations to the wicked, snarky stuff Bush is dedicated to carrying out.

I'm sure Mr "Gannon" sees his hero, His Chimperial Majesty, going from failure to failure, and having to change his explanation for things as he is demonstrated time and again to have deceived or to have miscalculated -- that he truly believes that this is the way of the world, and that he is going to act boldly and recklessly as Bush does when he is caught out.

Only difference between Bush and "Gannon" is that one gets caught with his pants down metaphorically, whereas the other one was caught with his pants down literally.

Bush is in a tricky position. He can't defend "Gannon" as the Coulters and Kurtz and O'Reillys would want, as it would infuriate those religious moral watchdogs who are not totally under the influence of authoritarianism -- because the hard Christian right, at least an important segment of them, feel strongly that they have the power to hold His Chimperial Majesty's feet to the fire, to fulfil his promises to them about "restoring" "godly Judeo-Christian"law to the US. Nor can he afford to denounce "Gannon" -- because he's one of "them" (flying monkey loyalists), and demouncing him, however correct it would be, is yielding a micrometer to his critics -- don't think we'll see that anytime soon, no matter HOW absurd things get!!

[EC]

5. Why political assassination if he's a "journalist and not

a political operative?

[manxkat]

19. excellent point -- a freudian slip -- an admission to being a

political operative. Gannon/Guckert seems to be losing it.... kinda reminds me of Sean Penn's character in The Falcon and the Snowman.

[EVDebs]

6. For a neocon he's a real fart smeller, Oops, I mean smart feller !

Isn't this supposed to be the Clinton defense after all ? These neocons get hoisted on their own petards and then think they can squash freedom of speech ? They do domestic military psy-ops and Operation Mockingbird propaganda in order to squash dissent and prevent policy reviews ... Who do they think they're foolin' ?

BTW, I'm thinking the little twit should try to file a class action on behalf of all disgraced neocons. Not only will it be laughed out of court but no fellow neocon would risk lowering themselves further, with the exception of Ann Coulter.

[McCamy Taylor]

8. Oh please Lord, let him find a lawyer dumb enough to take this case!

:headbang:

[understandinglife]

9. Indeed!! Keep it on the front burner Jeffie, please: for our sake & YOURS.

As I've posted elsewhere, the gagman probably has a clue about one essential survival factoid -- he better stay as visible as he possibly can.

Likely the only thing keeping him from 'suicide.'

And, that works well for all of us who need to understand just how this fake dude got to spend 2+ years in the West Wing of the White House.


Peace.


BE THE BU$H OPPOSITION;24/7

[jdj]

10. I'm a tell ya.

All the people out there with pics of this dick are salivating at the bit for this one.

They are going through all their photos and files and c/ds and getting ready to CASH IN. If he thinks he's having a hard time now, just wait til he goes legal with this, he'll be on the front page of the enquirer every other day. There's no way in hell the right will let him sue. Because I'm sure in some of those self-groping photos, if you squint, you can see McClellan's head in the background, or Rove's shoes beside the bed. They need to bury this, not excavate it.

[MADem]

11. He had better STAND BY....

Because if he does anything other than cooperate with Fitzgerald, you know he will end up in front of a bus, that his former satisfied customers will come out of the woodwork, that the waters will be so muddied that he will never be able to lift himself from the muck, that he will be finished. Destroyed.

His best bet is to sing like hell to Fitzgerald, make a video deposition or ten, start writing a tell-all book, and make sure the book is so damn salacious (start checking out those credit card receipts, those photo albums, any evidence you have, JimmyJeff!) that he clears several million from it. He can then take the cash, change his name (yet again) and retire to private life.

It's his only hope.

If he tries to run with the big dogs, he will be torn to shreds. It's time for him to come in out of the cold, make his best deal, and get away alive. The fool has NO FRIENDS IN THE GOP...they do NOT want to know him. He is dead to them, he probably should work hard to stay alive to his friends and family, if he has a damn brain.

This isn't rocket science--all you have to do is go way back to '89, to another White House sex scandal, to see how it plays out. And it didn't work out too well for that gay guy, either....

[tavalon]

27. Right, er, write on all counts

except that he will have to leave the county, methinks.

[Hissyspit]

12. I emailed Keith...

and told him that Randi Rhodes tried repeatedly to get Guckert to come on the show after she asked him or he asked to be on, but that he kept refusing to provide a resume. I am remembering that correctly, right?

I also told Keith that we would be co-defendants! :)

[queeg]

13. Bring on the Lawsuit --PLEASE!!!

I can guarantee that there are a MILLION lawyers in this country who would LOVE to start handing out subpoenas for depositions of people in the White House who are perpetuating this scandal. Without the independent prosecutor law anymore, this is going to be the way to take down this White House. I just want some pain there since there is no Prosecutor who will touch them to hand out a few indictments, make them PAY for the priviledge of being untouchable.

[K8-EEE]

14. God I Love Olberman!!

Old-school investigative journalist and a sense of humor too...and he's CUTE!

[kris10ep]

23. I second that notion

"Take a number, Scooter."

He sure knows how to liven the mood. Which, by the way, is important in dealing with this crap. This is serious stuff, but being too serious all the time can make you go crazy when it comes to fighting the neocons and the right...oops, I mean wrong.

[Left Brain]

43. ahhhh Kate -

that's Olbermann with TWO "n"s. Good germanic name, one he didn't feel the need to hide with a pseudo. Gotta love KO!

[bajamary]

15. Great article

Obermann is absolutely great. Thanks for this post.

[tavalon]

28. BTW

Is this your ribbon? I've wanted to do something just like this. Good on ya!

[bajamary]

52. Yep, I designed it

Thanks tavalon,

Yes, I designed the black ribbon and another one, which is blue, that says:

Pray for Peace
Work for Justice

They're available on my website.

[Kimber Scott]

16. The play "the poor persecuted gay prostitute" line isn't going over too

well, is it?

"Oh, Mr. Rove! It's not woooorrrkking! Can you think of something else for me to say? Maybe, we can blame it on the Clintons?" Jeff Gannon guckerts.

"Calm down, boy. Come here. Rub my head. Help me think." says Karl Rove.

"Which head, Mr. Rove?"

[Nothing Without Hope]

17. "Gannon" has to talk about suing and libel - he's playing to the people

who are defending him or who might still believe him. It's what an innocent man would say. They would be surprised if this manly-man tough guy just turned tail and never talked about how he's going to make his enemies pay.

I wouldn't be surprised to hear of his upcoming tragic "suicide," along with heartrending stories -- maybe a suicide note, surely authentic? -- about how those evil liberal bloggers drove him to it. The blivet** administration will make use of him any way they can, and if he becomes too dangerous as a loose "Gannon," they will find another way to get some mileage out of him.

[upperleftedge]

20. Sorry to be a bit off topic but..

Hunter S. Thompson killed himself. He taught me what it was about.

Damnit!

billy

[cinci_democrat]

25. Hunter S. Thompson R.I.P.

God...I can't believe it. How sad. I picked up "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas" thirty years ago and was hooked. We'll miss you Hunter. Sorry billy.

[bklyncowgirl]

22. If you put pornographic pictures of yourself on the Internet...

how the hell can you claim invasion of privacy?

JimmyJeff was living a double life. He was not terribly discrete about it either. Putting advertising for sexual services up on the Internet is essentially the same as running a print ad in a skin rag or plastering yourself in all your glory on a damn billboard.

The fact that he was found out by ordinary people using for the most part sources that are available free to the general public makes it clear that he's not terribly bright.

This whole thing is reading like some sort of caper novel by someone like Elmore Leonard or Carl Hiaasen in which the hustler becomes the hustled and a group of thoroughly nasty individuals attempt to do each other in in the most vile possible ways. The only thing is that even the most inventive writer would have a hard time making this stuff up.

[BRLIB]

24. Interesting title, "Separating the Gannons from the Guckerts"

Is the crow bar included?

[ItsTheMediaStupid]

32. Old joke, but appropriate

I almost spit on my keyboard!

[UL_Approved]

29. Well, Keith does get at the points

I just wonder if this will get through the swarm of news that is available to feed the American public. After all, the election fraud story got buried. I just hope that this is pursued.

[riverwalker]

30. email accounts

Found this at www.Americablog.org. Couldn't these email accounts be sopeonaed as part of Plame investigation?? Didn't he also use usmcpt at his prostitution sites and we thought it meant "marine corp part time"?
From the blog:

there's a yahoo account called "JeffGannon" that was created in 99....

http://profiles.yahoo.com/jeffgannon



http://profiles.yahoo.com/usmcpt

http://profiles.yahoo.com/bulldogdc

http://profiles.yahoo.com/bulldogphilly

http://profiles.yahoo.com/jeffgannon

[fob]

42. The PT stands for "Personal Trainer", it's right there on that site

and when jimjeff means "personal" he MEANS PERSONAL

[rucky]

31. Those darn trial lawyers and their frivilous lawsuits.

Republicans should be deeply troubled by this.

[EC]

33. Bring it on...yeah, let's get him under oath....what can he

possibley say to HELP his case? And won't we be able to ask questions the WHITE HOUSE doesn't want answered?

[ContraBass Black]

34. Ha ha ha ha!

:cry: Sorry. I'm having an absurdity overload.

[lasttrip]

35. "Take a number, Scooter." lmao. nt

:7

[crispini]

36. KO hits one out of the park.

Although he does mention Wolf Blitzer... who... changed his name from "Leslie" :evilgrin:

[AtTheEndOfTheDay]

48. I noticed that too

"I don’t think I’ve suffered professionally (and neither has Christiane Amanpour, Greta Van Susteren, Wolf Blitzer, or Rush Limbaugh)." KO discussing name changing because of difficult pronunciation.

[Mr. Sinister]

37. What kind of person is still a prostitute in their 40's??!

I mean even if you wanted some big mature hunk of
beef, the guy is pushing 50. Who was paying $200 an
hour for his tired old butt? The whole episode is just
so mind-boggling -- every day of the Bush regime just
feels like your further and further down the rabbit
hole.

[Hoping4Change]

39. You haven't read his websites. He is the one who pokes repukes.

Obvisiously his clients like authority figures ie age, military, trainer you get the picture.

[Mr. Sinister]

41. Living in San Francisco I find there is not a dearth

of older men who spend time in the gym who are willing to 'poke' other men. It seems strange that one would pay for that service. But I can't say what it's like to live in the parallel universe of repressed Republican sexual mores. But I think the other respondent to my post may be onto something. The sex-for-hire is not a last resort; it is a desired aspect of the transaction. And it comes down
probably to power, control, manipulation and probably an ocean of
denial. It would all be pretty tedious and banal if it wasn't for
the current context and situation. I pray it brings all these lunatics down.

[Hoping4Change]

49. "Mr Sinister" is a great name! LOL. Your comment

"what its like to live in the parallel universe of repressed Repub sexual mores" is very interesting. What is the mindset? And how integral is the sex for hire aspect?

I don't know if you read the thread below about the Velvet Texas Mafia but if you haven't its a fascinating read.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=103&topic_id=107601&mesg_id=107601

[Mr. Sinister]

50. Hey Thanks I'll check it out.

My handle works better if you know a little latin
or at least etymology. Thanks again H4C.

[Nothing Without Hope]

40. I believe he is an agent and the prostitution is for gathering

personal intel and building blackmail files for coercing people to support the administration's policies. This isn't the first time a gay prostitution ring has been found associated with the upper reaches of the White House -- there was a huge scandal in 1989 in the Reagan/Bush the First WH. Guess what - that administration suppressed the investigation. Setting up prostitution and pedophilia -- anything that the clients don't want to become public, the more shameful to them the better -- for blackmail has a long history. I think both Bush administrations have been in it up to their eyebrows.

I suspect the demonization of gays, besides being such a useful tool for dividing the country and rallying the fundies, has the fringe benefit of making blackmail of closeted influential people --Congressmen, judges, military leaders, journalists, church leaders, many others -- that much easier.

I have a thread on all of this here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1609452

As for Guckert's being old for a prostitute, he's a top. His customers presumably enjoy fantasizing being dominated by a powerful, authoritative, physically tough military type -- his ads emphasize that he is an ex-marine. His age is not a problem, in fact it probably is an advantage.

[LiberalinNC]

38. How can he sue for political assassination, when he's not a politician?

Go ahead and sue, the only one that's going to come out looking back, besides W and his cronies, is yourself, Gannon/Guckett! And then W and his cronies will lie and say they don't know you or how you got the press credentials.

[madmark]

44. FYI Microsoft has done something to site such that I can't access in fire

fox but i can in explorer. What dicks. This is how they impose their momopoly everytime: I happened to me with Windows killing my DR-Dos word processor. It happened with Word not being able to open WP or Star Office. It happened when MS Frontpage extensions couldn't be opened with Netscape . . .

[atwitsend]

46. The Gay-Gate Whore Affair!

The Gay-Gate Whore Affair!

Male whore scandal hits White House. Kingpin stayed upstairs with Bush. CBS White House boss John Roberts implicated. Escort Service used by U.S. House and Senate members and Federal Reserve Bank Board. More details blocked by U.S.holiday, Presidents Day. More coming soon
http://www.cloakanddagger.ca/




How fitting..if you don't know who the guys are at cloak and dagger.. will give you a hint. http://www.libertythink.com/2004_04_11_archives.html

[LocalGuy]

47. Here's my outrage

Leonard Pitts, a columnist from the Miami Herald, had this column appear today in my local paper. <http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/living/columnists/leonard_pitts/10929316.htm?1c>

He's asking where's our outrage. So here's mine in a letter to my Congressman, Robert Andrews, 1st District-New Jersey. ( Sorry for being off-topic a little bit)


Good Day Congressman Andrews:
Each day I become more amazed at the new levels of hypocrisy the Bush Administration reaches. Now there is Mr. Jeff Gannon/Guckert, posing as a WH reporter, and apparently hiding his sordid past. I do not care about his male prostitute activities, although the irony is palpable.
I do take offense at him using the name US Marine Corp Part Time, for some of his web solicitations. Members of my family, including a nephew in the USMC right now in Indonesia, and other relatives and friends that have served the Corps and their country with the utmost dignity & respect. For Gannon/Guckert & Talon News/GOPUSA to throw dirt on our military like that is outrageous.

I also take exception to this Administrations apparent politicizing of the Secret Service vetting process. How does someone with a fake name get credentials? The Secret Service must remain independent so it can protect & guard the President and others. Have we learned no lessons at all from 9/11 regarding letting our guard down? It does not appear so to me. If I tried to get into your Congressional office with a fake name, I doubt I'd get very far, and you've known me a long time.

Please use the full force of your office to open an investigation in Mr. Bush's fake newsmen, and hired flacks.
Please do it soon for aI fear I'm becoming "divorced from reality."

[katty]

53. bring it on gannon-just what bush doesn't need

right now a 24/7 gannon/gukert LawsuitWatch. when is karl going to muzzle this guy? he's a dead man walking